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Or is it just local to the Westbury area? I’m continually hearing loud bangs from modified cars driving around the trading estate where I work, as I’m outside all day maybe I’m noticing it more, but it’s not something I’ve been aware of previously. Sounds stupid, and it can’t help with the longevity of things like the exhaust system.
Yup seems a thing again althouh most seem to struggle to do it.
Yes it is a thing - tradionally it was the sole preserve of the super-aggressive cams and/or turbo-related rich fueling of a racing car, but nowadays any chav can have their hopped-up GTi do it.
Pops n Bangs map yo 🙄 Also seen in the likes of the Jaguar F-Type ffs
I am occasionally allowed to help service a 1990’s rally car
it has “anti-lag” which kinda injects fuel when you decelerate in case you want speed up again quickly.
If you don’t, the spare fuel gets in to the hot exhaust pipe and goes BANG!
Some people think a Vauxhall Nova* sounds Coooool if it does the same, so find ways to mimic the sound.
Other cars are knackered and do it anyway.
*other newer seriously coooool cars are available
I like it ☺️
80's again innit !
Our mighty* Ibiza 1.4 16v, pumping out a Tarmac bending 75bhp has never, and is highly unlikely to ever, partake in such shows...but only as it's the estate. If it was the 2-door, she'd pop and bang like a drum kit...
Yup a few of the scrotes up our neck of the woods have jumped on the bandwagon, terrible.
Of course when i use to flick the kill switch off , while on overrun on my cbr6 & flick it back on the resulting gunshot was highly amusing.
80’s again innit !
+1 It's been a 'thing' for at least 30+ years!!
Quite a lot of standard 'performance' cars seem to be mapped as standard to give a bit of a pop-pop-pop when the throttle is heavily lifted-off.
There's a bloke round the corner who I assume works for the local Mini dealership, given that he has a different Mini every few weeks. Every time he gets the JCW ones, you can hear him careering down the road, accelerating hard then lifting off to get a bit of a pop-bag from the exhaust. He does it repeatedly all the way down the road. Tosser.
My dad's ride-on mower does it. Quite alarming when you are sat 12 inches from the exhaust. Think it might be an issue with the (manual) choke.
Can we join the cooool gang?
My motorbike can shoot flames a good 5 feet out of the exhaust. But if anyone else does it, they're dicks
Think of it as a mouthbreather early warning system.
its actually unburnt fuel ignited by static sparks from blue and white sportswear. FACT.
My mate used to turn the ignition off in his Skoda Estelle then turn it back on again under throttle to get a ridiculous backfire.
We were children though.
Flat shifting in my old Honda at 8,600rpm would produce some hefty flames out of the exhaust, but no backfire bangs.
My Cooper S does it from standard, lift off/change gear and it pops and bangs and it now has a stainless Cat back performance exhaust so can be quite loud. When I first got it the wife borrowed it for a couple of days and said she didn't realise it did it all the time she thought I made it do it 🙂
It's a retard 'thing'.
My 1949 Matchless 350 has a manual advance lever on the bars. While on overrun downhill, the lever can be shoved back to full retard for fully awesome popping and banging. Most excellent for alerting nervous horses to your presence.
An Astra VXR has the retard affixed to the drivers seat rather than the bars.
I’ve noticed it more too. The 80’s are back! I might join in and have my Zafira convertedto do it. Zafiras are cool right?
Antisocial noise pollution. Loud motorcycle exhausts are a similar problem.
The other side of the workshop wall theyve been sticking an RS engine back into a Rally Escort. It sounds like an artillery range at work at the moment.
My previous motorbike (TL1000) used to do it a fair bit when the throttle as shut off quickly, sounded like a shotgun and used to set off car alarms. New bike (gsxr1000) doesn’t back fire but still gets a nice burble on the over run when it’s nice and cosy.
My brother has a Nissan Pulsat GTi-R many years ago with a 4” straight through exhaust that used to spit blue flames about 6ft out the back under hard acceleration. Sounded like a jet fighter aswell.. awesomeness innit.
Loud pipes save lives for motorcyclists. I used to do the whole accelerate hard, switch off then back on again really quickly in my Nova in my younger years until a massive flame melted the paint on my bumper.
Im still 18 in my head.
A faceache friend of mine has recently spent about £600 getting his Lancer Evo (on which he's already spent a kings ransom on carbon bits and shiny bling) remapped to fart, bang and whistle to order.
He also specialises in blocking the maximum number of car parking spaces whenever he's out with it. And then bragging about it on Instagram :-/
But weird since he's actually a really sound guy at any other time...
What will our 2nd hand electric cars be modded to do in the hands of bored young men in the 2nd half of this century? There are worse outlets for 'individuality'.
Loud pipes save lives for motorcyclists.
