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  • eskay
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    Anyone else’s blood boil when they read about this joker and yet another ruling in his favour today?

    These terrorists are very keen all of a sudden to play the human rights card when it suits them. It is kind of ironic that he hates the west yet he is fighting tooth and nail to stay here.

    Send him packing on the first plane out of here. If he gets tortured then unlucky, should have thought about that pal.

    glupton1976
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    Is he fighting tooth and nail to stay here because he’ll be killed if the send him to Jordan?

    An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.

    Junkyard
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    yes as we are a better and fairer system and society then surely the best way to show this is to ignore the rules and send him somwhere where his rights wont be protected and he gets tortured.
    I mean it shows we are the good guys right

    Premier Icon wwaswas
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    I’m in the ‘the law should apply equally to everyone’ camp; being an odious shit stirrer does not mean that you should get treated differently by the judiciary.

    The key thing is whether it is acceptable to use evidence obtained by torture in a trial. My view is that it isn’t. The evidence is unreliable and why should we make physically harming someone to get them to tell a story as an acceptable thing to do under any circumstances?

    Premier Icon Coyote
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    Much as I despise him and his ilk, I have to agree with the posters above.

    mashiehood
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    well, he has seen off 6 home secretaries and there is no point is continuing to waster tax payers money on this, until he is committed of an actual crime……..

    clubber
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    What we need to do is have a sliding scale of rules and rights. For those of us who are in the ‘right/ok’ category, the full letter and protection of the law applies.

    You then reduce those rights depending on how much you dislike the people you’re applying them to.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    Premier Icon binners
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    Just ignore him. Its clear he just thrives off every foaming-at-the-mouth pantomime villain headline in the Mail. If everyone collectively shrugged and just got on with things, that would be worse than being sent back to Jordan for him

    wrecker
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    Thing is; it costs us a fortune to monitor him. He does need monitoring mind you, he’s a very naughty extremist.

    Premier Icon wwaswas
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    Paragraph 37 of the judgement actually says what Jordan would need to do to allow Britain to complete his extradition.

    http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/othman-approved-27313.pdf

    so it’s quite clear he *can* be extradited.

    Klunk
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    you’ve got to love DM readers it’s all Brussels fault 🙂

    Ter is ONE solution, we leave the EU. Vote UKIP

    glenp
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    Can anyone actually give an example of this hatred that he preaches? I’ve never seen any reported – we are just expected to take at face value that he is a “terrorist”?

    brakes
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    I would suggest that a Code of Common Sense be created and passed that supersedes all of the other “Codes of” that are designed to protect the rights of the common man but end up being flagrantly abused by terror-whores such as Abu Hooky-hand, or whatever his name is this week.

    meh.

    WackoAK
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    The best bit from the BBC article on it…

    “Abu Qatada has never been charged with an offence in the UK.”

    duckman
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    “Abu Qatada has never been charged with an offence in the UK.”

    True, but they might be some reason why he has a large number of Police and special branch following him around, and it isn’t because he drops litter.

    clubber
    Member

    Is it because he’s black?

    grum
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    Anyone else’s blood boil when they read about this joker

    Nope, can’t read his name now without doing it to the tune of Hakuna Matata from the Lion King (since someone suggested it on some comedy thing a while ago). Try it 🙂

    wrecker
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    abooooo qaaaaaatadaaaaaa……….it means no worries

    LIKE

    rogerthecat
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    Agree with the first posts.
    So, let him stay but explain very clearly that one step or word out of line and all bets are off, first class airfare to Jordan.
    That or someone go and explain to Jordan in simple terms whay they need to do to comply.

    Premier Icon wwaswas
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    rogerthecat, this is what Jordan need to do. Basically not use the evidence from the two tortured men in a trial.

    “The Secretary of State has not satisfied us that, on a retrial, there is no real risk that the impugned statements of Abu Hawsher and Al-Hamasher would be admitted probatively against the appellant. Until and unless a change is made to the Code of Criminal Procedure and/or authoritative rulings are made by the Court of Cassation or Constitutional Court which establish that statements made to a public prosecutor by accomplices who are no longer subject to criminal proceedings cannot be admitted probatively against a returning fugitive and/or that it is for the prosecutor to prove to a high standard that the statement were not procured by torture, that real risk will remain.”

    loum
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    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=marc_v4FaT8[/video]

    IHN
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    Nope, can’t read his name now without doing it to the tune of Hakuna Matata from the Lion King

    Or indeed, his name instead of ‘ave a banana, as in

    “Oops! Abu Qataaaada!”

    It should be a condition of his stay here that he wears a bright yellow tabard with the words “Here Courtesy Of Christianity, An Islamic Country Wants me Dead” on one side and “Mohammed Couldn’t Prophesy The Result Of A Scotland Game ” on the back.

    chewkw
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    Crikey … he is still around!? 😯

    crankboy
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    There is a theory that “cat flap” May is deliberatly losing this one repeatedly so as to whip up the morons into an anti Europe froth so she can do away with the Human Rights act etc in due course .To eskay what is so wrong with the prohibition on torture and the rule of law?

    patriotpro
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    Part of his agenda is to have Sharia-Law, or is that another muppet…

    Anyway, he should be dealt with by way of Sharia-Law. It’s what allah would want.

    Premier Icon wwaswas
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    he should be dealt with by way of Sharia-Law.

    well he’s done nothing wrong in this country under that law either so maybe we should just leave him alone?

    patriotpro
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    in this country

    Argh, that’s ok then intit 😛

    Premier Icon wwaswas
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    well, if you have evidence that wasn’t gained by attaching electrodes to someones scrotum then I’m sure Teresa May will want to see it.

    Premier Icon zippykona
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    Could we make it public knowledge that he thinks Putin is a pansy?
    Should be enough for him to ” commit suicide”.

    mashiehood
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    i think the OP might be a tad disappointed by the responses to his post…..

    eskay
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    No, just expressing my opinion.

    I think the yanks have the right attitude to these type of characters.

    But I would also like to see the death penalty reintroduced!

    mashiehood
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    ‘these types of characters’ you mean people classified as ‘unlawful combatants’ assumed to be guilty, without a trial, held captive in a penal colony who live in a nightmarish world of indefinite detention without a trial.

    Denial of human freedom is torture; denial of any sense of when that torture ends adds a whole new barbarous dimension of cruelty.

    What an excellent world you dream of!!!

    glenp
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    OK, so I googled – he is accused of various crimes, nearly all to do with saying things. Some of them amount to incitement to murder and to rise up and take arms, which are illegal in an ordinary mainstream sense without specialist terrorism legislation. So – if they were true then he would be tried and convicted of those crimes. But he isn’t?

    I find that the very people who are in favour of summarily imprisoning or even of just murdering him are the same ones who have the least idea about what he is accused of. Which basically means they are racists who want to kill bearded foreigners because they don’t see them as being as human as everyone else.

    wrecker
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    I don’t want him murdered or summarily imprisoned.
    He is a foreign national who has taken the piss out the UK for long enough. I want him gone. Don’t care where, I don’t want to read about him and I definitely don’t want to pay for him, his accommodation or legal bills. Nothin to do with his colour/race/whatever or penchant for facial hair.

    glenp
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    OK, sorry. Some of the people who want him gone…

    Premier Icon zippykona
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    Why is he shacked up with us infidels anyway?
    I’m sure there are other countries that would be more to his taste.

    watsontony
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    I think it would be nice if he just went away. dont care where just away. Dont enjoy listening on the news how much we are getting the piss taken out of us.

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