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Just f'rinterest, further to yesterday's thread.
My Ham hack and extra mature cheddar cheese on multi seed farmhouse batch bread, with lettuce and onion chutney has 3 traffic light Reds for fat, sat. fats and salt. Amber on calories and green on sugar. The Sugar Green is blown well into red by the 34g of sugar in the cloudy apple juice (made from hand picked apples by Copella, Boxford Farm, Sussex). The calories are bumped up to 879 by the drink and the crisps.
So that's Red on every scale, and 879 kcals for £3, compared to 990 for a medium big mac meal at £3.70.
And I didn't even get a bag of cookies today. god knows what';s in them - they don't say, presumbaly they don't have to if it's "hand baked in store by our artisans"?
How does yours compare?
Homemade refried beans.
What do I win?
Lorne sausage roll at Glentress Peel - TWO SLICES!!
Couple of rolls containing tuna made last night and a pear. No idea on nutition, 400 calories maybe?
medium big mac meal... I thought everyone went large 😀
Regardless of the red marks and calories, I would imagine your lunch actually has some nutritional value. I doubt the big mac meal does.
cheese salad, with houmous, pumpkin seeds and bit of oil and balsamic vinegar
Activia Rhubarb Yoghurt
Tangerine, apple.
Canteen pumpkin and sweet potato soup, I’m guessing it was calorie free as it had been through the bland-a-riser
Regardless of the red marks and calories, I would imagine your lunch actually has some nutritional value. I doubt the big mac meal does
On what basis? Big mac has bread, for carbs, meat for protein and iron?
What nutrition are you talking about?
Pasta/tuna/vegetables/chilli sauce/bit of low-fat mayo
No salt other than what's in the Tuna, no fat other than the spoon of mayo, sugars? no idea - probly some in the veg.
Although comparing real food to a Mcdonalds is not far from comparing it to a turd 😀
Red cherry tomoatoes
Yellow peppers
Green cucumber
in my salad (amongst a few other things) what I made last night.
4 cans of Red Bull, 2 cans of monster energy, a Mars bar, a pack of Rothman, and 8 spoonfuls of coffee powder (neat).
Not.
Even.
Peckish...
DrP
I doubt the big mac meal does.
Why? A ham and cheese sandwich is hardly the healthiest thing on the planet. I reckon there's as much "nutritional value" (WTF does that mean anyway) in the big mac meal as there is in the OPs lunch.
Homemade curry from last night - Oh aye!
A Kit-Kat chunky this aft with a cup of Red-Bush tea.
Oh and a cod-liver capsule with the curry.
No idea on nutrition bu the curry is chicken so I imagine reasonably low in fat.
[i]I would imagine your lunch actually has some nutritional value. I doubt the big mac meal does. [/i]
Well, there's protein in the beef and carbohydrate in the bun and the fries, plus the drink will help to keep you hydrated. There'll also be vitamins and minerals in varying degrees.
I love anti-McD snobbery, because it's mainly b0llocks. There's nothing wrong with it as an occasional meal, and indeed it's no worse than many other 'convenience' meals, as nedrapier has demonstrated.
Home made Chipotle Vege Chill - prob around 400cals. Will finish it off with a sinickers and can of coke
"Couple of rolls containing tuna made last night and a pear. No idea on nutrition, 400 calories maybe?"
Prob more than 400kcal, The organic wholemeal roll I scanned on myfitnesspal for my lunch was 200kcal on its own.
Lentil soup, wholemeal roll and a cathedral city /pickle snack thing 705kcal all in.
Pork pie
Turkey, bacon, stuffing and cranberry [s]pannini[/s] toastie
Bakewell slice
Bannana milk
Not fussed about the calories, i'm hank marvin!
Tesco pumpkin and chilli soup and some chunky slices of tiger bread. No idea on the calories or nutritional value, but it was tasty 🙂
I just had Quiche, £2.09, 1200 Calories. In about half an hour I'll have a cupcake (315 calories), possibly something else too, cos I'm still hungry! I'm guessing none of this is healthy at all, but it tastes good!
Although comparing real food to a Mcdonalds is not far from comparing it to a turd
Or just carry on spouting unfounded pish because it makes you feel superior in some middle-class warrior way?
