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The incorrect use is pretty bad these days.
So is that sentence.
There's a couple of signs near me that make my blood boil every time I drive past them. I'll try and get some pics next time I pass.
Hmmmm
Do you mean
"The incorrect usage of these words is ibecoming more frequent" ? 😉
Unless you are saying using them incorrectly has become more of a sin?
And I think usage is better than use as a noun in your sentence...
"The incorrect usage of these words is [u][b]i[/b][/u]becoming more frequent" ?
😀
There[b]'s[/b] a couple of signs near me
There [b]is[/b] a couple of signs? 🙄
Yes yes, I know. (-:
Generally I type how I speak. For example, "owt" and "nowt" aren't correct English, but they creep into my typing sometimes. So, I'd like to attribute that one to colloquial language rather than ignorance if I may.
I don't profess to having perfect language skills, point is that I wouldn't write a half-storey banner sign with the same abandon that I'd write a post on a forum.
You've got to be kidding. Of all the worlds trouble and strife, the odd spelling mistake "makes your blood boil". You've obviously got little else to worry about. 😕
(You've obviously got little else to worry about.)this 😯
You are both familiar with literary concepts such hyperbole, yes?
Thanks for your productive and erudite contribution to the discussion, though.
Your welcome! 😛
I definately find people using your alot more now than I would of a few years back.
FTW
I definately find people using your alot more now than I would of a few years back. FTW
Would [i]have[/i].
There is no such word as alot.
🙂
Who cares ? was only important in days of [s]your[/s] [s]ewer[/s] yaw
I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse.
I had to help my uncle jack off a horse.
[i]Who cares ? was only important in days of your ewer yaw [/i]
Where to start? 😉
In summary;
1) no space before the ?
2) capital 'w' for Was.
3) 'Yore' - Yaw is what aeroplanes and helicopters have.
4) full stop at the end.
Of all the worlds trouble and strife, the odd spelling mistake "makes your blood boil". You've obviously got little else to worry about.
But surely that's the whole point ?
There is enough misery in the world without plying on further misery with the incorrect application of your and you're.
It makes me thoroughly depressed.
🙁
(You've obviously got little else to worry about.)this 😯
Who cares ?
I think you should, especially if you've got any pride. It's quite sad when people thinnk it's cool to demonstrate how badly educated they are.
Of all the worlds trouble and strife, the odd spelling mistake "makes your blood boil". You've obviously got little else to worry about.
How many of these worlds are there? 😀
For myself it's a question of professional pride, what with me being an English teacher an' all.
It's quite sad when people thinnk it's cool to demonstrate how badly educated they are.
Do people really thinnk that ? How ghastly 😐
thinnk
?
🙄
Generally I type how I speak. For example, "owt" and "nowt"
Incidentally, this forum will not let you say 'Summ-at' (without the dash...) as in when you say,'I want a cup of tea or summ-at', It auto-corrects it to 'Something'.. Highly annoying when one is trying to use [s]colloak[/s] [s]culloqu[/s] [s]colloquie[/s] ways that regional people speak.
Look, I'll do it now... - something
See?
Do people really think that?
I have no idea ernesto, people definitely appear to be quite proud if it, especially if they can't be ar5ed improve and react against corrections so strongly.
The Americanisation of the language would indicate an element of coolness too.
WWaW:
1) Never ! - I don't like the way it looks (exclamation marks, even worse)
2) Your 😐 lucky you got one at the start
3) That was what passes for a joke in my house 🙁
4) C.B.A.
How many of these worlds are there?
Listen smartarse. I might forget the odd apostrophe, but I know the difference between your and you're - I can write proper posh stuff..
And btw write "EDIT" when you edit.
And btw write "EDIT" when you edit.
You could always slow down a bit, couldn't you?
[i]There's a couple of signs near me[/i]There is a couple of signs?
There [b]are[/b] a couple of signs
You could always slow down a bit, couldn't you?
I haven't got time to slow down. Double-dip recession, people using your and you're in the wrong context ..... too many issues to sort out and too little time.
There is enough misery in the world without plying on further misery with the incorrect application of your and you're.
You should have put "your" and "you're" in quotes.
I blame modern technology for all of these problems. The younger generation are encouraged to use short cuts in communication by SMS, Twitter etc.
Bring back the cane in school!
I haven't got time to slow down.
Accepted, best let you get on and sought out the problems. 😉
Some posters went up around campus this week saying, "Have the skills to help other students?". The pedant in me wants to set them on fire.
There is a couple of signs?
Surely a couple is singular? One couple, two couples..
Incidentally, this forum will not let you say 'Summ-at' (without the dash...)
edit: well I never knew that. something needs to be done about this!
You should have put "your" and "you're" in quotes.
