- New frames that ride like old Konas?
TurnerGuyPosted 4 years ago
Replied to your email, it’s only fair I give first refusal to the OP now he has expressed an interest in your frames, let me know though if it doesn’t happen
I was in touch with Joe Murray last year too and got sent replacement decals for my old Voodoo, had a good conversation about the old bikes, sent him some pics of it in various disguises, really good friendly chatty bloke, main thing that’s stopped me getting disc tabs fitted and re sprayed is loosing the “hand built in USA” and “designed by Joe Murray” stickers
Mine is a 1995/6 model frame number 37, was one of the first imported to UK by sShockwave in Nottingham, went in for an Orange Clockwork, got talked into the Voodoo, somehow don’t think I’d still be riding the 1″ headset Clockwork today had I not been persuaded otherwise
Cheers pebbles. I’m hoping for the Bizango. Thank you for letting me know 🙂
Ive noticed that the more hardcore my bikes have become the less I enjoy riding them. A colleague gave me some cross tyres that I put on my old knackered commuter as it’s my only working bike out of the two. Had loads of fun and the bike was tons more responsive. Got me thinking about why and what I do really needs 140mm of travel and box section seat stays…… I’m not slow by any means but at the same time I’m not Josh Bender either. I just ride on the South Downs and explore really.
I just didn’t get on with the Soul. I’m still gutted that I don’t. Got it resprayed and everything 🙁Posted 4 years ago
iain – what model and size is your current Voodoo.? I’ve got one of the first run of Taiwanese Erzulies, bought sight unseen..
I was a bit disappointed when it wasn’t one of the US made frames from the description
I’m quite happy to run v-brakes and might be interested if you’re thinking of moving yours on..Posted 4 years ago
Yeah sorry was my 21st birthday present and first ‘proper’ mtbPosted 4 years ago
Been all over the place on that bike built it up and rebuilt it so many times and its seen evolution from cantis and rigid forks to aheadsets, various suspension forks, Vees and front cable disks
It’s only the Hoodoo so was pretty much the base model at the time, pretty much equivalent to a Cindercone but still one of best bikes I’ve ridenGunzMember
Oh, go on then (I have no advice for the OP by the way).
’97 Hei Hei, now with Rebas, Middleburn cranks, Hope Race, Hope Pros on Stans and Thompson/Easton finishing kit.
’93 Kilauea now used as general dogsbody.
Nice Explosif by the way PP, I think it must have been you I was chatting to at the 2012 BBB.Posted 4 years agodukeduvetSubscriber
I ride a Cotic Soul and also a ’97 Kona Kilauea.
The Kona feels faster on more xc type stuff in that the back end is a bit more direct but still compliant where as I find the Cotic a bit too flexy. The Soul is a bit more sluggish uphill aswell. I run 100mm Z1’s and 120mm Rebas on the Soul but overall the handling is very similar.
However discs on the Soul make a massive difference and if I ride Glentress then the Kona feels a bit out of its depth. The extra compliance of the Soul really helps there.
My advice if you don’t like the Soul would be restore an old Kona from 96-99, 100mm fork and discs added.
Wozza and alpha your bikes look the business.
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Here’s my, probably not so posh, but still very enjoyable to ride, 97 FireMtn… with a P2 fork (Only DB, but AH steerer, with a disc mount), I acquired it almost two years ago now to use as my winter SS machine, due mostly to my memories of of my old fire mountain, it’s done me proud.
19″ frame, Short stem, Wide High rise bars, 2.3″ front tyre, SS, it’s every bit as good as I remember my old Fire mountain being in ~1995…
Except it is of course almost completely different that bike which was: 17″ frame, Canti brakes (later Vs), 3×7 speed (gripshift/STX, Mmmmm) had a threaded fork and Quill stem (110mm “Velocity”? I think) with flat narrow bars and it all rolled about on crappy 1.9″ tyres…
So apart from being completely different to the bike I remember, it’s exactly the same!
I still need to sort a rear disc for it, not sure if I fancy having it re-welded with a mount, getting Sliders or Horizontal Dropout’s put in or trying to just bodge an A2Z disc mount or some carbon and spoons, but it needs doing somehow really.Posted 4 years agowoodsmanMember
If you want it to ride like the Kona but away better go for a 100mm steel hard tail frame. Any more travel and it’ll be just like your soul.
Enigma, 26″ are long like the Kona, classic geo but 100mm up front and disc of course. Quick on the ST. A million times better than the Kona ever was to be honest – I’ve got both and more…Posted 4 years ago
Here’s another before and after of some late 90’s skinny steel. Disc mount, cable guides swapped for hydro guides, canti bosses removed, respray with fork done to match.
cookeaa: Have a look at eccentric BBs, You might find something 2nd hand. I got lucky finding a Phil Wood one s/h. I thought about swapping the dropouts, but the work on the frame was already getting pricey, and it would have been a shame to loose the dinky Ritchey dropouts.
Dead happy with it, great to get back to razor sharp steering, and really enjoying it SS.Posted 4 years ago
Do the uni-crown style seat stays create a less compliant ride? I would imagine they do, I remember my old P7 feeling much less ‘zingy’ than my splatterpaint 89 Explosif – which incidentally, has to be the vintage to look for with old Kona’s?! Tange prestige, with Switchblade forks, it was a lovely bike.Posted 4 years ago
No idea at all how the ride would be affected if you kept everything else exactly the same and used a different seatstay junction. But I wouldn’t fancy my chances in a back to back test with a polysytrene block hiding the seatstay junction!
The advantage of the pierced seatstays was partly for strength, mostly for showing off framebuilding skillz and having a distinguishing feature.
As for compliance, on my first few goes on it I was amazed at how much it seemed to soak up bumps, and had me clicking up the gears and riding faster because it seemed to let me. I was coming from a Cannondale Beast of the East, so it wasn’t really a comparison with anything similar!Posted 4 years ago
Well, I’ll try and join in with the inspiration 😀 I don’t have any pics of my splatter Explosif 🙁 , however, this is my new project build to be put together over the Xmas break. I’m very eager to find out how it rides and feels 😀
And to give the Kinesis Virtue another shout… here’s Mrs Slack’s replacement for her stolen P7. She likes it 😀 So much so, that I have yet to have a spin on it.
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