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[Closed] ASDA the jewel Edinburgh do they just not like cyclist?

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Or do they simply not realize that we exist and need somewhere to park our bikes.

My local asda has 2 places to park your bike however they are regularly blocked with trolleys and other crap, however they've decided to take it too a whole new level and have put down decking in front of the cycle racks and are now advertising chairs and other crap for sale.

When I noticed the first bike racks were blocked I checked the second set, only to find them blocked as well, should I complain about this and if I do who is it best to compain too
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Whilst I was there cyclists were turning up and simply looking around baffled, they have to have noticed that cyclist use these racks constantly.

So Asda the jewel Edinburgh you get my asshats of the week award! the bike in the third photo is one of mine 😀


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:38 pm
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What's to complain about, free seating to have your sandwich at.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:40 pm
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and if I do who is it best to compain too (sic)

Store Manager.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:41 pm
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TBF when I go there's 2 bikes there at most.

I'll just lock my bike to the furniture 😀

Didn't know we were neighbours, do you want to come round? Promise not to bully you....much.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:42 pm
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Scotland has been having its 3 day summer this week and it is due to last another day or two and then it will be back to normal weather and the decking and furniture will be gone until the next freak spell of reasonable weather!


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:47 pm
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he has the film ready kaesae
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Posted : 28/03/2012 8:49 pm
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That's funny. I'd be very tempted to lock my bike up strewn across the decking, right in the middle of their little art installation there.

I mean it's obviously a facility for parking bikes in. There's a huge picture of a bike on the side of it! The words 'arse' and 'elbow' come to mind.

Definitely point it out to the store manager. Because in all seriousness, aside from not being very convenient, it's a blatant disregard to cyclists. And it doesn't set a very good example, does it.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:50 pm
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Those shit bike racks are unusable.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:52 pm
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It's descrimination against cyclists, there's only one course of action, we all go in and either start a protest by cycling round the car park slowly or we cycle in the doors grab what ever we want then make for the exits every rider for themselves.

If you're smart you'll take a water gun in a quick draw holster filled with vodka and mouth rinse, get them in the eyes and it works every time.

But that's two courses of action I here the smart arses amongst you say, shurrup!


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:53 pm
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I worked there 10 years ago and was the only person using a bike at the weekends..
Mind you, that big posh canopy wasn't there either!!


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:54 pm
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They should have a customer service desk or representative inside, talk to them, they will take complaints and the store managers are then required to show company management they are effectively dealing with all the stores complaints, at least i think thats how it works.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:55 pm
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It's not a **** ing day centre for fat stupid people!

WTF ARE YOU DOING?

Chaining my bike to your leg, what the **** does it look like.

WHY THE **** ARE YOU DOING THAT.

Going shopping innit!


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:56 pm
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Go upmarket Kasae - cycle the other way to the broad sunlit uplands of Cameron Toll Sainsburys. Loads of bike racks there.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:56 pm
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TBH id be complaining the cycle racks are poor anyway, they should really have those big hoop things. Front wheel racks are so 90's and useless for properly securing your bike (unless you lock it across them like some bikes in your pics)


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:57 pm
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Shocking , did you happen to see 'Pixie' the cat ?. She always cheers me up.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:59 pm
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Lock the furniture to the racks.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 8:59 pm
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should I complain about this

No not at all. Post something on a bike forum and complain there instead.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 9:00 pm
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Is pixie the ginger cat that always hangs about?

I'm raising awareness for this most serious of issues Ernie, is ernie short for Ernest 😯 😆


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 9:02 pm
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Write a letter to their head office in Leeds and post it via royal mail 😉


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 9:10 pm
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Yup thats the one they put a security tag on her to stop her going into the store but It makes no difference , she even has her own facebook page.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 9:15 pm
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Just take your bike in with you.

Pretty sure they will probably not care and if they do you get to make a point.

Our local b n q are cool with it.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 9:17 pm
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Well I was in Scotmid Co-op in Portobello today and a lass was wheeling her bike through the store...must've forgotten her lock I suppose cos although the rack is small there it's never obscured by garden furniture. Maybe try that tactic and when ASDA challenge you you can protest you were raising awareness of this inhumane descrimination!


