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But you can burn the same amount of calories by mixing things up. If you must do the 5-2 then just do steady endurance stuff on the 2 fasting days (which will burn the fat without causing you to bonk) and save the races for days when you can fuel properly before and after.
That way, when you do race, you'll have the mojo to really perform at your best.
Bailing out and losing motivation is just your body's way of telling you what you are doing isn't working. When you're properly fuelled, you can dig deeper and retain the passion.
Fair call.
Poopscoop- is it only during your Zwift night time? It looks like a reflection from your virtual lights. I don't ever see it because my computer isn't good enough for ultra setting so I don't get the lights.
crosshair - MemberPoopscoop- is it only during your Zwift night time? It looks like a reflection from your virtual lights. I don't ever see it because my computer isn't good enough for ultra setting so I don't get the lights.
Actually, no, see it during the daytime too. Odd eh?
crosshair - MemberBut you can burn the same amount of calories by mixing things up. If you must do the 5-2 then just do steady endurance stuff on the 2 fasting days (which will burn the fat without causing you to bonk) and save the races for days when you can fuel properly before and after.
That way, when you do race, you'll have the mojo to really perform at your best.
Bailing out and losing motivation is just your body's way of telling you what you are doing isn't working. When you're properly fuelled, you can dig deeper and retain the passion.
I know what you mean mate but I think weeksy has his way of doing things. I can relate to that with by battle with weight and fitness too.
I just stick to what works for me and logic be damned if you see what I mean? lol
I can see from both points of view but i would say crosshair makes a compelling arguement. We all know how zwift sucks you in and makes you go flat out so i am not sure zwifting on fasting days or immediately after is the best way. May be for those days just do a workout to keep you ticking along. As far as diets are concerned we can all talk till we are blue in the face but its best to pick the one that suits you and your lifestyle and if that is 5-2 then so be it.
Poopscoop - i think my race this morning was probably more to do with stubborness than anything else. It certainly wasnt guts as i think i spewed them up with my lungs with 3km to go.
Next ride for me is the gentle spin with Nathb on sunday morning for an hour.
Bugger it I'm in for the TFC D race. So what's the general idea, balls out at the start and see what groups form?
Expect to come at the back but someone has to come last!
It also says any bike so I've gone for TT and 50mm wheels as that's the best I can make at level 6!
The TT bike doesn't draft!!! Ditch for the TFC bunch race 🙂
Saw a lot of STW in the 19.05 crit!
No idea if I came last!b 😀
I also saw people using power ups, i didntr use mine thought they were banned from this one? 🙂
Crosshair - realised that as soon as I started and couldn't draft. Ended up riding majority on my own but trying to keep racers behind, other than start didn't get overtaken once and don't think I was last!!!
Overall loved it and with a different bike may have been easier to keep with a bunch as I did catch a couple but couldn't stay with them.
The top 11 finished on over 2.5w/kg so may be DQ??
Poop - what's your name on zwift?
That 19.05 was fun.
Thought I was going to fail miserably as I was still eating chicken and chips whilst logging in with 5 minutes to go....
Think I am the first sub 2.5 D, so we might have a STW winner!
Must do a few more races, have just been using Zwift for Sub-2 fat burners and a few workouts.
rocco
Poop - what's your name on zwift?
Something like F Finbod STW or there abouts, what was yours bud?
Will add you on zwift.
[b]harry too[/b]
Whats your tag on zwift mate, want to add yo also.
Sorry if I didn't return any ride ones to anmyone, I can only do it after the ride... as I cant use keyboard to give an individual ride on to another rider.
Sitting on PC with fan right next to me, bliss.,,
LOL - Just been doing some stalking on the zwift app & followed one or two STWers. Noticed that Weeksy wasn't on my list. How rude of me - expect loads of random thumbing ( 😯 ) from me in future weeksy !
Poopscoop - looks like you bagged 8th,good work.
Well done to the others too, good to see a few stw names in there.
... and poopscoop - you're on a meteoric rise matey. Cat C forced u[grade next time round ??
Guessing that Harry too is Steve [b]RAMSDEN[/b]* ?!
Damn, I'm good - should've been a copper 🙂
Looks like the results are sorted, third in genuine D will do. Pretty chuffed with that.
Need to look out for another one of those.
Edit to confirm SP is correct......
Great performances lads. Enjoy the beer and crisps etc
Im up to 5th now, they've had a purge on ZPower. lol
NOT boasting, just happy not to be last. Again. I thought I was as there were so many riders and so much dust in the air I didnt know where the heck I was most of the time.
Bladder, have I added you on zwift?
As for C grade.... I need to be careful I think. I want and need to stay at D to be honest. On a longer/ hillier ride I would have been toat.... ala Richmond where I placed last. 😉
I went off like a little N Korean rocket ship at the start.
Then fell apart, again like a N Korean rocket test, after about 200 metres and everyone caught up/ passed me.