I had a chorizo and cheese sandwich with mayo, tomatoe and lettuce, crisps and a cadburys boost.
Probably in the same ball park of unheathly as a Big Mac meal.
Oh FWIW, I had a ham and (disappointingly sweet and not nearly sharp or crunchy enough) piccalili baguette and an apple.
Butternut squash , Sweet potato and pepper Risotto with sweet chilli sauce
I suspect way less fat than Mc D.s no idea of calories
Massive slice of homemade cake - it had pineapples on it.
Carb loading as no tea when i get in as straight out riding
love anti-McD snobbery, because it's mainly b0llocks. There's nothing wrong with it as an occasional meal
Why only occasionally if they are just being "snobby"
To be fair you do get OTT reactions about them
Everyone knows it is not "healthy food" but it wont kill you either
Asda big plastic tub of soup (always tomato based) everyday for lunch.
No bread.
Between 180-300 calories and <1% fat.
And a cup of tea.
Or just carry on spouting unfounded pish because it makes you feel superior in some middle-class warrior way?
Alright Mr Angry, calm down, it's only an opinion 😀
A nice healthy ham salad on a brown barm. All very well. Unfortunately in the slaying hunger stakes it failed miserably, so a pork pie was pressed into service to aid the effort. Followed by a pack of Ringo's. Lovely. Though probably not in the Big Mac league calorie wise. I'm guessing. I haven't actually got a clue!
Why is 800 calories for lunch a bad thing? I've had two ham rolls, a bag of walkers sunbites, a cereal bar and a 400ml bottle filled with orange squash. So lets guess that its similar to your 800 calories. I'm guessing that my thai green curry and rice will have around 1000 in tonight for tea so thats still plenty of room for drinks and breakfast yo stick to the recomnended daily allowance.
I don't think that saying McD has little nutritional value is "snobbery".
I'm no expert but it seems like common knowledge to me that processed fast-foods like McD contain less "goodness" than fresh foods. What do I mean by "goodness"? I don't know really but I guess vitamins, minerals, and fibre spring to mind.
The fact that people (including McD themselves) recommend eating it as only part of your diet would also seem to support that.
I personally eat McD once or twice a month on average and so do my young children. I don't think it's any worse than any other fast food.
A can of fizzy suggar free pop.
Probably a load of vitamin C and 3 calories. What do I win?
Being ill sucks, on the plus side maybe I'll lose some weight with this lack of appetite.
Heinz Mulligatawny soup FULL can - 220 calories
Mug of Earl Grey tea, no milk - eff all calories
The 'Nutritional value' of food has nothing to do with the stuff thats in it, its how smug it makes you when you tell others what you have eaten.
Basically, anything that isn't brown rice or quinoa, sustainably sourced oily fish, chick peas (preferably hoummus) and a fat free dressing you may as well be eating fatty dust (or to coin a phrase, a 'turd'), and should be looked upon as such.
FWIW, I had a tin of sausage and veg Big Soup, and pack of grapes. I have no idea nor care of its Nutritional Value.
Leftover curry and pasta. Not sure how many calories but it tasted nice.
lol @ tomhoward!
[i]Why only occasionally if they are just being "snobby"[/i]
Because it is relatively high in fat and salt, so eating it a lot is not a good idea. Then again, so is much restaurant or convenience food, yet the same level of snobbery isn't directed at, say, service station sandwiches.
[i]Everyone knows it is not "healthy food" but it wont kill you either [/i]
Exactly, and it's not alone.
The fact that people (including McD themselves) recommend eating it as only part of your diet would also seem to support that.
Michel Roux Jr says the same thing about eating at La Gavroche, what's your point caller?
Protein shake.
Coffe.
Dried toast (& maybe a slice of cake..)
I know.
Its fekin dull.. 🙁
Think I can beat you all:
Tesco large sausage roll- 497cals
Tesco walnut cake (meant to be shared by a family) my plan was to eat a quarter and save the rest. Destroyed the lot of it) -1200cals.
Total 1697 cals and a good chance of obesity and diabetes all for the bargain price of £1.65
I cycle a 40min commute each way so can get away with it on occasion!
