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11 Speed Question
philwarren11
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Looking to go XT 11 speed soon with a 38t chainring and a 11-42t cassette.

Question is with this large range would I need a long cage instead of a usual medium cage rear mech for a typical 10 speed 11-36/32t setup?

Posted 8 years ago

njee20
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No. If using single ring then a GS cage mech will be fine.

Big chain ring though, you sure about that?

Posted 8 years ago

philwarren11
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Thanks.

Not far off same ratio as a 32/36 to climb in and I’d probably ok with a 34t on a 10 speed if I had one.

Gives me loads extra when pinning it! 🙂

Posted 8 years ago

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njee20
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I’d still reconsider myself. Unless you do a lot on the road, or pedal down fireroads you won’t use 38/11 much. Stick with a 36 I say. Assuming 26″ wheels too. I’d go smaller than that if they’re bigger.

Posted 8 years ago

philwarren11
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Why?

Even if i don’t use 38/11 much it’ll give me a better chain line for the majority of descents I do along with getting more chain tension because i’ll be up the cassette.

Yeah 26″.

I do a lot of uplifts and im living in 32/11 and often spin out at places like BPW.

Posted 8 years ago

njee20
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Why? Best chain line should be middle of the block… Your choice obviously, just an unusual one, but you’re clearly aware of that.

Posted 8 years ago

ferrals
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To be fair, doesn’t seem outrageous, I’m almost certainly going to go 36t on 650b wheels and isn’t the rule of thumb to drop 2 teeth as you go up a wheel size

Posted 8 years ago

njee20
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Guess I’m spoiled with the 10t on SRAM. I did run a 36 on 1×10, but that was a bit tall in a couple of places, and I only used 36-11 on the road.

Posted 8 years ago

mikewsmith
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Got a 36 still in the packet, used the 34 and mow on 32 while I get fitness back… this is where the SRAM 10t kicks in to expand the range both ends.

Numbers here if you want to be sure…

Posted 8 years ago

ahwiles
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ferrals – Member

isn’t the rule of thumb to drop 2 teeth as you go up a wheel size

that works well for 26->29, but you’d only need to ‘drop’ 1 tooth to correct for a 650b…

fwiw, i can just about cope with 32/36 as a climbing gear on my 29er, and i’m a scrawny pathetic weakling.

Posted 8 years ago

philwarren11
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Its all about ratios.
As stated i’m more than comfortable climbing in 32t chainring and 36t cassette, i could swap to a 34t chainring and would be ok.

What i would like is more gears top end. So if i keep the climbing ratio the same, which im happy with it would be:

32/36 10 speed setup is 0.88888
38/42 11 speed setup is 0.90476

Be hard pressed to tell the difference.

But what it does give me is on the descents, obviously an entire gear. So in some where descents are slower ill be further up the cassette closer to a straight chain line and more tension on the chain.

Its places like BPW where im averaging over 20-25mph on the descents this would be perfect for.

Posted 8 years ago

ferrals
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Guess I’m spoiled with the 10t on SRAM. I did run a 36 on 1×10, but that was a bit tall in a couple of places, and I only used 36-11 on the road.

Yeah I am still considering making the switch to an xd driver, but I do find the 36-42 jump too big on my current expanded 10sp so like the idea of the xt 37t. I’ve taken the expander out for now and can manage all but one of the steepest techiest local climbs with 34fr 36rear which is harder than 36fr 42 rear.

I’ve spun out a fair few times off-road on 34-11, not on interesting bits admittedly but I think racing it would be useful to have the 36.

Posted 8 years ago