What?
Loud pipes may save their lives but the indiscriminate rev-bomber should be put to death.
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Erm, the thing with motorbike exhausts is that they point backwards. I think there does seem to be a theory that 'the car drivers must hear me because my exhaust is really loud' when the reality is that the exhaust don't actually sound very loud until it's practically gone past.
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You can hear my bike coming before you see it anyway. It’s not excessively loud or it wouldn’t pass an MOT, if it alerts car drivers to my presence then I’m happy to be labelled as antisocial when I’m out on it.
What will our 2nd hand electric cars be modded to do in the hands of bored young men in the 2nd half of this century? There are worse outlets for ‘individuality’.
Are we now talking about induction noise then?
****s with stupidly loud cars and motorbikes are the oone thing that makes me want to move house. It actually quite up sets me sometimes.
I like my house and have a lovely garden and we love to eat outside and spend as much time as possible out there when the weather is good. But some times we literally can't hear each other speak. Which is lovely when the kids are trying to tell you about their day.
****s the lots of them. If you want drive/ride like a ****, go to ****ing track you annoying ****s.
Sorry but I feel strongly about this as it actually affects my home life.
When I took it around Europe last year the centre section of the exhaust on my Porsche 924 cracked. Whenever you lifted off the accelerator it popped and banged as petrol went straight out of the back of the engine. Once we'd bodged it up a bit with some mastic, metal sheet and jubilee clips to tone it down a bit it sounded AMAZING. Very antisocial though.
In an old knackered 80's sports car like that I think it sounds pretty cool, but in a Ford Focus RS tootling around a town at 20mph it sounds pretty daft.
We live in the Derbyshire Dales and sporty engine noise is a background noise for about 30 seconds most sunny evenings. I can't say I mind it much.
I think it's daft that new cars like the current Cooper S does this. It's not a race car running rich - it's a sensible hatchback ffs.
A bit of a burble on overrun is fine, the occasional pop in something appropriate is okay too.
Some **** in a 1.4 Corsa he can piss off
my rx8 does it
its childish. I like doing it. Although i do admit it gets annoying (as the guy with the lambo up the road drives me nuts)
Shame people still see cars as "fun" things to mess around with and not just devices to get from A to B, but that's the way it is in this screwed up ol' world.
What will our 2nd hand electric cars be modded to do in the hands of bored young men in the 2nd half of this century?
What do you mean second hand? New cars are already available which play a "brrrrm brrrm" sound through the speakers. Once we have quiet electric cars you'll be able to download sounds like ringtones. Imagine having that Nokia diddle-dee dot diddle-dee dot diddle-dee dot dee coming out of the fake exhaust pipe.
I am occasionally allowed to help service a 1990’s rally car
it has “anti-lag” which kinda injects fuel when you decelerate in case you want speed up again quickly.
If you don’t, the spare fuel gets in to the hot exhaust pipe and goes BANG!
Iirc anti-lag uses an additional injector that squirts neat fuel into the exhaust before the turbo. When you change gear and the flow of gas from the exhaust slows the turbo slows down. The fuel from the anti lag ignites during this lull and reduces the decrease in turbo rotation speeds.
For those who aren't top flight rally drivers it makes a good noise, exhaust flames and reduces the life of your exhaust and turbo significantly.
Had a suitably hooliganish car years ago that did it a lot when it was started from cold.
On a frosty winter morning, a blip of the throttle as I sat warming the car up was usually enough to set off multiple car alarms in my street😳
My KTM and my Cinq do it on overrun - they're just overfuelled. My first Abarth was programmed from the factory to do it at certain shift points. The second one is EU6 compliant so doesn't (well does from 3-4 at 5600, sometimes, if you're very, very quick shifting). Its completely pointless, fairly antisocial and always made me giggle when it does it.
Shame people still see cars as “fun” things to mess around with and not just devices to get from A to B, but that’s the way it is in this screwed up ol’ world.
And of course you've never enjoyed any property as anything other than a tool comrade!
Shame people still see cars as “fun” things to mess around with and not just devices to get from A to B, but that’s the way it is in this screwed up ol’ world.
Of course cars can be fun - to view them solely as a means of transportation is pretty depressing.
Hardly makes it a screwed up 'ol world to think like that. Hey, live a little 🙂
Shame people still see cars as “fun” things to mess around with and not just devices to get from A to B, but that’s the way it is in this screwed up ol’ world.
Shame people see "food" as something to which flavour can be added, as an occasion to enjoy time with bourgeoisie "friends", instead of just a means of providing sustenance to allow the individual to produce for the furtherment of the glorious Mother State.