Michel Roux Jr says the same thing about eating at La Gavroche, what's your point caller?
Surely the Michel Roux Jr quote reinforces the fact that this has nothing to do with snobbery towards McD?
Put simply, some foods are more unhealthy than others and as such should be eaten less often.
Some unhealthy foods are cheap and some are expensive but that is not really relevant.
Chain store meal deal constsiting of
Noodle/Chicken Salad - 267 cals
2 x Pork Pies - 340 cals
Innocent smoothie - 125 cals
What do I win?
my lunch (no idea of calorific values):
butty comprised of home baked bread, home made steamed red seitan (a wheat gluten based veggie protein/meat substitute), sliced roasted beetroot and a small amount of egg free garlic mayo.
1 banana.
1 mug of green tea with lemon juice.
i'll have a large bowl of home made chickpea and broccoli soup for tea when i get home.
i'm working on losing weight. so this is part of a change in the way i eat; i have something similar each work day and so far it's working fine, i've lost around 2kg in the last 6 weeks. only another 6-8 to go til i reach my target!
Not that this meal isn't healthy, but I find it alarming that people still equate the amount of fat in a meal with it's healthiness. Eating fat isn't the reason people are fat and it isn't the main cause of concern in McDonalds/other junk foods.Pasta/tuna/vegetables/chilli sauce/bit of low-fat mayoNo salt other than what's in the Tuna, no fat other than the spoon of mayo, sugars? no idea - probly some in the veg.
Apologies packer, misunderstood your post.
Carry on...
nedrapier - is this the Sainsbury's sandwich in a bag Ham Hock and cheese sandwich? If so I think it's probably my favourite supermarket packet sandwich. Proper nice.
For lunch I had....
Marks and Spencer - The Club (sandwich) - 630 cals, 33g fat (6g sat), 2.45g salt.
Sushi snack pack - 140 cals, 1g fat, 0.85g salt
Walkers Ready Salted crisps - 134 cals, 8.5g fat (0.6g sat), 0.15g salt
Muller corner - vanilla and choc balls, can't bothered to do maths as their nutritional info is for 100g yet the "yoghurt" is 135g.
Crunchie - 185 cals, 7.6g fat (4.9 sat), 0.28g salt.
So in without the muller.... 1085 cals, 40g-ish fat (10g-ish sat), 3.5g of salt.
I walked into the office with an M&S christmas sandwich the other day. Can't remember what was in it, but some of the women gasped at the nutritional value on there. I think basically it was a heart attack between two bits of bread, but I don't usually pay attention to that sort of thing!
egg free garlic mayo
The mind boggles. Egg free mayo?
its preety hard to tell it from the real stuff
Dont expect the same witht he cheeses
The mind boggles. Egg free mayo?
http://www.plamilfoods.co.uk/egg-free-mayo/
works for me anyway.
johnnie- there's been advancements in the cheese department. some very good ones available now. but then again, it's been 20 years since i've eaten actual cheese made from milk so i don't really have any reference point for a comparison...
Crackers with mayo and grated cheese followed by a soya yogurt.
I didn't want to eat the soya yogurt but I saw it advertised on the television, so I had no choice.
soup meal. 400cals, green on everything except salt (amber) and 2 of my 5 a day.
Two rashers of bacon, bought from local butcher who cures it himself, all traceable, from a farm near Marr, 4-5 miles away. Served with Sunday dinner leftovers refried, Spud, Carrot and Swede, Cabbage, all from farm six miles out of town in the opposite direction. Good squirt of HP, probably imported (to Yorkshire). Big mug of Yorkshire Tea, handpicked in Yorkshire, obviously. 😉
this melts really well for Pizza or nacho topping but tastes of absolutely nothing whatsoever but is my one of choice currently
I settlled for nice melty one and gave up expecting a nice tasting one
The cream in can is pretty good as well Soyatoo iirc soya or roce variations and both taste the same - non vegans say it is ok too
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Bacon, rocket, tomato, Morrocan style hummous, in a pitta.
Like a posh BLT.
What kind of slack jawed faggots know how many calories are in a meal, unless you're trying to beat a record?
