- Elfin's Tuesday Architectural Appreciation Thread! This week- Concrete.
I’ll bite TooTall. Very few private houses in this country are made from concrete. Also, modern concrete framed buildings are have to pass stringent Building Regs for energy efficiency that are getting tighter all the time.
Missed the hook. Try again. It has nothing to do with private houses and Building Regs for efficiency. It has to do with the embodied energy in the building material. This might help explain:
Don’t forget that you can’t directly compare the figures as you use different quantities in construction. However, mass concrete isn’t very environmentally sound as a material.Posted 8 years agoleggyblondeMember
I understand embodied energy perfectly, but the initial build is only part of the lifecycle energy use of a building. Concrete also absorbs significant amounts ofCO2 as it cures and that link was cradle to gate. BTW, you’re the one who mentioned houses….
I’m no RC fanatic, I design buildings using most materials and (like most engineers) try to be as efficient as possible. However, often concrete is the best option.Posted 8 years agoaPMember
IMHO concrete can be considerably more environmentally sound than other materials – particularly if you’re doing things that have to hold other things up or back, and that need to last for a long time.
Probably one of the least environmentally conscious building materials used in the last decade has been thin timber cladding which isn’t maintained, isn;t detailed properly and looks like poo within 6 months, and lasts for about 5 years. It may have low embodied energy but if it stops doing its function within such a short timescale then as far as I’m concerned its failed as a choice of material.
Brynmawr Rubber Factory – criminally demolished
le Corbusier – Philips Pavilion (hyperbolic paraboloid)Posted 8 years ago
No arguing on my architecture thread please. If not like then go away not cause trouble for other people who enjoy.
aP is architect so knows stuffs.
Some wonderful examples of the sheer diversity of forms that can be created using concrete, and some stunningly mad structures!
Caymden Tahyn All:
Catholic Cathedral, Liverpool:
Guggenheim Museum, New York:
No need to be so rude!Posted 8 years ago
Not yet, the builders still have their skip in the way from the kitchen extension.
I have managed to hide the first 1/2 ton of rubble in their last couple of skips but the next session is the real thing. I reckon a rented kanga and a 6 cubic yard skip or two should see the back of it. No more that 20 tons in total is the current guestimate.
Trust me, you will be called upon, my family don’t trust me with power tools any more and reckon my shoulders won’t cope with hard workPosted 8 years agoSandwichSubscriber
If the Brunel building is listed due to woodgrain effect will this also apply to the Flyover next to Edgware Road Tube Station? Scaffold board woodgrain all over that beastie.Posted 8 years ago
Also being pedantic the Shard has a concrete core for lifts etc. but will be steel and glass clad so not really eligible for this thread.
I’ll see your Hope Cement works are raise you a Barcelona Cement works – now converted to housing
with all the foliage it reminds me a bit of Cardross Seminary posted earlier – makes me wonder whether Urban Splash will make anything as interesting with the building or whether they’ll make something as soulless as their conversion of Fort DunlopPosted 8 years ago
If the Brunel building is listed due to woodgrain effect will this also apply to the Flyover next to Edgware Road Tube Station? Scaffold board woodgrain all over that beastie.
Perhaps it is protected too?
Brunel lecture centre is genuinely protected – it was actually an intended feature of the building and not just a byproduct of the construction process.Posted 8 years ago
Don Simon I’m glad you posted the old police HQ at Chester, now it’s awfulness has gone the pink flats at Salmon Leap should be The next concrete carbunkles crushed in Chester. Gorgeous views looking out over the Dee just hope no one sees you though.
How dare you? Both I feel are function over form. The old Police HQ was a perfect example of the 1960s’ architecture.Posted 8 years ago
The flats at Salmoln Leap have an almost pefect view, only spoiled by the flats on the other side of the river, which neither add anything to the cityscape or provide the resident with anything positive apart froma flat within the city walls. I love the flats at Salmoln Leap as I did the Police HQ.
Stunning. Some amazing stuff posted here. Dispels the myth that concrete buildings are ugly, soulless depressing lumps.This has been very enlightening.
This wonderful building, the ‘Metal Box’ in Reading, is due for demolition. Which I think is criminal personally. It’s a brilliant example of a particular style of architecture, and ought to be preserved for historical reasons, imo. I suspect it will be replaced with some utterly soulless and unimaginative glass boxes, like everywhere else. Can’t stand the way that certain styles are preserved regardless of real merit, yet others simply brushed aside, wiping out history.
It’s a proper sexy 70s building. Just the sight of it evokes memories of pretty girls in bold pattered outfits, with nice hair…
The Metal Box is the Athena Tennis Girl of the building world. Might not have bin the greatest example of architecture ever, but has a cultural value and is part of the landscape of time.Posted 8 years agomidlifecrashesMember
There used to be quite a bit of concrete domestic housing, some crap, some doing just fine. I own this one, Laing Easiform construction, c1948. It will likely outlast me and isn’t showing any problems beyond what any older house might. Double skin poured in situ, solid as a rock, but don’t try drilling holes with mamby pamby cordless, SDS and a fresh bit every time.
Brand new, just up the road in Wakefield is the Hepworth gallery, another “Oh look at me I’m made of CONCRETE wankfest”.
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