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 9:21 pm
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Great minds TBC...


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 9:22 pm
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tesco fountainbridge has no cycle parking facilities whatosever, despite the newly paved front and rerouted roadway. i might write a letter. you should too- find the highest ranked director and email them.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 9:23 pm
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You could also consider retracting your custom. Your 'type' are obviously not wanted. Is there not a wee set of shops you could use instead?

MussEd- cosmic.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 9:27 pm
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Is that cycle park covered?

Luxury!


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 9:28 pm
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People of Scotland. Be thankful this wasn't Kaesae's local sorting office or you'd been wiped out as he went thermonuclear.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 9:31 pm
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I think he's been inciting riots up there.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 9:47 pm
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If you're smart you'll take a water gun in a quick draw holster filled with vodka and mouth rinse, get them in the eyes and it works every time.

Nah, lemon juice mixed with hot chili powder.


 
Posted : 28/03/2012 9:53 pm
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People of Scotland. Be thankful this wasn't Kaesae's local sorting office or you'd been wiped out as he went thermonuclear.

Drac don't you have better things to do, like turning a once popular and in touch MTB website / community into an out of touch example of what it means to be naff ❓

The more you change the rules to try and get us to pay to use this forum /website the less of us support you! I may not be a mighty STW goderator with super human powers of cack all, but I am smart enough to understand that!


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 11:25 am
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every time I think "kaesae seems to be doing ok with his bearing business and helping people" a thread like this comes along and

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Posted : 30/03/2012 11:28 am
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This isn't a temporary measure, it's a display, I'm going to contact their head office explain to them that I will be taping the conversation and aks about thier policy toward environmentally friendly transport.

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Posted : 30/03/2012 11:44 am
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Just chain your bike up to the furniture. Probably more secure than those crap racks anyway.


 
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Hey, I just move the chairs and chain my bike up anyway, but a lot of cyclists are coming along then wandering about looking for somewhere else to put thier bikes, seen 5 riders donig that shit already.

Spoke to thier head office and put in a complaint and now I've also spoke to the store and am waiting on a call about it from those responsible later on.

See what happens, anyone else want to call and complain?


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 12:11 pm
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Complain to the planning department at the council. This will be against the planning permissions they have obtained for the store for reasons including store/sales floor sizes and the use of the car parking area. The council should serve an enforcement notice if they don’t remove these.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 12:14 pm
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Good point stocker - the original planning permission the were granted may well have been on the condition that they supported "green travel options" in line with some council scheme or other.


 
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Hello Stocker, I have told asda that I want them removed I have also pointed out that they are against the councils and asda's own policies towards cyclists.

I have made it clear that my next move is to complain to the council about this and get cycling groups involved and that I consider this to be descrimination against a minority group 😉

Thanks for the info though I will make sure and bring it up if I need to take it too the council, lets give them until monday to respond to the request, then if they don't I will pester them some more 😆

Anyone who wants to complain about this outrageous behaviour 😕 can contact the store in questions on 0131 669 9151


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 12:35 pm
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I suggest nip in and buy some white lightning, round up some of edinburgh's finest street boozers and sit them there, maybe even join in.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 1:13 pm
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Hahaha!

Already thought about that, but I'm getting into shape so am on a bevvy diet 😐


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 2:20 pm
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Just got a call from asda and they've said that they will move the decking further out so that there is space to get to the racks and park the bikes.

So that's fair enough!


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 4:02 pm
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Room for a sign/stall for bearing sales?


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 4:04 pm
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Is there room to have, HUMP THIS! tattoo'd on your face!


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 4:06 pm
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If there is no secure bike rack, i would be taking my bike round the store with me....

I Think the management would take notice if all the local cyclists started doing that.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 8:04 pm
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I have to go to the post office and by the time I get there ate say 7pm starting at 7 am I'm not really into pushing my bike, hopefully they will sort it or I will simply get onto the council see what can be done.

Hope everyone has a good weekend, Ridefree!