Been wondering about this, do these cars have to get remapped to pass mot? and standard exhaust fitted then reset to 'tosser' after? do they have to inform insurers? lots of the ones near me seem to be gtd deisels make a hell of a noise and push out thick clouds of black smoke. why would you want to make your car sound like its fkd, blew an exhaust of a car years ago and drove for 2 hrs it was deafening and a bit shit but that on a daily basis no ta
to view them solely as a means of transportation is pretty depressing.
Hardly makes it a screwed up ‘ol world to think like that. Hey, live a little
Cars are awesome, yep. The planet needs more and needs more fun ones. Can't get enough of em. Let's just turn everywhere into roads so people can have their fun.
Cars are awesome, yep. The planet needs more and needs more fun ones. Can’t get enough of em. Let’s just turn everywhere into roads so people can have their fun.
Bloody hell, you sound like a right barrel of laughs.
Just don't get my kicks from cars. Sorry, I always forget I'm on pistonheads.
Just don’t get my kicks from cars. Sorry, I always forget I’m on pistonheads.
Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying we need more cars/build more roads/kill polar bears, etc. But driving can be both a means of transportation and fun at the same time.
To be honest there is nothing more pleasing than the rumble, pops and bangs of a proper petrol engine. I think they sound magnificent.
Of course, seeing the stock Focus 1.4 Zetec with obnoxious exhaust language doesn't quite have the same effect.
I say enjoy for the final few years it'll be around - in the next 10/15/20 years we'll all be on electric, if we're still allowed to drive our own vehicles at all. (automation, transport-as-a-service).
Get it in now folks, it won't be around in a few years.
My Cooper S clubman does it as standard, has a ‘sport’ button which makes it do it more often.
I agree with the above.
On a proper sports car or bike it sounds ace, I’m not a fan of the underpowered drone from bog standard corsa. Making all the noises but going nowhere.
Nothing wrong with being a petrol head.
Can I get that 'Map for my Nissan NV400?
Driving can be fun yes. In theory. I mean, actually moving a car around is good. But there are so many downsides to trying to do it fast in most environments, it's just not worth it.
As for the noise - it's not really a pleasant noise, you just associate it with power and thrills. In 100 years' time when we're all used to blistering performance from electric motors, we'll be waxing lyrical over the whine of a motor and the smell of ozone, and people will wonder why anyone put up with the racket petrol cars make.
Slightly different (laborious) take on horns..
I'm somewhat ambivalent, the bloke who owns our village garage has a 1968 Dodge Challenger, with a sodding great ramcharger sticking out of the bonnet and it makes a rather appealing sound. You can hear it being driven half a mile away, but it's never driven outside of sociable hours so I'm more than happy that it exists.
On the other hand, we've a yoof in our village with some sort of tossermobile that is driven everywhere as though it's on a qualifying lap. I've no idea as to the make and model, as everything is obscured with badly fitted bodykits, spoilers and stickers. It's got the prerequisite farts, pops and pyrotechnics from the exhausts and I'd happily see it crushed.
For those who aren’t top flight rally drivers it makes a good noise, exhaust flames and reduces the life of your exhaust and turbo significantly.
It also tends to melt spark plugs if you're not very careful with it. I've a pal who just blew up his RS4 B5 650+bhp engine all because he missed a gear change whilst he was using the 'flat shift' feature....which works like anti-lag. Basically you can keep your foot hard on the accelerator pedal and then change gears as normal...the ECU recognises that you've hit the clutch so it kills the spark ignition but keeps fuelling the cylinders. If you don't get a snappy gear change...there's a huge amount of unburnt fuel in the system and it can all go horribly wrong.
Anti-lag...well the clue is in the name...it keeps turbo engines from dumping the boost between gear changes. Some like the sound of the piisstt between gear changes (that's the boost being released) and some just like that continual flow of power between gear changes.
My motorbike can shoot flames a good 5 feet out of the exhaust. But if anyone else does it, they’re dicks
Like Northwind...my mid-life crisis S4 B5 also has anti-lag & flat shift tuned into the ECU so if you give it a bit of stick it makes lots of bangs, pops & flames. If you drive the car normally, it sounds like any other car.
When I'm driving it with all those noises it makes me feel like a real man...everyone else who does it, well they're just tools.
Hmmm.. follows with interest....
So, as I've had my Pimp wagon* lowered** and new 'shoes' ***(that's wheels, granddad) put on it, I should now get an aftermarket 'exhaust popping kit' I guess...
DrP
*Octavia 2.0 TDI. In Grey.
** This is true.
*** This is also true. I'm like a child with lots of money....
Bloody hell, you sound like a right barrel of laughs.
