And if you come over and “stay with family” then they must also isolate.

And by isolate I mean stay in their house and don’t go out – even for food.

I.E. get food deliveries, no outside, at. all.

The rules are so simple and so clear the only reason for asking, IMO, is that you’re already looking for ways to break them.

What do you need to do that *absolutely cannot* be done over a video conference or, if physical work, by paying someone?

You should self-isolate in one place for the full 14 days, where you can have food and other necessities delivered, and stay away from others. You must self-isolate at the address you provided on the public health passenger locator form.

This can include:

your own home
staying with friends or family
a hotel or other temporary accommodation

The people you’re staying with do not need to stay at home, unless they travelled with you.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-how-to-self-isolate-when-you-travel-to-the-uk/coronavirus-covid-19-how-to-self-isolate-when-you-travel-to-the-uk

You should self-isolate in one place for the full 14 days, where you can have food and other necessities delivered, and stay away from others. You must self-isolate at the address you provided on the public health passenger locator form.

direct quote from the .gov page on it …. what did he miss?

This can include:

your own home
staying with friends or family
a hotel or other temporary accommodation
You should not have visitors, including friends and family, unless they are providing:

emergency assistance
care or assistance, including personal care
medical assistance
veterinary services
certain critical public services
You cannot go out to work or school or visit public areas. You should not go shopping. If you require help buying groceries, other shopping or picking up medication, you should ask friends or relatives or order a delivery.

it then elaborates with that .

id think airport comes under the broad guidance of public area.

I too am intrigued to know what business stuff you plan to do whilst in insolation that could not be done over the phone/zoom etc. You can’t be visiting a site, having a face to face meeting with a solicitor or business partners etc. Intriguing.

However….it’s not really quarantine in any meaningful way is it? You get to wherever you are going by your choice of route, bumping into whoever you bump into at the car hire place or taxi or train, the petrol station, the toilet. Then you can quarantine in a house with others who are free to go about their normal life. And all the while no one is going be physically checking up on you. Ever. We’re not very good at this in comparison say to the Chinese.

So I’d just crack on – most folk appear to have given up social distancing when it’s inconvenient, most people are happy to share photos of themselves getting it wrong on social media(so there is clearly no social pressure to get it right) or drop their teenage kids off at parties that they know will go far beyond all guidance. So why even bother? Do what you need to do and wander off back to Spain when you need to.

It is the case that you can enter the UK, self-isolate (travel directly to the place you will self-isolate, preferably not by public transport) and then leave again before 14 days is up (again travelling directly to the airport). But then I agree with the sentiment – what can you do in that situation that you can’t do from Spain? You are physically in the UK but not leaving the home of your family and keeping 2 m from them (use separate cutlery, crockery, towels etc; ideally eat in your room)? Also note there are marginally different self-isolation guidance regarding contact in each of the devolved nations. Of course, if you develop coronavirus symptoms you should be prepared to stay put for a further 10 days (in England; may be different in other nations) before you travel back and your family will have to isolate for 14 days.

My next door neighbours were in Spain when the rule changed. The 19 yr old daughter was due to fly off again a few days after getting back. (Italy I think)
They decided to publicly discuss this on Facebook. The final advice I think was as above- she would have been allowed to leave the country again within 14 days as long as travelled direct to departure airport etc. Italy has no problem with people arriving from Spain I believe. My suggestion would have been go from Spain to Italy directly. In the end she is still here so maybe cancelled the trip.
So I think that flying in for a week and out again is probably not going to land anyone in trouble.
Personally I think getting on a plane or even visiting an airport at all this summer is one of the higher risk activities you could choose to do so I would want to avoid it all costs

Sorry to hear the reason Devash and yes that is within the legislation, you would have no problem entering the UK for 7 days and then leaving again.

Basically you can head back sooner than 14 days, but obviously straight to the airport etc.

Good luck sorting everything out.

I do wonder how much more people will be happy to have their civil liberties impinged before they say enough is enough.

Yes I ‘ll be in uk mid Sep so expect to self isolate for 2 weeks, then go about my business. I think I am more at risk in uk than here in Spain, as in spin am effectively self isolating in a remote villa.

Apparently 20% of self isolators in uk are getting a follow up call, my uk phone is an old 2g so no location, but I ‘ll do what I’m told.

My biggest fear is getting stuck in UK if it all kicks off again.

…so, clear potential covid spreader right there, asking if he might actually get fined/pulled up by plod.

People need to get off their virtue signaling high horse and think a bit more rationally.

Couldn’t agree more.
Poverty kills
Mental health issues kill
Untreated cancer and heart conditions kill
Social isolation and confinement affects mental and physical well-being and is a breeding ground for abuse and neglect
People are suffering from closed access to health and other services

I’ve seen ardent socialists advocating those medically unable to wear masks being banned from public places without actually understanding the underlying purpose is to protect from the wearer not to protect the wearer from others.

Let’s also come to terms with the idea that the economy is not a mythical evil beast that’s just something to make BoJo richer (although I’m sure it does) it funds all the other public services through generation of tax but it’s also in part the supply chain to public services and the way by which lots of us (try to) feed and clothe our families. Look at the redundancy numbers coming through in retail, leisure and tourism…

Let’s have a grown up debate not trot out tropes.

Before anyone questions my motives we’ve had a very close call in the family with a fit, healthy 40 something spending over 3 weeks ventilated and my family is full of medics and front line NHS staff. I’m under no illusion what a nasty piece of work Covid is but I’m also under no illusions as to the fact it doesn’t exist in isolation.

Sorry OP I should have added that I hope you sort your situation. After a recent non Covid death in the family I appreciate how difficult being at a distance can be with all the restrictions.

Hope you find a way to do what you need and ignore the rude and judgemental lot who’ve got hot under the collar and had a pop with or without their facts straight.

The life of the cancer patient who has had their treat postponed? The life of the guy who works in the restaurant who now has no job and no prospect of getting one? The guy who can’t access the mental health care he needs, so takes his own life.

Who’s life do you think is more important?

Also whats the number of Covid deaths in the UK you would consider acceptable before the groups of people mentioned should have priority?

People need to get off their virtue signaling high horse and think a bit more rationally.

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Couldn’t agree more.
Poverty kills
Mental health issues kill
Untreated cancer and heart conditions kill
Social isolation and confinement affects mental and physical well-being and is a breeding ground for abuse and neglect
People are suffering from closed access to health and other services

I’ve seen ardent socialists advocating those medically unable to wear masks being banned from public places without actually understanding the underlying purpose is to protect from the wearer not to protect the wearer from others.

Let’s also come to terms with the idea that the economy is not a mythical evil beast that’s just something to make BoJo richer (although I’m sure it does) it funds all the other public services through generation of tax but it’s also in part the supply chain to public services and the way by which lots of us (try to) feed and clothe our families. Look at the redundancy numbers coming through in retail, leisure and tourism…

Let’s have a grown up debate not trot out tropes.

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