Why ? I wasn't quoting anyone.
Besides, I don't like using quotation marks on my keyboard, they are incorrect - I like to have my 66 in the front and my 99 in the back. I blame falling standards and the nanny state.
F1gur471v3ly 5p34k1ng?
Good example of a Brain Study: If you can read this you have a strong mind:
7H15 M3554G3
53RV35 7O PR0V3
H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N
D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5!
1MPR3551V3 7H1NG5!
1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG
17 WA5 H4RD BU7
N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3
Y0UR M1ND 1S
R34D1NG 17
4U70M471C4LLY
W17H0U7 3V3N
7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17,
B3 PROUD! 0NLY
C3R741N P30PL3 C4N
R3AD 7H15.
In this day and age if people can understand what's written then it probably doesn't really matter about spelling, grammar and punctuation. Having said that, I'm a pedant and think that spelling, punctuation and grammar [i]is[/i] important 🙂
i agree.... it's one of the easier grammatic rules to understand.
standards are slipping on STW.
one of the things that make it readable for me is the higher standard of written english compared to other sites.
Alpin, please start your sentences with a capital letter. Also, please ensure you use a capital letter to denote the proper name of the English language in future.
C-
Could do better.
I edit a corporate Intranet.
I spend a lot of time chasing down greengrocer's apostrophe's. I have started to think that people do it to annoy me. Either that, or the machines are rising up against me, also a strong possibility.
(before anybody jumps on me, my incorrect use of the possessive apostrophe was IRONIC)
In this day and age if people can understand what's written then it probably doesn't really matter about spelling, grammar and punctuation.
But they are just rules and norms, aren't they? Occasionally though I find I have to go back and read sentences again because incorrect spelling or poor grammar has misled me. The excersice you posted agrees with my expectations making it easier to guess what is being said.
7H15 M4554G353RV35 7O PR0V3
H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N
D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5!
1MPR3551V3 7H1NG5!
1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG
17 I5 H4RD BU7
N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3
Y0UR M1ND AR
R34D1NG 17
4U70M471C4LLY
W17H0U7 3V3N
7H4NK1NG 4B0U7 17,
B3 PROUD! 0NLY
CUR741N P30PL3 C4N
R3AD 7H15.
Any better?
@ Hels... i wanted to mention the apotrophe 's, but i thought if i started off on that tangent people would think i was a pedantic nazi. i see it quite a lot here. that or 's rather than 're.
@ captainflashheart... no. 🙂
Ernie - you're referring to the word, not using the word. Hence the use of quotes.
(before anybody jumps on me, my incorrect use of the possessive apostrophe was IRONIC)
The use of internet forums [fora?] encourages people to use the written language which is a good thing in this day and age.
To be able to write in such a way that readers can identify emphasis, inflection [inflexion?], irony, etc., especially on the internet takes some skill. Or is the skill in reading it?
How do posters feel about 'massively' and its increasing use?
7H15 M3554G353RV35 7O PR0V3
H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N
D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5!
1MPR3551V3 7H1NG5!
1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG
17 WA5 H4RD BU7
N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3
Y0UR M1ND 1S
R34D1NG 17
4U70M471C4LLY
W17H0U7 3V3N
7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17,
B3 PROUD! 0NLY
C3R741N P30PL3 C4N
R3AD 7H15.
I thought they were all 'personalised' number plates found in Essex.
Incidentally, this forum will not let you say 'Summ-at' (without the dash...) as in when you say,'I want a cup of tea or summ-at', It auto-corrects it to 'Something'..
I reckon the grumpy one must have set it up as a defence if Fred ever finds his way back in - kind of an education aid of the little blighter...
We have to make signs in our shop for card categories. Many hours are spent discussing whether it is Fathers Day, as in a day for all fathers to celebrate. Or Father's Day , a day belonging to a father.
It is open to the forum.
I definately find people using your alot more now than I would of a few years back. FTWWould have.
There is no such word as alot.
Presuming you got the deliberate joke sentence, but shame on you for not spotting the most often used spelling mistake: "definately"
Good example of a Brain Study: If you can read this you have a strong mind:7H15 M3554G3
53RV35 7O PR0V3
H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N
D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5!
1MPR3551V3 7H1NG5!
1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG
17 WA5 H4RD BU7
N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3
Y0UR M1ND 1S
R34D1NG 17
4U70M471C4LLY
W17H0U7 3V3N
7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17,
B3 PROUD! 0NLY
C3R741N P30PL3 C4N
R3AD 7H15.
LOVE that!
After reading the first line slowly I could read the rest of like it was normal English 🙂
Does that make me better than other people? 😉
It makes you well 1337; congratulations.