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 8:15 pm
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The more you change the rules to try and get us to pay to use this forum /website the less of us support you! I may not be a mighty STW goderator with super human powers of cack all, but I am smart enough to understand that!

Ay? What rules is that then?


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 8:33 pm
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Asda's behaviour is just typical of any company that has a monopoly. They get arrogant.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 8:37 pm
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Asda has a monopoly?


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 8:38 pm
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Yes, it's Monopoly is at aisle 5.


 
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Asda has a monopoly?

Oh yes didn't you know?.....

To sell the most rank fruit & veg that if made of wax & old plastic bags would taste the same 😉

Oh and round these parts its "thu Asda"


 
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lock your bike to the electric mobility scooters inside the front door. That'll get you some attention. That crap is going to be outside till August so get used to it, new type directive from ASDA house - fill up any spare outdoor space with awkward "outdoor living" gubbins. we've got 4 massive pallets of compost and a ****in 12ft trampoline to shift in and out as well as all that crap in your pics. There's only 5 0r 6 of those big loop cycle lock things at our store, but they aren't surrounded by crap. yet. If you manage to reclaim the cycle parking space I'll be impressed Kaesae!


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 8:55 pm
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Asda has a monopoly?

Yes,that's why its service is so shite. Urgent government action is needed to change this.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 9:00 pm
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Went to asda today and wasn't surprised too see they're shit talkers as well as inconsiderate ass hats, crap is still there!

Don't see the point in saying it's getting moved when it's not,
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Does anyone else think the coucil we do anything about this?


 
Posted : 31/03/2012 6:19 pm
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do a jobby on it if you feel so strongly


 
Posted : 31/03/2012 6:28 pm
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Maybe it'll take them more than a day and your wishes aren't their priority?


 
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Have you gone mad TBC or have you simply forgotten about DNA 💡

I might get some local jakies too piss on it, could pay them in white lightning 😀

Maybe it will take them more than a day which is why I'm willing too wait until monday before I contact my local council and also one of my local MP's.

That said it does show asda's commitment to being complete and utter bankers and their willingness to descriminate against cyclists and lack of support for environmentally friendly forms of transport.


 
Posted : 31/03/2012 8:53 pm
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discrimination is very close to stupidity and ignorance in all but the dictionary. The irony is no one will have thought about it. Therefore there is no malice towards cyclists.

Perhaps they are barely used an no-one thought it would be a problem.

2 sides n all that.


 
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Kaesae: those two photos are the same.


 
Posted : 31/03/2012 9:34 pm
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Kaesae: those two photos are the same.

Don't be silly! I've found at least ten differences. Do I win a prize?


 
Posted : 31/03/2012 9:38 pm
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LOLs - address please. You just won an inner tube or something of equivalent low value! 😀


 
Posted : 31/03/2012 9:39 pm
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but a lot of cyclists are coming along then wandering about looking for somewhere else to put thier bikes, seen 5 riders donig that shit already.
if you can't find somewhere to improvise locking a bike to, like we all did before bike racks appeared everywhere then you probably shouldn't be wandering round ASDA without your carer.


 
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[url= http://www.thebikechain.co.uk/Surly-XL-Tube-2010101406/ ]One of these low value tubes?[/url]


 
Posted : 31/03/2012 9:50 pm
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Either speak to the gsm (store manager) or call asda house. What's the point in moaning on a forum., if you don't like it then do something about it. Although I seriously doubt there isn't some other piece of street furniture you could lock your bike to.


 
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if you can't find somewhere to improvise locking a bike to, like we all did before bike racks appeared everywhere then you probably shouldn't be wandering round ASDA without your carer.

Like a bollard or something! 🙄
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We didn't get the Great in Great Britain by giving up so easily...


 
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Maybe it will take them more than a day which is why I'm willing too wait until monday before I contact my local council and also one of my local MP's.

Excellent show of patience there ..matched only by your waits for the PO?

Fingers crossed they get an emergency team in Sunday to dismantle it.
I am not sure they need planning for that decking as it has no foundations so i am not sure what you expect the council to do...out of interest what do you expect them to do?


