- Generation Kill
handy for the first few episodes as differentiating between similarly equipped marines was initially difficult
That’s where the book is easier. You always know who is who.
With the show it’s much harder. Lot’s of time is spent trying to work out who is who. Brilliant series though.Posted 4 years agoscudMember
Not quite as good, but still really good was Over There, worth a watch.Posted 4 years ago
somewhatslightlydazed – Member
Is that the book about the first days of the Second Gulf War?
I read it a few years ago and found it quite flawed.
The series is well worth a watch though fella. Because the joy of it is the dialogue, and the interplay between the main characters. I couldn’t really care less how accurate it is, when the dialogue is this good! The banter between Brad and Ray is utterly inspired
Posted 4 years agoNorthwindSubscriber
There was a fair amount of comment on accuracy of the book and series but the marines featured most heavily don’t seem to have much issue- several were involved in the filming (Rudi plays himself, others were advisors or support) so I dunno, I reckon you can take their stamp of approval more highly than that of those who weren’t there or maybe have some agendas.The air force spotter made quite a lot of comment about inaccuracy but tbh it all felt quite like reasonable confusion, 2 different people or groups seeing the same situation from different angles. In the end, it’s not supposed to be a documentary about the war, it’s supposed to be a ridealong with one unit so you see it as they see it, maybe not exactly how it is or was.Posted 4 years ago
I think the main problem with the book is that the reporter left the unit just after they had reached Bagdad and “won the war” with minimal casualties (I think one guy got hit by a ricochet and was out of action for two days).
Therefore the whole theme of the book is a bit “havent we done a good thing here and isn’t war great – just like an Xbox game with your mates.”
In the final chapter the reporter did meet a couple of guys from the unit who had sufferered horrendous injuries at Fallujah. But he wasn’t there, so his description of a guy having his arms blown off by an RPG still seems a bit gung ho.
So the book’s not inaccurate, just very one sided.
I imagine A TV series, with the benefit of hindsight from later events, would be much better.Posted 4 years ago
Yeah… thats pretty much the polar opposite of what I took from it. Its about as ‘isn’t war a great old laugh?’ as Blackadder goes Forth.
And as for ‘haven’t we done a great thing?’…. The abiding impression is that no-one really knows why they’re there, or what it is they’re meant to be trying to doPosted 4 years ago
Are you sure you didn’t read some other book? Perhaps one of the Halo spinoff novels?
Just Googled it. Was definately Generation Kill. The reporter was embedded with a marine unit for two months during the invasion and occupation of Bagdad.
I read it years ago and still remember it as a very unsettling book.Posted 4 years ago
And as for ‘haven’t we done a great thing?’…. The abiding impression is that no-one really knows why they’re there, or what it is they’re meant to be trying to do
I assume thats the TV series? Does it carry on after they’ve occupied Bagdad?
And does it include any refernce to pre combat wanks? There’s a weird bit in the book were the reporter is watching some guy sat on thelatrine jerking off, just before he goes off on patrol.Posted 4 years agocheekyboyMember
I have always found it rather bizarre that the British Film industry has yet to make either a decent film or docudrama along these lines for the Falklands conflict; it does offer a massive scope for some good watching and would be relatively easy to make.Posted 4 years ago
Maybe the Thatcher angle doesn’t sit well with the luvvies in the film industry.
I have always found it rather bizarre that the British Film industry has yet to make either a decent film or docudrama along these lines for the Falklands conflict;
There was something on years ago called “An Ungentlemanly Act” about the original invasion.Posted 4 years agospawnofyorkshireSubscriber
The book is a really good read and some of the criticisms are addressed in the appendix in the copy i have
This was an interesting watch; it’s a presentation by Lt. Fick and he covers a lot about the iraq invasionPosted 4 years ago
So I did abit of reading and it seems the writer has been alittle unfair in his portrayal of some of the officers.
Capt Mcrgraw (Cpt America)
Were potrayad badly. Apparently Mcgraw was highly thought of and the fire mission wasn’t correct.
I thought it odd that if they were that bad they would have been relieved of command. After all a Colonel was.
Officers were rigorously selected for recon so the fire mission mistake technicality couldn’t have happened.Posted 3 years ago
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