Firewood prices, what are you paying? logs & woodburner content
We buy 5 tonnes (ish) from forestry commission every year. £105. Is usually unseasoned spruce (fine in a stove) in 3m lengths up to 75cm diameter logs so a fair amount of work and time needed to make it stove ready – transport, cutting, splitting and seasoning (which is part of the fun IMO) all need to be considered. By the time you’ve done all this work and laid it for a year to season, you’re very attached to it and almost scared to burn it!Posted 4 years ago
We buy 5 tonnes (ish) from forestry commission every year. £105
Similar here. I paid £90 for this trailer of wood from a local tree surgeonPosted 4 years ago
I’ve still got the larger trunks to process but this is about 2/3 of it now – which i’ve just put under cover and is about 8m3
Have you measured it (builders dumpy bag is a about .75m3 I think)?
It stacked up into a 2m3 stack. We had beech as well as ash so its all good firewood.
Thanks all, seems we’re doing ok with our current chap then.
Slightly envious of the unseasoned spruce price, but we have no means to transport and no time to process it for this year. Plus storage space isn’t big enough to have next years wood seasoning while we’re burning this years wood 🙁Posted 4 years ago
Quick poll of STWers on price of logs. It’s somewhat important for us – the whole house is heated entirely by wood (plus some coal for ease of overnight burns), and we’re buying quite a lot of them there logs.
Just got in around 2.5m3 (1.5ton ish) for £190. That’s seasoned hardwood, mostly ash.
Are we getting a decent deal there or have we been bent over?Posted 4 years agojulianwilsonMember
£75 for a cubic metre or so of nice seasoned, dry, long-burning non-spitty hardwood, and cheaper if you buy twice as much (but we haven’t got the storage sorted out for that much yet). The guy that delivers it has a lovely rugged lwb landy pickup and looks like Ben Fogle so mrs is burning it like its going out of fashion!Posted 4 years agoNobeerinthefridgeSubscriber
I don’t tend to buy wood, got a few places nearby that no one bothers about me taking the windfall every year, and a long forgotten wood on brown belt land that I’m thinning out too. An old fella I know told me you should get 3 heats from wood, cutting, chopping and stacking, and then burning. 😀
Got a load of sycamore a couple of years back, once seasoned it was really good firewood.Posted 4 years ago
If you are buying for immediate burning you would be much better knowing what the moisture content of your wood is rather than the precise volume or mass of it per £.
It’s not just a minor technical detail for the geeks, it has a massive effect on the value for money of your heating fuel.
For example, if you paid, £100 for 1 tonne of 50% moisture wood (freshly cut) at 2,200 kWh per tonne net energy output, then 1kWh would cost you 4.5p/kWh
If you paid £100 a tonne for 20% (air dried) moisture wood at 4,000 kWh per tonne then 1kWh would cost you 2.5p. 45% less.
But you wouldnt know which one you had bought. And it’s hard to really notice that good wood requires less of it to keep the house warm. But it does. And Ive seen both sold as “seasoned firewood”, or “3yr old fire wood” or “barn stored firewood”.
I’m just in from my local and had a chat with a good mate who is sells firewood. He’s miffed that a guy who promised him 270 tons of oak, felled 30 months ago, isnt honouring an agreement to sell it to him for £55 a ton roadisde. Because that is good wood that he can sell this season for around £100-150 a ton. He could buy wet wood for £40 a ton, but he cant sell it to his customers for 2 or 3 years at least.Posted 4 years ago
Which is why firewood has to be sold in size not weight,
Drac – If you’re right, I shall properly eat humble pie. But I think that very unlikely. Even if it were a nice pie.
There is no restriction on the unit of sale of firewood. If you can cite a statute, now would be a good opportunity.
BTW – sale by weight makes far more sense than sale by volume. Sale by volume, unless the wood is stacked perfectly can vary in it’s “wood” content by the size and shape of the log (let aalone the stacking).
Sale by mass, WITH A MOISTURE CONTENT certified for the average log would give afar more accurate indication of the amount of energy being bought.Posted 4 years agoWEJSubscriber
WEJ, seeing as wood takes a very very very long time to dry as cord (I.e unsplit and in long lengths), I can’t see how that wood can be 20% mc unless your measuring it on the outside.
Felled last year, I think. Stored in an open site and a dry summer. Middle of timber was up to 25%, some of the ends were as low as 10-12%, according to my moisture meter. Will double check though. Wasn’t too bothered as I won’t need to burn it until late spring anyway.Posted 4 years agomikewsmithSubscriber
Last I got was about 1.5-2m3 (on the weight limit of the van) and it cost me about £100 in fuel to get it home from my parents. Nice dry hardwood though.
Over here in Tassie they sell it by the meter stacked, but they don’t specify how tall or wide the stack is… 🙄Posted 4 years ago
WEJ – Id calibrate your moisture meter if I were you.
Natural air dried wood in the UK really isnt able to get below 20% usually due to general levels of air moisture/humidity.
My moisture meter has not been calibrated so I cant guarantee figures but it does tend to produce expected results. 3 yr split and covered outdoor logs are 18-20% throughout. logs split 6m ago and felled 12m ago are now 20% at the outside (0-15mm) and around 30-34% in the core having been 35-45% when first corded. It will take another 12m for these to get down to 20% throughout.Posted 4 years agorogerthecatMember
Great info chaps, been buying by the ‘load’ here, which is about a heaped tipper of seasoned mixed wood just about to reorder so will use the info on this thread to make a better buying decision – guesstimate there was about 2m3 for £140 – got us through last winter’s snows and is just running out now as we only use it when we needed.Posted 4 years ago
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