[Closed] Wow, that's a big telly

That would be very nice for affluent middle class people to watch Scandinavian dramas and Grand Designs on.

Just the perfect size for their large converted barns in rural Hampshire.

Absolutely, that's who I was thinking of.

Would go very nicely with the 4x4, organic houmous and Aga. Plus, you could set one up in the stables, for the ponies to watch Black Beauty on.

Careful now, you don't want to be seen stereotyping people just because they live in nice houses.

What exactly do you have against council housing? As that seems to be where you're aiming this post again.

Biggest TVs I've ever seen have generally been in the front rooms of council houses when on home visits.
Can think of one chap really ill with terrible lungs, rheumatoid arthritis, died a few weeks ago; he couldn't get out of his chair for the last few months and spent many an hour watching the 60 inch TV in his tiny front room. only pleasure he had left I guess.

No you're absolutely right, IHN. I'm sure some affluent middle class people don't live in large barn conversions in Hampshire. I'm sure they still eat organic houmous though, as all the ones I know do!

As I read somewhere recently, and to paraphrase;

Your bookcases should always be bigger than your TV. If not, something's gone wrong.

Biggest TVs I've ever seen have generally been in the front rooms of council houses when on home visits.

+1

What's a 'bookcase'?

The largest televison I've ever seen was in a showroom in John Lewis'. I passed it on the way to look at some Egyptian cotton bed linen.

spent many an hour watching the 60 inch TV in his tiny front room. only pleasure he had left I guess.

[i]What exactly do you have against council housing?[/i]

Absolutely nothing. I do however see the slight irony in one type of stereotype made for (weak) comedic effect being allowable whilst another gets a thread deleted.

I think the point is that your original post was seen as somehow derogatory towards people you appear to feel superior to. That's how it seemed to come across, anyway. A kind of snobbish sneering at the underclass'es.

However, it does seem to be a fact that many people from, shall we say, more 'working class' backgrounds appear to prioritise a telvesion over other household objects, for example Smeg fridges, wine-racks aor bookcases. Different groups make different choices. This is very genralistic though.

It's very easy to look down on others, but much harder to look at yourself.

mikeconnor - Member
No you're absolutely right, IHN. I'm sure some affluent middle class people don't live in large barn conversions in Hampshire. I'm sure they still eat organic houmous though, as all the ones I know do!

Don't live anywhere near Hampshire either, or drive a 4x4/Audi/BMW.

Oh yes, forgot to add, I certainly wouldn't have a TV that size anywhere near my house either.

Would get in the way of my lovely birch bookcases. 😉

4K TV? Is that like 4G but 4 letters better?
Or is it the result of a menage-a-trois between 3D, HD and 4G?

Whatever it is, I'm sure its essential we all have it as soon as possible!

I like to think I'm affluent middle class

If you'd like to think it, chances are you probably aren't... 😉

If it gets me banned it gets me banned, but when I drive / cycle / walk along the local streets, the council houses all seem to have sky telly and massive TV screens, and occupants who can smoke. I know it's not everyone (and half my family are from "council house stock" and still live there, for the record), but there's a high percentage.

Stereotypes don't suddenly appear out of nowhere, y'know. There's *always* a grain of truth somewhere.

[i]I think the point is that your original post was seen as somehow derogatory towards people you appear to feel superior to. That's how it seemed to come across, anyway. A kind of snobbish sneering at the underclass'es.

It's very easy to look down on others, but much harder to look at yourself.[/i]

And there was me thinking I was simply making a cheap gag using the common stereotype of council houses having massive tellies, much like, if, say, the piece was about a new Range Rover I may have made a cheap gag using the common stereotype of posh people hunting and wearing green wellies.

I suspect if I'd done the latter then my original thread wouldn't have been pulled.

If you'd like to think it, chances are you probably aren't...

He is though. Very middle of the road in almost everything.

Except choices of lycra, that is.