WRT to snobbery and McD's, I don't eat there because the food tastes like shit. That's as far as the thought process needs to go.
🙂
Homemade fruit salad (pineapple, pink grapefruit, orange and pomegranate) and a Total 0% Greek yoghurt...bloody delicious!
Would guess at about 300 cals, mostly simple carbs and a bit of protein from the yoghurt. Not my usual lunch but it was easy to hand and I'm having a deliberately light day today cos I ate like a ****ing gannet last night.
The mind boggles as to why someone would choose to be a vegan and then search high and low for a fake alternative to cheese.
Do you not eat chesse then - dont find it useful on certain dishes
Why would I be any different?
I object to the source not the taste - same goes for meat
[i]WRT to snobbery and McD's, I don't eat there because the food tastes like shit.[/i]
See, you're wrong there too. Big Macs are goooooooood 🙂
I started this beacuse I was eating my lunch and looking at the "wheel of death" on the front of the sandwich and thinking about yesterday's thread and the presumtion that MacD's was responsible for obesity.
Given that people say fat gain is due to calories vs. calories burnt, I thought this was interesting info. I could just as easily pick up a sausage roll and a packet of biscuits to go with my Sainsbo's meal deal as I could ask for super size or an extra mcflurry at McD's.
The "snobbery" point comes from the fact it's apparently OK for Sby's to offer me, and me to choose what I buy there, but it's not OK for McD's to offer, and for people to choose what they buy there.
My choices, and the choices of people like me, are apparently superior than the choices of people who eat at McDonalds, even when they're very likely to result in the same calorific input.
Beans On.
Surely the way the op should be read is the other way around. Take the McDs as a datum for "not too healthy" as a [u]daily[/u] lunch. Then look at the alternative you have chosen because it's vaguely healthy. When it turns out your middle class alternative is not that much better as you had previously anticipated, it doesn't mean McDs is actually OK but rather you need to try harder and have been inadvertently "super-sized" without realising.
Shudder at the processed chemical products for the vegan crowd.
I had a relatively high fat lunch btw but very low GI.
You make a good point nedrapier. Lots of snobbery, not enough knowledge around the subject of fast food. I doubt for example that McDs have found a way to remove all the protein, vitamins and minerals from the beef they use.
Shudder at the processed chemical products for the vegan crowd.
I was trying to get a physique like yours 😉
All things in moderation I eat about one of the packs every 3 months I think i will still remain a racing whippet [ in looks not pace]
Ingredients
Water, palm oil, tofu, soy protein, stabilizer (carrageenan, guar and carob bean gum), maltodextrin, vinegar, corn starch, emulsifying salt (calcium phosphate, potassium phosphate), potato flakes, salt, adipic acid, soy lecithin, natural flavours, natural colours, preservative (potassium sorbate).
Nutritional Information
Typical values per 100g:
Energy 420kcal/1760kJ, Protein 10.5g, Carbohydrate 10.5g of which sugars 0.0g, Fat 31.5g, of which polyunsaturates 15.7g, of which saturates 15.8g, of which cholesterol 0.0g, Fibre 0.0g, Sodium 1.5g
Still be healthier than cheeses which i assume we must also consider to be highly processed and all food is made of chemicals
[i]The "snobbery" point comes from the fact it's apparently OK for Sby's to offer me, and me to choose what I buy there, but it's not OK for McD's to offer, and for people to choose what they buy there.
My choices, and the choices of people like me, are apparently superior than the choices of people who eat at McDonalds, even when they're very likely to result in the same calorific input. [/i]
Well said.
molly- tbh, no more "processed chemicals" than the non-vegan equivalents in most cases.
The mind boggles as to why someone would choose to be a vegan and then search high and low for a fake alternative to cheese
ah well, boggle away! i don't care what you choose to eat (or not), so there's that...
Palm oil, Junkyard? Look it up. Terrible stuff. Worse than meat...
I'm going to add one of these 🙂 because it might not be, but it's still pretty reprehensible.
Surely the way the op should be read is the other way around. Take the McDs as a datum for "not too healthy" as a daily lunch. Then look at the alternative you have chosen because it's vaguely healthy. When it turns out your middle class alternative is not that much better as you had previously anticipated, it doesn't mean McDs is actually OK but rather you need to try harder and have been inadvertently "super-sized" without realising
exactly.
i'm no fan of mcDs (for probably obvious reasons), but they do tend to get singled out for criticism unfairly when you look at the bigger picture (and their competitors).