How do posters feel about 'massively' and its increasing use?
iconic innit
We have to make signs in our shop for card categories. Many hours are spent discussing whether it is [b]Fathers Day[/b], as in a day for all fathers to celebrate. Or Father's Day , a day belonging to a father.
It is open to the forum.
That would be Fathers' Day, no?
Luv that tee
What about?
There, they're and their
Fathers Day... Or Father's Day
Surely it would be Fathers' Day, as in a day belonging to all Fathers.
EDIT: beaten too it 😉
There seems to be an exponential rise in the "would of" instead of "would have", mostly in the last 6-12 months? I both hear it, but also see it in writing.
Is there a particular commoner responsible for spreading this or is it more systematic? Reality TV? Facebook?
+1 Fathers'
[i]Is there a particular commoner responsible for spreading this or is it more systematic? Reality TV? Facebook? [/i]
Stupid people.
Is there a particular commoner responsible for spreading this or is it more systematic? Reality TV? Facebook?
Stupid people.
And the country/media/shops/government that needs their money/votes and has to accommodate/pander to them.
PMSL @ samuri!
+1 Fathers'
See, I disagree. I think there's no apostrope at all: Fathers Day
Plural..... 🙂
Who cares ?
I think there is a common theme between this thread and the [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/are-mose-people-now-just-technology-consumers ]"technology consumers"[/url] one:
some people seem to be proud that they are ignorant of this stuff and slightly suspicious of those that do.
See, I disagree. I think there's no apostrope at all: Fathers Day
Plural.....
belonging to the fathers.
GrahamS - MemberWho cares ?
I think there is a common theme between this thread and the "technology consumers" one:
some people seem to be proud that they are ignorant of this stuff and slightly suspicious of those that do.
everyone has learnt - and needs - to read and write to get by in life and judgements will be made on those people on the way they communicate. whether that is on here or in the real world when applying for jobs or dealing with customers. not everyone needs to know how to hang a door, write a will or program a computer. these are specialised tasks. writing, and therefore spelling and grammar in general are not specialised tasks as such. ignorance of another field isn't a bad thing, per se. but when that field is the common language then it is, IMO. surely everyone reads a newspaper from time to time...? or maybe people just don't think too much when hitting the keys on their keyboard?
Surely a couple is singular? One couple, two couples..
My wife and I [b]are[/b] a couple. We [b]is[/b] not a couple.
I think this video sums this topic up in a suitably childish manner...
See, I disagree. I think there's no apostrope at all: Fathers Day
Plural.....
Indeed, but as it is the day of all Fathers, it belongs to them, hence the possessive apostrophe after the pluralising "s". 😛
surely everyone reads a newspaper from time to time
I don't. I like my news to be unbiased and factual.
My wife and I are a couple. We is not a couple.
[s]Yeah, but you've reordered the sentence. There, the clause "my wife and I" is the subject of the sentence and "couple" the object. Is / are applies to the former.[/s] EDIT - I'm not sure that's right actually. But it's still [b]a[/b] couple rather than several couples. I think.
I don't. I like my news to be unbiased and factual.
Ooooooh, Handbags. How does that work in practice?
Edit: 😀
How does that work in practice?
Badly, I have an account on here.
Badly, I have an account on here.
Well it may not be unbiased - but at least you get every side of the story.
Including some less [i]mainstream[/i] opinions 😯
Whilst David Crystal is one of the leaders in the field of linguistics, I don't think his shooting down of this theory on CMC is right. He states that teens must know the correct spelling of words to be able to shorten them and the teens tell him such. But the 'cool' issue when a 'voice' in the community they are in starts spelling a word a certain way can lead to uneducated youths following that spelling. Parents who are illiterate cause issues with their children. Celebrities don't help either. At least dumb ones. Interestingly, I think Russell Brand shows a literate intelligence that may have caused his descent into self abuse.
I personally think 'stupid people' are the cause of so many language errors. But then our education system must be flawed since I watch third year undergrad native speaking linguists without an adequate vocabulary or the ability to form sentences with correct spelling, grammar or punctuation.
[b]Muphry's law[/b] [i]is an adage that states that "if you write anything criticising editing or proofreading, there will be a fault of some kind in what you have written". The name is a deliberate misspelling of Murphy's law.[/i]
Muphry's law is an adage that states that "if you write anything criticising editing or proofreading, there will be a fault of some kind in what you have written". The name is a deliberate misspelling of Murphy's law.
I was going to post up a suggestion that grammar threads on the internet should be hooked up to a dynamo - we'd have all the energy we need.
While we're doing this, can we make everyone spell 'Loose' and 'Lose' properly please. I see so many examples of folk stating things such as 'I'm loosing my mind' that I may actually lose MY mind...
I wouldn't hold your breathe.