😈

So the first thread gets pulled. Is there really any point in trying again?

So there was an excuse in the first with the hidden link to E Festival joke list, but this seems more of a basic attempt to annoy the mods/troll? Can it end well? Is there a point?

Stereotypes don't suddenly appear out of nowhere, y'know. There's *always* a grain of truth somewhere.

i dunno, some are created and still survive to this day:

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However, LG's 25 million-won ($22,010; £13,940) price tag is likely to dissuade many from investing in its technology at present.

We were paying £14,000 a few years ago for 65" NEC plasmas.

[i]So there was an excuse in the first with the hidden link to E Festival joke list[/i]

Well, yeah, that was why I posted it; one of those STW 'in' joke things that we love so much

[i] Can it end well?[/i]

I doubt it.

[i]Is there a point?[/i]

To what, someone on the internet being so offended enough by something trivial I said on the internet to report it? Or me finding it quite amusing that someone on the internet was so offended by something trivial I said on the internet to report it? Not really, no.

If it gets me banned it gets me banned, but when I drive / cycle / walk along the local streets, the council houses all seem to have sky telly and massive TV screens, and occupants who can smoke. I know it's not everyone (and half my family are from "council house stock" and still live there, for the record), but there's a high percentage.

Whenever I stroll down Church St in Stoke Newington, or Upper St in Islington, perhaps going for a coffee or a mung-bean soufflé, i see lots of affluent middle class types with iPads.

However, whenever a new iPad is launched, I don't feel compelled to sneer at the middle classes for the choices they might make.

For the record, i'm not-particularly-affluent middle class. my girlfirend however is unashamedly affluent middle class, and has a medium sized old CRT television. Which she hardly watches, as she's usually too busy eating organic houmous. Seh does have a Phillipe Stark juicer though.

[i]However, whenever a new iPad is launched, I don't feel compelled to sneer at the middle classes for the choices they might make.[/i]

Oh, you should, it's fun.

I'm not offended as I got the original joke. Just surprised that you had a second crack when others thought it inappropriate. Maybe this will run a little longer, with the intended humour intact?

Rocket salad next - that can be arranged to suit, I'm sure 😉

[i]Just surprised that you had a second crack when others thought it inappropriate[/i]

What can I say; I'm a maverick. I live by my own rules and I pay no attention to the man, man.

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Your bookcases should always be bigger than your TV. If not, something's gone wrong.

Kindle.

Kindle.

Ooh, get you with your poncy high-falutin' ways.

I'm growing an organic bookcase,if i get a big telly, i'll make sure it fits in there

Are you growing it from couscous and Tofu?

I already have a bookcase, it's full of knockoff DVDs.

I'm going to make a unit for the telly out of pizza boxes and empty Stella cans. I've already got a coffee table made out of White Lightening bottles and the door of an old fridge that I'd had lying in the garden for years.

Recycling IHN? how terribly middle class of you!

Your bookcases should always be bigger than your TV. If not, something's gone wrong.

How do you measure a kindle library when comparing to a TV?

[i]how terribly middle class of you![/i]

Are you calling me a puff?

japanese knotweed, grows like hell, hard to control though, will probably take over the house by next year, got a slate 'fridge' that works well, does do ice though.....

4k = 4000

picture width in pixels

my girlfirend however is unashamedly affluent middle class, and has a medium sized old CRT television.

I call BS. No way on earth does mikeconnor have a girlfriend.

No it's true. some of us on here actually have lives, too. Hard to beleive, i know.

Speaking of which, there's a threat of a picnic tonight in Ken Wood. It's going to rain, isn't it?

No it's true. some of us on here actually have lives, too. Hard to beleive, i know.

Says a person who appears to sepnd morning noon and night, every single day on ehre. Interesting.

Why the sudden hostility, wreker?

i'll read your answer tomorrow or sometime. I'm meant to be at Highgate station at 6!

