'I hate STW. Bunch of middle class whiney cockbags.'

Racist!

(or something)

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What’s racist? Mr Khan?

Possibly. He doesn’t like Joosh.

Once upon a time, many years ago now I had a mate who went to St.Andrews to study Geo-Chemistry or something.
After he had been there a while I went up for a visit.loaded the clapped out Fiat Strada and headed up. Found what I thought to be the address but was clearly confused by all the MR2 and MK2 golf GTI littered about he place. (this might actually put a man on the era in question) . Had to ring him before I would believe it was student accommodation. Poncey and pretentious but willing totty as I recall. All doing Eng Lit or similar. Still, just jealous comparing that to where i was educated.

Because I question whether social classes can be simply “wished away” by waving a magic wand ?

but there is no social class it’s just a concept you want to believe in like father cristmas or jesus, a crutch to give you a place in existence.

free your mind

CM does this radical drop [lets ignore whether this bit is true of false for the moment] to about half suggest the end of class then ?

Probably not, and it might just be a temporary aberration or anomaly, but it might really be the start of the end of the ‘ruling classes’

CM I admire your faith CM but I am fairly sure dave aint aiming for a delcine in the influence of his class but we can but dream.

Tazzy
Social classes are economic or cultural arrangements of groups in society. Class is an essential object of analysis for sociologists, political scientists, economists, anthropologists and social historians. In the social sciences, social class is often discussed in terms of ‘social stratification’. In the modern Western context, stratification typically comprises three layers: upper class, middle class, and lower class. Each class may be further subdivided into smaller classes (e.g. occupational).

I agree it is man made but not made up.

but there is no social class it’s just a concept you want to believe in like father cristmas or jesus, a crutch to give you a place in existence.

It may be a social construct, but it does exists. If you don’t think so, try sending your kid to Eton or Harrow, or any of a list of other ‘class driven’ social environments

Class:
Got a boss? – working class
You’re a boss? – business class
Aristocrat? – parasite class

it’s just a concept you want to believe in

How did you manage to jump to that conclusion ? 😕

I don’t want to believe that climate change due to human activity is happening, but I believe that it is happening.

Maybe I can just “wish away” climate change with your magic wand tazzymtb ?

Then everything will be just fine, and all of the possible disasters associated with climate change will never happen. That’ll be nice.

I agree it is man made but not made up.

that is the same thing though junky because you are describing an abstract thought that only exists through a shared consensus.

CM I admire your faith CM but I am fairly sure dave aint aiming for a delcine in the influence of his class but we can but dream.

No, you are right, but it might just be beyond his control and that of the media, who may in fact be a more powerful influence. e.g. they way they managed to mock Prescott and lampoon the idea of him joining their exclusive club. In fact they managed to get his own people to hate him for it

don’t be silly ernie, one is a scientific cause and effect one is a definition that is applied in certain cultures. There are tribes around the world that if you tried to describe the concept of “class” to them would look at you in amazement and then carry on with their lives

don’t be silly ernie, one is a scientific cause and effect one is a definition that is applied in certain cultures.

That’s a social construct. It exists in the societies where we have constructed it. Surely you have met social barriers. You may be a victim of the construct whether you believe in it or not,

Are you stoned or just talking crap tazzy ? I really cant be arsed with a University tutorial discussion on what is real Blah blah blah.

CM I doubt anyone person could change it and I dont think dave will try. He may be genuine re meritocracy but as long as their class go to the best fee paying schools that should not alter much.

There are tribes around the world that if you tried to describe the concept of gravity, heliocentric world, evoloution ,DNA, space travel, 6 inch mountain bikes with sticky tyres to them would look at you in amazement and then carry on with their lives

Was there a point to that?

You may be a victim of the construct whether you believe in it or not

Ah, but you don’t have to see yourself as a victim, do you?

You may be a victim

nope, don’t think so, is like one of those “have you had an accident in the last 3 years that wasn’t your fault, quick put a claim in” kind of things?

right off to shave me legs nighty night

don’t be silly ernie

Well I not trying to pretend that social classes don’t exist.

And it’s you who’s claiming “it’s just a concept you want to believe in” despite no evidence to back that up.

Both rather silly comments imo.

junkyard you are a poor misguided fool and a sheep and deserve all the ills that you are willing to let world put upon you

You’ve not lost your uncanny ability to do google image searches Elfie.

Tell me, what’s the secret ?

Well, what it is, right; you choose a word, and you put it in Google Image Search, then see what it comes up with. 🙂

Takes years of training, mind. Not something an amateur or an idiot can cope with.