Learnt another few lessons in that race. Still finding drafting hard. I either over cook it and overtake or, more often, fall off the back...
Burnt over 500 calories and will be cashing that in tomorrow. 😉
Oh, what are the white peaks on this chart please?
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Seems a classic tactic to attack the bunch in the middle of that section - sneaky ****ers !so much dust in the air I didnt know where the heck I was most of the time
Oh, and I reckon those white bits might be the max/min of a 3 second average or something like that. Err, maybe
Lee Robinson 2.85 w/kg
going, going, .... ?
PoopscoopSomething like F Finbod STW or there abouts, what was yours bud?
Will add you on zwift.
P. Drewery, I came 11th. Happy with that as it was basically a 21km timetrial. Will need better tactics next time with different bike and nailing it at the start.
This could get a bit addictive 😀
scaredypants - Memberso much dust in the air I didnt know where the heck I was most of the time
Seems a classic tactic to attack the bunch in the middle of that section - sneaky **** !
Damn it that really is beautifully sneaky isnt it? I've got so much to learn still.
rocco
P. Drewery, I came 11th. Happy with that as it was basically a 21km timetrial. Will need better tactics next time with different bike and nailing it at the start.This could get a bit addictive
Cheers mate, added you on Strava and on zwift. I think.
Anyway...
Not riding tomorrow but on Sunday i'll either give the mountain loop a shot (ouch my knees) or look for a shortish race. Ie under 20 miles preferably. What you guys riding on Sunday, if at all of course?
Hey Weeksy
I was sorry to read about you hitting the wall.
FWIW as a (once reasonably handy) broken ex runner I know how that feels.
What I learned is that you need a decent aerobic base to be able to race with any regularity as anaerobic efforts are otherwise not sustainable.
Regular aerobic efforts also help with weight loss as you can go longer more regularly without breaking yourself.
Perhaps you could look at doing some group rides maybe with a short after party or those that have a short race to the finish at the end to give you the race rush. Another thing you could do is enter a race but do say a 70% of FTP effort with a bit of a sprint at the end or maybe decide to draft for some D grade guys. There are plenty of ways to mix it up.
Anyway hopefully you come up with a plan that works for you.
Cheers
Good work to all the cat Ds yesterday. I also went off too quick and fell away early. Had about 8 pints by 6pm and was asleep by 8pm. I got the reminder at 6.30 about the race, but just laughed at how I was silly enough to consider that a Friday post work drink was going to be just a couple of pints and off home 😆
My lad was playing a football tournament today, so I dropped him off and went exploring on the Parkwood. 55km of back roads and lanes later, I was back to see him storming goal. Lol
Lovely ride though
aaaaAAAAARRRGH !!!!
Just finished a race, 4 laps of the flat course. Dropped by the lead bunch on the "climb" on lap 2; minute ahead of the next bunch so TT'd it home. Nearly quit, heart wasn't in it. Was caught by one of the bunch behind & pipped on the line. Turns out that was the race for "B" gold, once the riders ahead had been bumped up (fist of iron in the judging; one of them was at 4.0 w/kg!).
silver, meh
😉
Scaredypants i hate it when that happens, several times i have finished fourth not realising i was in with a chance of a trophy. Good result though and your HR was far less than the winner.
Nice one weeksy and weeksy jnr, sounds like you both had a good morning.
Lol blader - my HR can't go much higher (171 abs max). I pushed hard up the hill last time round when they were catching me; it's not like he just caugh me dozing
Have to say, it's great to have bigger fields again
I agree, the bigger fields means less chance of having to do long periods of solo riding.
Sneaked a cat win in the 17:05 1 lap flat today. Actually 5th over the line but 4 above me got upgraded.
Not got the fitness/too fat to do any good in longer races at the moment.
DId the 1:10pm ODivaZ Watopia Hilly race today, still waiting for zwift power to update to settle the field and bup the B riders up to A cat but think I managed 8th today. Not sure I'll do more races once Zwift Academy ends, find them a bit super intense and make me feel quite ill on the run upto them too. I know they're good for my fitness but not sure it's worth the pressure!
See y’all at 8:30am for the 103km group ride? 😆
2-3w/kg
Nah, skate park action with the boy tomorrow morning sorry. Great idea though.
Too fast for me Nath.
I've never done a race/ride on there before, so I'll give it a go. B.Hill (STW/MSFT), very pink at the moment.
I couldnt make it this morning so just did a bit of zwift stalking and handed out a few ride ons for encouragement, well done guys,good grouping judging by the times on ZP.
Oh dear - felt a bit like the drunk uncle at a wedding there !
Late, unsuitably dressed, kept taking wrong turns (seems remarkably hard to get back onto the right road)
Eventually just carried on after another error. Hope you all got a good ride in
I swear I was only day-dreaming for a second or two and bam, I got dropped by the group. It's all these keen folk coming back to Zwift for the winter.
I enjoyed that, even managed to get a screenshot of 4 of us together.
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