More fun than a 'car person’ with their selfish attitude to the queens highway and other road users. Don’t get me wrong I think fast/beautiful/old/interesting cars are are great, but they are a nuisance when driven by cocks on the road. They have their place, the track. that way you drive like a tosser and nobody else suffers from your ignorance.
blouson rally jackets, manufacturer key fobs, names like 'scooby Ben' 'RS John' Cossie Mike' M3 Dave', and a log-in to PistonHeads. All the hallmarks of a car-cock.
The kind of blokes who's idea of conversation is “so what do you drive?” And thinking the answer somehow defines you.
More fun than a ‘car person’ with their selfish attitude to the queens highway and other road users. Don’t get me wrong I think fast/beautiful/old/interesting cars are are great, but they are a nuisance when driven by cocks on the road. They have their place, the track. that way you drive like a tosser and nobody else suffers from your ignorance.
blouson rally jackets, manufacturer key fobs, names like ‘scooby Ben’ ‘RS John’ Cossie Mike’ M3 Dave’, and a log-in to PistonHeads. All the hallmarks of a car-cock.
The kind of blokes who’s idea of conversation is “so what do you drive?” And thinking the answer somehow defines you.
I agree with what you say - my tongue in cheek reply was in response to cars can't be fun.
Fun doesn't mean fast - my most "fun" car was a clapped out 1964 Land Rover. 0-60? It couldn't reach 60 under its own steam unless aided by gravity.
And those who judge on the car you drive? Well judge away as I really don't care.
...and there was I thinking there seemed to be a lot of people with poorly adjusted spark timing, overfuelling and burnt valves...
I understand that James Hunt in his retirement either cycled everywhere or drove an old A35, at least in part because he could drive it with entertaining verve without much fear for his licence. There was a man who gave zero f***s what anyone thought of him or his wheels - top man. 🙂
My mildly-tuned 74' VW camper does it - 1641cc with twin Weber carbs - I wind the window down when driving through sleepy villages and lift-off the accelerator and it pops and bangs quite a lot. Startled a few biddies coming down the hill into Arundel yesterday.
When the knob measuring goes a bit wrong
Ouchy - I guess the effect they were after was more like this;
It just means the engine is running rich . So it's running a bad ecu map, or it's done on purpose to sound loud.
Outside of professional racing it's just fashion really.
A bit like when turbo dump valves were a thing, a really loud "PppppThssssss" after every gear change.
A bit like when turbo dump valves were a thing, a really loud “PppppThssssss” after every gear change.
And still is, with some people. I’m not sure what’s making the bangs, there’s a road past our site, with a roundabout a few yards away and other roads running into other parts of the estate, and I’ve seen a small open-top car going past at some speed which appears to cause the bangs, might be an old MX-5, but there are others doing it. I’ve not noticed it happening in Chippenham, oddly enough.
Did Matt, err... Just post an advert?
My car pops at certain revs and engine loads, it’s embarrassing/pleasing/childish.
Thing is the car is nearly as old as me so has a few foibles. It doesn’t get used much as I only get 200 miles from 80 litres of Shells finest.
Noise wise it’s almost silent compared to the local lads on their peds.
Exhausts should sound like this
Antisocial noise pollution. Loud motorcycle exhausts are a similar problem.
This.
Any vehicle that sounds louder than a sparrow farting should be crushed as the owner watches on, then catches the bus home.
As for motorbikes revving like they’ve got rickets, crush them too except make em’ walk home.
And still is, with some people.
14 year old boys who still wet the bed?
Our old 944 would if being pushed particularly hard.
The silver shed (Octavia) is just a bit loud due to weak standard Flexi joint and a lack of caution across fields and up forest tracks. Mostly weld currently, but still a gap somewhere. Stainless mid-pipe and back box could be quieter, but was cheapest option for the 4x4.
Exhausts should sound like this
TL:DL
Shame people see “food” as something to which flavour can be added, as an occasion to enjoy time with bourgeoisie “friends”, instead of just a means of providing sustenance to allow the individual to produce for the furtherment of the glorious Mother State.
Nearly PMSL
Christ you lot are old.
Where's the under 50s forum.
My old 1997 impreza sti type ra pops and bangs after a good few minutes of full boost. It was mapped to run a little bit rich high up the rev range to help cool the pistons. The removal of the cat helped as well. God I miss that car 330hp in a 1200kg ish car, not much could keep up with it.
Was a thing before but over the last year it seems to have gone really popular. Get a mix round my way, this being rich Surrey, of decent performance cars that are loud but sound nice and loads of really shit cars deliberate backfiring and attempting to wheel spin and donut at the junction down the road.
Last time we went through this it went away, maybe because the cars fell apart or the kids got locked up. Seemed to coincide with the police helicopter not frequenting the nearby estate so much.
I'm pretty sure it's standard feature on hot hatches now.
Back in the day my little AX would do it on a down shift with a throttle blip, young and didn't know better I guess!