Nurse With Wound! 😯

You’re best off avoiding the market, then coming down Coppermill Lane, towards Spring Hill, really.

strip golf/associated tourism and the uni out of the economy and it’d be methil with a bigger beach…

When I first read that i thought ‘strip golf’ was like strip poker!

This thread=
p1 laff at eejits
p2 people talking about themselves. Didn’t bother reading it.
p3 class theorising.

Can we go back to page one please?

I want to hear tales from those who have seen the true horror and lived.

Bunch of … whiney cockbags

Not much evidence of that here.

Class:
Got a boss? – working class
You’re a boss? – business class
Aristocrat? – parasite class

I completely agree. I am completely in favour of personal enterprise and meritocracy. The parasite class are a huge drain on both the economic power and social wellbeing of our country.

buzz-lightyear – Member

You are working class if you work.

A similar pub discussion came to the conclusion that if you were genuinely working class then most likely you were not working but claiming benefit, and the phrases “chav and pikey” were probably more appropriate class descriptions.

If you’re on a monthly salary, you’re working class, you just may see a variation in the cost of footwear selected to wear while serving the master

tazzy thinks this sums it for me

And you think you’re so clever and classless and free,
But you’re still effing peasants as far as I can see,

I wish you no harm so at least one of us has some class

A similar pub discussion came to the conclusion that if you were genuinely working class then most likely you were not working but claiming benefit, and the phrases “chav and pikey” were probably more appropriate class descriptions.

That is probably the most moronic, offensive, narrow minded thing I’ve ever read on here and I’ve been here since 2004 and seen some real arseholes come and go.

Outstanding.

I’ve been here since 2004 and seen some real arseholes come and go

But unlike them you’re gonna go the distance?

😉

no, unlike them i’m not an arsehole*

*i am actually.

we all are, trailmonkey. we all are.

That is probably the most moronic, offensive, narrow minded thing I’ve ever read on here…..

Really ? I thought it was a fairly classic and rather mild comment on a forum frequented largely by pretentious and insecure middle-class punters.

Denigrating Tesco shoppers, fat people, those who live on council estates, people who own several tattoos but tragically no “cherished” number plates, TV viewers who watch light entertainment, etc, is a pretty bog standard activity for those who need to give themselves a self-congratulatory slap on the back so that they can feel better about themselves.

“I might only be middle-class, but hey, I’m so much better than the lower-classes”.

I just checked to see if there had been any reaction back on the St Andrews forum. View count on this thread is 1391. Busiest its been on there for years.

Quote of the day – ‘….They’re calling us toffs, I hope they don’t find out about me being in Polo club.’

http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~cycling/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=10

A similar pub discussion came to the conclusion that if you were genuinely working class then most likely you were not working

Nah, those people are middle class.

When I first read that i thought ‘strip golf’ was like strip poker!
I’m game if you are. See you down the links? 😉

I’m more interested to know if the organisers have now done something to repair the damage that the race caused to the trails at Blairadam?

is a pretty bog standard activity for those who need to give themselves a self-congratulatory slap on the back so that they can feel better about themselves.

“I might only be middle-class, but hey, I’m so much better than the lower-classes”.

Not everyone on here is a gnome owning Jerry and Margo fantasist Ernie.

Yes, threads like the Aintree one, the fattist ones and the ‘my Supermarket says a lot about me’ ones are good at exposing the sneering snobs on here, but for every poster delighted at displaying their own prejudice there are hundreds sitting there amazed that people are willing to expose their ignorance in such a manner.

It’s perfectly possible to hate the dumbing down of popular culture and the ‘proud to be ignorant’ without introducing a class element.
Equating intelligence or the thirst for knowledge with any particular class or type of upbringing is ignorant and prejudicial in itself.

I’m more interested to know if the organisers have now done something to repair the damage that the race caused to the trails at Blairadam?

Marty, I was up at Blairadam last night and tried to ride the ridge trail which at this time of year is a great swoopy singletrack descent. Its now an eight foot wide swamp in places. We’ve had some great dry weather here lately, it should have been dry. On the students race day it was pouring. Seems someone left common sense at home. The blame cannot be wholly levelled at the students. There was an ‘advisor’ who okayed the route who has still to be identified. Who ever that was needs horsewhipping.

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/blairadam-trails-after-sus-mtb-champs

This is familiar
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/class-what-exactly-defines-the-classes

hia = working class
hello = middle class
helair = upper class
HAWHAWHAWHAW = royalty
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