http://www.studentvaccine.co.uk/#what_study
This trial is being advertised at uni….do you think its worth the risk / inconvenience etc. for the £30 that they’re paying?

And in general would you be willing to do a trial such as this?

don’t you remember those dudes whose heads swelled up to like twice their normal size?….

£30 is a very small amount of money. Don’t be stupid.

I’d say No.
I might think about participating for £30k, but not £30.
If you need the money, give your local sperm bank a call instead.

(I work in the pharma industry running clinical trials!)

Research clinical trials gone wrong.

Don’t do it.

It may be a very small risk, but it’s not worth it.

£30? That is highly insulting. Considering the profit/amount they can make from a working drug etc.

Glad I’m not the only one that thought £30 was not enough for that!

Think I’ll be giving that a miss

If you need the money, give your local sperm bank a call instead.

might be a slight problem with that one 😉

If you need the money, give your local sperm bank a call instead.

Given the OP’s name, that could be an interesting conversation.

Being a female Uni student surely one could be classed as a human sperm bank? (runs and hides!!!)

(runs and hides!!!)

good idea Hora!!

some friends of friends i know did longer term medical trials. up to 3 months at a time; some in complete isolation. really well paid. but they hated it. some of them ended up getting ill and having to be treated for a further month!!

sounds hellish to me!

You would get a few quid for a mouthful fancy goin halves 😉

So (forget the people who swelled up) many years ago as a student we had the same idea- I think it was something like £1,500 for a weeks residential stay.

They gave us forms to complete and buried in the t&c’s were limiting liabilities listing everything. Its the smartest thing I did walking out- I was absolutely broke then and struggling to eat regularly.

So, the only thing you have in your life of worth is your health. No amount of wealth can ever replace health ever.

So for a small amount people are willing to risk their future health? Madness. Utter madness.

Remember, if you have to sign a contract (i.e disclaimer) then theres a real chance of something going wrong no?

I got £800 for breathing some CO2 and taking a pill, over 5 x 2hour sessions. I was broke so I needed the money, and I was fine after so it all worked out OK. Not sure I’d take the risk now that I have a job, but all these drugs have already gone through a bunch of animal tests and are usually very safe.

Being a female Uni student surely one could be classed as a human sperm bank? (runs and hides!!!)

real-life lol at that 😆

Oops – forget the sperm bank idea then.

As an aside, a lot of females are excluded from clinical trials particularly those described above) due to teratogenic risks.
Make that 3000k to enter the study.

but all these drugs have already gone through a bunch of animal tests and are usually very safe

Devils advocate but why not just send them out into the market place as they are then?

i did a few when i was a student at uni, but the ones i did were just testing interactions between other drugs / alcohol. The only trials i chose were with pretty well established drugs, i wouldnt touch a brand new drug!

Best one i did was checking reaction of alcohol with a drug. Got paid £300 to lie in a bed for 2 seperate days watching dvd’s and eating M&S sandwiches while being given a double vodka every hour and having to perform some memory tests and reaction time test every hour!

I wouldnt do one for £30 though!!

Being a female Uni student surely one could be classed as a human sperm bank?

Eeee I remember uni.

A vaccination against students? Where do I sign up?

It’s probably perfectly safe having been “tested” in a south American country for the past 5 years.

£30 for a day of non-medicine physiological/psychological stuff? Maybe.

£30 for a vaccine? No way!

There are different types of clinical trials. Looking at the OP’s link, this is a phase 3 trial, so the medicine has been approved by the regulatory authorities and is licensed for use – phase 3 trials are basically collecting info on use of the medicine in a large number of patients.

The Northwick Park one was a phase 1 – first time the medicine had been tested in humans, so completely different.

I’d be happy to take part in a phase 3 trial.

MrsT

http://www.the-scientist.com/blog/display/54825/

But someone has to.

MrsTricky – you’re thinking of Phase 4 trials.

Phase 3 trials are where you collect the efficacy/safety data for approval, or not, by regulatory authorities. Phase 3 trials can often be the first time the drug has gone into more than a few tens of patients.

I signed up for a viagra trial and was stuck in there for hours!

There was an advert in last weeks Evening Standard for volunteers to have 2 PET / MRI scans on their brains. Approx £300 payment.

Doctor on a GasGas?

My day job… putting new drugs into people…Please don’t start on Northwick Park, the fall out from what was a reckless study by a small biotech, is still being felt daily.

There are good scientific reasons for a vaccine study for meningitis in universities. All those susceptibles coming together gives epidemics at the start of each new year. One often sees media reports of a death at this time of year.

Bacterial meningitis is driven my Neisseria menigitides and Haemophilus influenza and Streptoccocus pneumoniae. Vaccines for these are normally small segments of the bacterial coat, given to boost your immune system for when (if?) it sees the real thing. they are a good thing (TM).

I’d enter in a shot because there will be plenty of supporting data to show that the test vaccine (and of course the licensed vaccine) will promote an appropriate immune response with an acceptable safety profile. £30 is not much, but if it’s Hib, you may be too old to have been vaccinated in the past, so you will benefit from the trial on either treatment. They want to show that their bacterial coat (antigen) is at least as good as the marketed vaccine (which is now standard in the UK) and need to find a population with high enough incidence to test this (hence universities).

Still think it’s not worth £30?

Holy shit, no!
I used to work at a medical research centre. The number of times I’ve seen a drug tried and tested ok on one species only to be proven 100% lethal in another…
Fair enough if it’s eczema cream, but anything else? DO NOT DO IT!

If you need the money, give your local sperm bank a call instead

The donation must also be for altruistic reasons and
clinics are not allowed pay men to be a donor, although expenses such as
travel or loss of earnings due to time off work may be paid up to a legal
maximum by agreement. Clinics are, however, allowed to offer fertility
treatment services at reduced cost or even free of charge to the donor or
couple as a consequence of his donation.

There goes my idea of reducing the student debt.