Donald! Trump!

We’ve got poor MP’s, and I don’t think our system allows anything much better.

The worse the Conservatives mess things up, the more the public think that all MPs are as bad as the MPs with the power to mess things up... so give those failing MPs the benefit of the doubt and give them the power to mess things up even more.

So, yes, Tories again in 2024, as people will think Labour cant do it any better.

It's worse than that... elections have so often been won by the Conservatives with the public taking the attitude of... "Only the Tories can get us out of the mess"... even when that mess was entirely down to the actions of the Conservatives in office. The last few wins are just the most recent example of this tendency... it's an old one that's been revived.

Would Labour have really done any better though?

It's entirely an unknown quantity, because people are elected mostly on sentiment, and very occasionally on manifesto. Their competence is unknown until they are actually tested.

I'd have gone for Corbyn purely because his idea of leadership is listening and finding consensus, which is the opposite of what Boris does, and it's done for different reasons because party ideology is completely different. Tories want corporations to be free to make tons of money however they want, which always invovles screwing everyone over; Labour want to force them to be good to their staff and look after the unfortunate. Struggle to see a problem making this choice.

But anyway this is a Trump thread.

But anyway this is a Trump thread.

It is... and it works the same way... "Look at the mess this country has become over the last few years... only I... Donald J Trump... can fix that mess".

Example...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313822284205916162?s=20

Lol

I love that so many of Trump's attack ads are now "Riots- disasters- disease- joblessness- this is what America will look like under Biden". All literally illustrated by images of things that happened under Trump. This one's from this year, this one's from this year, ah remember this one from 2017, classic.

Let's just mention that while there's an argument that forest management is contributing to California's fires, it's mostly the management of federal land that's the issue, ie Trump's government's job. But of course, if you can fail then blame your opponents that's a win in his head even as half a state burns down.

Trump right now appears to be:

I love that so many of Trump’s attack ads are now

It seems to work to some degree though. There seems to be an ability of some on the right that despite having been in power for years they somehow still claim to be the new broom. Johnson managed to pull it off (there were some classic interviews with people saying they voted for him so there would be a change) so lets hope Trump doesnt.

James Corden's 'tribute to Trump' is pretty polished, for him. He's got a decent voice.

Would Labour have really done any better though?
Certainly not with Corbyn in charge, and I have my doubts about Starmer.

Keep drinking the Kool Aid.

A compelling argument...

The question is not whether Labour would have done any better, the question is could they possibly have done any worse.

Vote TRUMP California. No more blackouts, shutdowns, ridiculous forrest fires, or water “rationing” (coming soon). We can win in California NOW!

Does Trump actually know that if the state voted for him then it wouldn't change the state legislature?

Corden’s delivery of the “experimental cocktail” line is perfect.

This could be something about nothing… apologies if that’s what it turns out to be… but it might be signs of preparation for something quite worrying…

https://www.propublica.org/article/doj-frees-federal-prosecutors-to-take-steps-that-could-interfere-with-elections-weakening-long-standing-policy

The question is not whether Labour would have done any better, the question is could they possibly have done any worse.

That could be Starmers key election message.

I'm imagining how painful Trump will be in the last couple of months of his term if he does lose. Wouldn't surprise me if he buggers off, leaves it to Pence to handover.

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1313989618644275202

I’m imagining how painful Trump will be in the last couple of months of his term if he does lose. Wouldn’t surprise me if he buggers off, leaves it to Pence to handover

Cohen's theory is once he knows it's hopeless he'll probably resign so that Pence can at least pardon and federal stuff, not all that far-fetched given all the other crazy stuff that Trump's done. Hopefully his narcissism will mean he never realises it's game over until he's turfed out by the secret service

For many, politics has moved from manifesto and delivery to appearance and feel-good factor. MAGA is actually about nothing and Johnson's flagged references to WW2 and brilliantined Starmer's patriotism are just illusions about hopeful imaginings, pick your dream. The meek and mild Corbyn is portrayed as some Stalinist monster or a 70s Marxist (new term for me that one, Althusser, Bourdieu or Eurocommunism?) and Biden is an undead Che Guevara.
Now Trump claims that catching Covid was a blessing from God and free new drugs will cure everyone. Easy to laugh at from over here but not much different from 40 hospitals, moonshots, windfarms, plus a bit of distraction from immigrants, the proms, Marxism in schools, and the unmasked Stanley Johnson.
It is fascinating in a period of bare knuckle struggle between capital and labour how ignorance, emotion and illusion are used to get victims to beat themselves up and to suck up deferentially to a suited saviour.
Will Trump fall off the shelf? He found it a lot easier to catch Covid than catch his breath but I'm sure some fairy dust will ride to the rescue.

From Paul Components IG:

Trump Is Just A Broke Tax Cheat With 5 Kids From 3 Wives, Living, In Public Housing.

Just seen him in the news claiming he told the doctors which drugs to give him and that those drugs were amazing and cured him.

"This was a blessing in disguise - I caught it, I heard about this drug, I said let me take it and it was incredible," he said, adding that he would seek emergency use authorisations for the drugs.

President Trump renewed his attacks on China, telling Americans: "You're not going to pay for it. It wasn't your fault that this happened. It was China's fault. And China is going to pay a big price,,, This was China's fault."

I hope Pence didn't break any of his sacred chastity rules by being in close association with a fly for that long. 🙂

It's a good indicator that he is rotting from the inside out, though.