Only work hours mike. You'll not find me on here very much at all in my own time, certainly not weekends. Hope you catch your train. I don't do trains myself.

It's very easy to look down on others, but much harder to look at yourself.

very true.

If it gets me banned it gets me banned, but when I drive / cycle / walk along the local streets, the council houses all seem to have sky telly and massive TV screens, and occupants who can smoke. I know it's not everyone (and half my family are from "council house stock" and still live there, for the record), but there's a high percentage.
Whenever I stroll down Church St in Stoke Newington, or Upper St in Islington, perhaps going for a coffee or a mung-bean soufflé, i see lots of affluent middle class types with iPads.

However, whenever a new iPad is launched, I don't feel compelled to sneer at the middle classes for the choices they might make.

For the record, i'm not-particularly-affluent middle class. my girlfirend however is unashamedly affluent middle class, and has a medium sized old CRT television. Which she hardly watches, as she's usually too busy eating organic houmous. Seh does have a Phillipe Stark juicer though.

what's so wrong with being middle class and eating hummus?
you're not being prejudiced are you?

O'Flashearty is unusually wound up there. I wonder why that is. You haven't been dissing mike's mum too have you?

I'm sure it's a great telly, but 84" and £14k? I was looking at a 55" HD TV at the local supermarche yesterday for less than 800 Euros, about as big as anyone needs.
Not bragging here, but we have 8 bedrooms, almost a couple of acres of garden but only a 32" TV, so the stereotypes are possibly not far wrong . . . we have better things to do than watch TV, tonight we rode our bikes 1k to the local lake, did a spot of fishing and then rode back. And we don't eat hummous or organically marketed stuff. We don't eat much fish either, because we never catch anything.

fishing?

I was buying into upto that point...

jumbo tron used at the Vuelta (although the image on the screen looks photo-shopped?)

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Well get you! I'm sure, if you happened to see me sat outside my local coffee shop with my iPad and my iPhone, you'd take delight in making some condescending, patronising remark about my affluent, middle-class ways, while I'd just call you an insufferable snob, seeing as how I'm certainly not middle-class, while those friends of mine who are, and who also own such things, work bloody hard for every penny to be able to afford such luxuries. One such friend has a 22" LCD telly! Such extravagance, I'm sure, Mike, you'd really look down on her.

I think you've completely missed the point of what i was saying, which was, that I don't judge people because of the lifestyle choices they have made. Unlike others on here.

People are quick to sneer and be snobbish about other groups' lifestyle choices, without being aware that their behaviour is very similar; they wittingly or unwittingly give off signals about their social status/group, in order to be 'accepted' by the rest of the 'tribe'. For example; middle class folk often favour such items as expensive Dualit toasters, Apple products, John Lewis home furnishings and of course large bookcases. The huge tvs and Cath Kidson curtains are interchangeable according to social grouping, but ultimately serve the same putpose; to remind the person and others who they are, how much social 'power' the have, how successful and potent they are as individuals. This 'tribalism' manifests itself in the lifestyle and product choices we all make. Granted, this is generalising somewhat, and of course people differ greatly in their choices and behaviour, but the basic premise remains true. People have a need to 'belong' to a particular group they think best reflects who they are, and label themselves accordingly.

Amusingly, a friend of ours who has many of the stereotypical middle class accoutrements, such as the Dualit toaster, iMac, MacBook, large bookcases and the obligatory copy of the Gaurdian draped casually yet deliberately across the ottoman, bought a rather small LCD tv when their old one died. She deliberately chose a small one, as large screens are, in her own words, 'vulgar'. It's too small for the room it's in, the kids end up sitting just a few feet away, and her partner moans that he can't read and on-screen text from his position on the sofa. It's hilarious to watch her leaning ever forward, because she can't see what's on the screen properly. I offered to buy her some binoculars, but she just scowled at me.

People are funny. We think we're so different, but really we're all the same.