Just finished a Jacket Spud & Mexican Mushroom Chilli.. No idea about calories but hazard at 550'ish??
Would have eaten when you lot did but meetings and more meetings 🙄
Palm oil, Junkyard? Look it up. Terrible stuff. Worse than meat...I'm going to add one of these because it might not be, but it's still pretty reprehensible.
Ingnores smiley and goes on a rant 😉
Please not BS herbiovore Bingo on this thread as well 😯
A fair point actually - i did not knwo the ingredients till i searched tbh I will see how ethically they source it
See, you're wrong there too. Big Macs are goooooooood
You see fortunately, as you think Big Macs taste goooooooood, your opinion is worthless and needs not to be considered. 😛
Hmmm.
Lunch was a sandwich made with Hovis of some description, 2 slices of pastrami & pickle accompanied by some Walkers Baked crisps.
Probably 400 cals, maybe 450 at at a push.
But have also eaten:
- 1/2 a chopped pepper & 1 chopped carrot
- tracker bar
- 10 cherry tomatoes
- banana
- activia prune yogurt.
I have a satsuma still to eat, but am tempted to venture to the vending machine. But...I am having sausages & cauliflower cheese for dinner so will refrain.
nedrapier- fwiw, the tofutti stuff that johnnie posted isn't that great an example (possibly cos it's an american brand and they shove palm oil or corn syrup in almost everything; both pretty unpleasant ingredients)- there's a couple of european brands making non-dairy cheeses out of nut bases that have way fewer ingredients and use essentially the same methods and principles as regular cheesemakers, and they are way way better too (vegusto being my particular favourite brand).
Palm oil, Junkyard? Look it up. Terrible stuff.
Milk a cow or decimate an entire ecosystem?
Tough choice.
And so the BS bingo begins
Iam out of this
herbivore will e-mail you re more ethical choices - tomorrow as today is ride night
Milk a cow or decimate an entire ecosystem?
Tough choice.
whilst i agree that it's a horrendous product (palm oil), do you think it's only used in the production of vegetarian/vegan food items?
and let's not get into the deforestation of vast swathes of south america to grow soya beans to make animal feed (97% of soya beans produced across the planet go to animal feed)...
Nonsense...we can do both!Milk a cow or decimate an entire ecosystem?
Tough choice.
druidh - Member
Lorne sausage roll
You really are very Scottish aren't you. Didn't even know what these things are until recently.
I googled "Lawn Sausage" when I first heard of them.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lawn%20sausage
Didn't fancy it in a Sarnie
Nothing.
Lunch is for wimps 😉
Still be healthier than cheeses
Sure? Cheese is fatty but it's also pretty nutritous.
Milk a cow or decimate an entire ecosystem?
Cattle grazing has already decimated several ecosystems hasn't it?
I have nothing against vegans/veggies/herbivores/whatever but I do think processed foods of all sorts should be avoided wherever possible - that includes meat pies with god knows what in them AS WELL AS all these fake-meat/cheese/etc abominations.whilst i agree that it's a horrendous product (palm oil), do you think it's only used in the production of vegetarian/vegan food items?
No idea on fat or calories or whatever else, because the wife made it last night and I had the leftovers reheated today.
There were three big, fat sausages in it. And lentils, butter beans, passata, carrots, onions, some red wine, herbs, broccoli, and probably some other stuff that I'm forgetting.
No idea how much there was altogether, but it went a good way towards filling a 1.4 litre tub, so there must have been near enough to a kilogram? It was lovely.
Mike, that sounds awesome. Well done Mrs. tually.
I have nothing against vegans/veggies/herbivores/whatever but I do think processed foods of all sorts should be avoided wherever possible - that includes meat pies with god knows what in them AS WELL AS all these fake-meat/cheese/etc abominations.
i agree, and i do.
hence why i'm a fan of the aforementioned vegusto; their "cheeses" are all entirely hand made and quite easy to replicate at home too, tbh.