Should have gone full Nazi stooge, Indiana Jones style.

We're sick of experts and exports too and who needs medical schools? Cheap labour contractors and accountancy firms are much better and much betterer still when you have a loyal and obedient opposition.

loyal and obedient opposition

Who are they?

Who are they? Those that say 'get a grip' and 'must try harder' rather than learning from eg NZ and proposing more successful alternatives. If all you do is support this utterly incompetent government, you get spattered in just the same way when the matter hits the fan and the voters are not given real alternatives. I doubt whether many people could say what principles Labour stands for now as all we've heard about is values of decency, professionalism, electability, patriotism, all designed not to get people campaigning out on the streets.

Drifting off topic chaps; UK politics is over there >>>

The questions are being finalised for the next debate.

Comments above about how he will clear off as soon as the election is lost, I'm not so sure, I think he may concentrate his last couple of months on as much wrecking and destruction as possible. A whirlwind political orange baby tantrum if you will.

So, has the Donald confounded us all and recovered in record time...?!

Praise the Lord,it's a miracle

Comments above about how he will clear off as soon as the election is lost, I’m not so sure, I think he may concentrate his last couple of months on as much wrecking and destruction as possible. A whirlwind political orange baby tantrum if you will.

That's my concern. It's looking like the US are going to be hit hard with another COVID wave Nov onwards, last thing you need is a self-imploding Trump's administration - not that they could do much worse I guess.

So the Pence/Harris debate looks to have had little impact, which is what Biden would want? Neither of them answered a question they were asked, Pence came across as mansplaining so won't go down well with the female vote. A fly was the highlight.

https://twitter.com/TeamJoe/status/1314041430382272514

Regeneron - isn't it based on giving you other people's antibodies?

It's really only a step away from harvesting humans for their blood.

Really it's pretty obvious where this is going.

Comments above about how he will clear off as soon as the election is lost, I’m not so sure, I think he may concentrate his last couple of months on as much wrecking and destruction as possible.

Yes, the sensible thing to do would be to issue pardons for all his family and friends, then quit and have Pence issue a blanket pardon for him. In reality, I think he's going to go completely off the rails and refuse to accept that he lost. Whatever is left of the Republican Party might be a bunch of nutters, but I think most of the cabinet secretaries and staff will know the game is up and tender their resignations in the hope that they can salvage political careers from the wreckage. Key thing will be whether Justice Department career staff and military staff quit rather than follow a crazy man.

It’s really only a step away from harvesting humans aborted fetuses for their blood.

FTFY

Regeneron – isn’t it based on giving you other people’s antibodies?

I thought it was synthetic, manufactured? But yes, based on other people's (and animals) immune response.

'To develop REGN-COV2, Regeneron scientists evaluated thousands of fully-human antibodies produced by the company's VelocImmune® mice, which have been genetically modified to have a human immune system, as well as antibodies identified from humans who have recovered from COVID-19.'

Yes, the sensible thing to do would be to issue pardons for all his family and friends, then quit and have Pence issue a blanket pardon for him.

You can't pardon him if he hasn't been prosecuted. So his opponents would just have to wait a bit before launching proceedings.

You can’t pardon him if he hasn’t been prosecuted.

Apparently..you can pre-emptively issue a pardon. Strange but true.

The important thing is that a president can only pardon federal crimes, not ones being prosecuted at state level, such as the Southern District of New York, which has a few indictments ready to go, I suspect.

Also didn't somebody say earlier presidential pardons are only for federal crimes? The Trump family's issues are with NY state.

How is that vastly different to a blood infusion - ‘you can have something of mine that I don’t need’.

Though the name Regeneron does have dystopian ‘human factory’ overtones.

If he was preemptively pardoned as the incumbent president presume that would only serve to show how massive a shit show this whole thing is.

Regeneron's antibody treatment was developed using embryonic stem cell research. Which will probably be glossed over slightly by the president, I'm guessing.

I'd like to point out that I predicted he would come out of hospital and do an infomercial for a miracle cure - I was pretty much right.

You were very much right.

You can’t pardon him if he hasn’t been prosecuted.

Aside from that is precisely what happened with Nixon.
Although I did see an argument that this was on shaky ground and basically worked by it not being challenged legally.

I’d like to point out that I predicted he would come out of hospital and do an infomercial for a miracle cure – I was pretty much right.

Beware the soothsayer. Lot's of us saw that coming.
The question is how much of it was bullshit, was he actually ill or just had an asymptomatic case and the rest was all staged (going to hospital, getting 'cured') to help his cause

He was ill. And probably will be for some time to come. He's in (very) safe hands though.

You can’t pardon him if he hasn’t been prosecuted.

Bigger problem for Trump is that if you accept a pardon, you apparently lose the right to refuse to answer questions on the grounds of self-incrimination, so you can be compelled to testify and face charges of contempt or perjury if you are uncooperative. What the Trump family fear more than anything else is having all their secrets exposed so a pardon will make things really interesting.

He was ill. And probably will be for some time to come. He’s in (very) safe hands though.

His stage makeup seems to be getting thicker and thicker. In that latest vid his face had that pumped up look I recognise from my FIL when he was on steroids.

'President Trump renewed his attacks on China, telling Americans: "You're not going to pay for it. It wasn't your fault that this happened. It was China's fault. And China is going to pay a big price. This was China's fault."'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54455040

Stirring up racial hatred to distract from his own failings. What a despicable excuse for a human being.