 
Posted : 31/03/2012 9:57 pm
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bruneep - if he has a Pug then that's what he gets.


 
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I am not sure they need planning for that decking as it has no foundations so i am not sure what you expect the council to do...out of interest what do you expect them to do?

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pebblebeach truth


 
Posted : 31/03/2012 10:32 pm
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I was in tesco at hermiston gate the other evening with post pentland ride munches. There was no bike racks there either nor at halfords and decathlon next door but they all sell bikes. Odd!


 
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You have the internet so why not do home shopping, and then you don't have to worry about such insignificant things again...

Mind you there is the fact that public toilets never have bike racks, now that's worth annoying a few people about and taking up their time that could be better spent doing other things


 
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Moving the display out won't happen...if they move it out enough to use the bike rack as designed, it will block the pavement, giving pedestrians the choice of using the road, or pushing the bikes in the rack out of the way.


 
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Beats me why you're shopping there in the first place.


 
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It's not the issue of needed planning permission for the decking it's the use of the bike store as additional retail floorspace which I am sure there will be conditions limiting the gross/net floor space for retail uses. There are probably other conditions limiting the use of the car park and travel options. The council will serve enforcement notice if you ring up enforcement and it is against the approved plans and legal agreements.


 
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It's not the issue of needed planning permission for the decking it's the use of the bike store as additional retail floorspace which I am sure there will be conditions limiting the gross/net floor space for retail uses.

Yep - when ASDA was granted permission to build a supermarket the council probably stipulated conditions such as the number of disabled spaces, support for public transport options, recycling bins, [u]cycle parking[/u] etc

If that is the case and ASDA are shown to be violating those conditions then the council [i]could[/i] act (though knowing Edinburgh council, it won't).


 
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As already stated asda agreed to move the decking on thursday night, not that the fact matters to the keyboard warriors that frequent this website.

Thanks for the input shocker and graham s, too often in the united kingdumb this kind of crap is made light off, which is why it gets more shit living here by the day.

The managers of that shop are well out of order doing this and have been told as much, maybe they will not have to move it, but I have to try and get it moved.


 
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Good on you for trying kaesae. Yes there are bigger issues in the world, but that doesn't mean the smaller ones should just slide.

Have you considered bringing it up with [url= http://www.spokes.org.uk/ ]Spokes[/url]?


 
Posted : 02/04/2012 12:27 pm
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Thanks for the input shocker and graham s, too often in the united kingdumb this kind of crap is made light off, which is why it gets more shit living here by the day.

The managers of that shop are well out of order doing this and have been told as much, maybe they will not have to move it, but I have to try and get it moved.

If I felt like you I would be putting my efforts into moving to a utopian land where everything is better than here rather than worrying about the decking at ASDA meaning you have to park your bike perpendicular to the original intention of the bike stand. But then I like to actually change things that I am unhappy with rather than just complain!


 
Posted : 02/04/2012 2:42 pm
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But then I like to actually change things that I am unhappy with rather than just complain!

So is talking to ASDA management not attempting to "actually change things" then?

Seems a bit more sensible than moving countries in a huff.


 
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Your ASDA store may have agreed to move the stuff but it is the porters that have to shift it in and out, and there are different people on each morning, and my experience is there is little communication down to the monkeys doing the job. Talk to one of the trolley pushers in Hi vis and ask 'em what they've been told..


 
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So is talking to ASDA management not attempting to "actually change things" then?
talking to ASDA is sensible yes, expecting them to fix it instantly is probably unrealistic (afterall how much does the average person arriving by bike spend in their store, and how many people arrive by bike - it isn't going to be high up the priority list). Moaning about it on here is a bit pointless.
Seems a bit more sensible than moving countries in a huff.
except that this [s]minor inconvenience[/s]"well out of order" behaviour by ASDA is just one example of "why it gets more shit living here by the day". If you really believe its that bad (and lets face it if its taken several days to have no effect on ASDA he has no chance on fixing the rest of society, then get on your bike and go somewhere where the grass is greener.


 
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