- BluePig or Mmmbop?
through CRC I’d imagine.
I’m sure Brant was trying to convince me on another thread that the alu one has more compliant seatstays due to the longer length/no disk mounts. But on another thread he was telling me there was no such thing as compliant seatstays on any bike. And MBUK says that the hemlock has stays made from spaggetti. Apparently it’s all in the designers skill when they spec the butted tubing, but then he went and gave us the summer season?
So from that I’ve decided never to buy another bike unless I’ve had a test ride on it. Anyway, how much better than the next best thing can any bike be, theres still 2 wheels?Posted 8 years agoclubberMember
The top tube is really what you should be looking at if you want to know how springy (from a comfort point of view) a frame will likely feel… (ignore damping properties of some materials like carbon).
Triangulated stays/seat tube/rear axle don’t leave a lot of room for flex no matter what the marketeers would like you to believe unless they’re silly skinny in which case it’ll probably be noodly under power unless they’re also seriously ovalised…Posted 8 years agoclubberMember
Most steel frames are around that aren’t they? (or are going to be) I know my PA is, and the Alpine is heavier than that.
Most of the ‘hardcore(ish) hardtails’ are, yes. And very few of them are stereotypical-steel springy since they’ve got beefed top and down tubes for long (5″+) forksPosted 8 years agophildowlingMember
thisisnotaspoon – Member
through CRC I’d imagine.
Will also be available through a selected number of shops. We’ll be offering custom builds and will be running 2 demo’sPosted 8 years ago
I’ve earned some overtime money and fancy a new compact HT frame for playtime. I was deffo going to get a Summer Season but then Brant brought out these interesting Ragley frames…
So they’re basically the same geometry, frame features and price. The Blue is a kilo heavier but with a “springy” ride.
Based on looks alone, I’m liking the chunky lime Mmmbop over the more gusseted tangerine BluePig. Other pros and cons?Posted 8 years ago
Well I have been paying homage to my existing HT – an 18″ ALU Mongoose Tyax (aka “Tank”) built up with some TORAs and big bars & stem by riding it.
About the only things not replaced through crash damage and wear is the frame. The thing is heavily scratched and dented, it’s probably indestructible. It’s currently upside down in my garage awaiting yet another mech and hanger replacement.
Just fancy another HT frame – something compact and modern for flinging about, with nice funky summer colour.Posted 8 years agoahwilesSubscriber
steel-pig for me.
yes, steel frames are heavier, no, i’ve not really noticed any more give from steel stays over an ally frame, but short of riding it under a steam roller it should still be going in 10 years time.
i just like the idea of buying kit that lasts, and aluminium is just a bit ephemeral.
(i’d rather watch WRC than F1 – if that helps explain my position on these things)
bikes are ace, and brant is a bad man.Posted 8 years ago
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