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I flaming hope not, hate heavy snow, makes trails unridable and travel a nightmare. Although I know a lot of folk will revel in this I want a nice mild winter and an early spring, bah.
(I know it's from the Express which normally would make it pretty much certain to be lies but the quotes from meteorlogists seem genuine)
Congrats on the first Snowpocalypse post of the season.
Nah those "experts" are just speculating to get air time. It might be the worst for years, but then it might not.
They can hardly get the weather right for tomorrow never mind next month.
It's in the Express, it [i]must[/i] be true.
I flaming hope not, hate heavy snow, makes trails unridable and travel a nightmare.
+1
It's great when advice is given such as 'don't travel unless your journey is essential'.
Define 'essential'.
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/10361672/Power-failure-as-Britain-at-highest-risk-of-winter-blackouts-for-almost-a-decade.html ]Power failure as Britain at highest risk of winter blackouts for almost a decade[/url]
I blame the last Labour government.
The Express seem to have 3 headlines they have on rotation. Some stuff about Diana, house prices or the weather.
Utter bobbins 😆
I'm pretty sure The Express run this article [i]every[/i] year.
Snow in quite a few alpine ski resorts already
Ohh I doooo hope so, we haven't had a winter since the last one 😆
Better buy your fatbike now...
Some of us live for winter. 🙂
Snow in quite a few alpine ski resorts already
Others have been enjoying the unusually warm weather.
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Yeah, as already said, the Express do the same thing every winter and every winter they get it wrong. There was an article (possibly BBC website- I'll try and find) about the Express using some spurious weather 'experts' for all of their long term forecasting.
There will be a killer death bug epidemic within the next week as well.
They don't get wrong every winter. The winter of 2009/10 was the coldest in decades.
Global warming innit!
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html
Oh, no, hang on... its the other one:
😉
They don't get wrong every winter. The winter of 2009/10 was the coldest in decades.
Well I guess if you march out the same headline every year you're going to get it right once.
If it had been reported in the Daily Wail, they'd have 2 options:
1) Snow gives you cancer
2) Snow caused by illegal immigrants
The Express seem to have 3 headlines they have on rotation. Some stuff about Diana, house prices or the weather.
Utter bobbins
Your missing 'miracle pill cures chronic condition (usually arthritis)'
SNOWMAGGEDON!
Profile of Powell here.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2012/jun/15/daily-express-weather-forecast-jonathan-powell
Met Office (ie real proper meteorological research organisation with actual scientists and stuff) is here
http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2013/10/12/winter-forecasting-responding-to-the-headlines/
http://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/scotland-s-weather-goodbye-summer-hello-snow-1-3132907
Brrrrring it on. I like biking all year round
Last three winters here in Derbyshire have involved proper snowy/cold spells, and we are not in the higher parts of the county. I found a road blocked on a ride in April this year!
Given the low energy reserves as well, and the reported lack of preparedness in the NHS, if all predictions came true then at least the forecast "pensions" crisis will be reduced. 😕
Oh, no, hang on... its the other one:
Of course the real headline is "Climate science is complex and can't be summed up in one headline"
But with almost every system, if you put more energy in you get more extreme oscillations.
*panics and orders Fatbike
Of course the real headline is "Climate science is complex and can't be summed up in one headline"
Z-11 knows that. He is fully aware that what was once called 'global warming' is now called 'climate change' precisely because the consequences are highly complex and inevitably people will be ridiculously over-simplistic.
However as someone with a right-wing neoconservative agenda he feels duty-bound to push at every conceivable opportunity the Tea Party line that climate change is a global communist conspiracy who's real aim is to tax everyone more.
Bring it on 🙂
It might be [u]imminent[/u], but certainly not 'imminant'.
Either way, it won't keep me off the trails. In fact, it can turn local rides into epics if it snows a fair bit, which is good for the variety.
Vantage Weather Services, where they get their information from, here:
http://vantageweatherservices.co.uk/index.html
The long range forecast for November 2013:
[i]November 2013
November looks to see more evenly balanced weather across the country, with a lessening degree of rainfall nationwide. Apart perhaps from the far north west, most areas should see a mix of dry, bright, and sunny weather, with a decreased amount of wet and windy conditions. Temperatures late month may well induce some early snow across the hills of Scotland and to the north of England. Towards the middle and latter part of the month under clear skies, frost activity can be expected, leading to chilly, bright, and crisp autumnal days. On balance, rainfall is expected to come in below the average for the majority of areas, with temperatures reflecting the norm.[/i]
It doesn't even match the article, in any way.
The long range forecast for November 2013:
Sounds great!
I'll get to use my ice tyres for more than the puffer then.
Excellent.
The Express makes the news come alive , especially the copy that comes out on the 29th of each month.
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Can I get in the first heat wave warning for 2014 that will kill us all for roughly June ish next year please
Same old same old
the only true weather forecast is the weather stone! 8)
Fingers crossed for just such a searingly cold and apocalyptically snowy winter as they are predicting.
Why? Do you want travel chaos, rolling power cuts, shortages in the supermarkets, increased mortality among the vulnerable groups in society, a depressed economy, and the tabloids as well as BBC going into weather sensationalism overload?
Anyway, as the tabloids are predicting it, it is less likely to happen.
Why?
Because I like skiing. Everyone else can just MTFU.
They can't reliably predict further than 5 days ahead, possibly 10, winter could go either way at the moment. I reckon its going to be mild overall 😀
These forecasts are dependent on a number of variables, the failure of any one of which will cause the model to pan out differently.
Also there is a fundamental misunderstanding of what a meteorologist means when (if!) they say 'worst winter for decades likely'. Many of the public take it literally and start stocking up. Quite often what it actually means is 'we ran the model 1000 times and 600 times the outcome was a winter where temperatures were lower and snowfalls were higher than the average over the last 30 years.'
Or summint like that.
Loads of berries on the trees this year, its supposed to be a sign of a bad winter.
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If an easterly wind on St Swithin's Day turns the leaves on the trees so that they are facing up, it will snow in March.
That one never fails, mark my words,
here's a simple weather forecasting method that's never wrong:
is it in the express? - then it's bollocks.
Rowan berries are not only plentyful but they are the reddest ive seen them for years.
I've consulted my seaweed and apparently I'm going to spend all winter complaining about either the lack of snow, or the current excess of snow. There will be 1 day of perfect snow, which will occur while I'm in the office.
November 27th 2012
The express 😆
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/358717/Coldest-winter-in-100-years-on-way
October 10th 2011
The express
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/276516/Britain-faces-a-mini-ice-age
November 2nd 2011
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/281196/Big-Siberian-freeze-to-hit-Britain
It's not wrong,the weather is just a bit late.
i'm going half fat on the mtb.
I'll be in a win/win situation.
Loads of berries on the trees this year, its supposed to be a sign of a bad winter.
Actually, it's the sign of a really good summer. Compared to last year, certainly.
The Met Office have given up on long-range forecasts after getting it wrong so often; can anyone remember the 'barbecue summer' they promised? I think that was before two of the wettest summers in decades.
The didn't promise any such thing. The media reported that they had, and people held them to a promise they never made.
They invented a technique for making very general loose predictions about the seasons with loads of caveats, but they stopped publishing them because the stupid public could not understand the terms of the forecast so ended up saying stuff like that ^
I like long term forecasts, I remember getting one for the august bank holiday weekend one year, in about february. They reported with 40% confidence that it'd be dark at night, brighter during the day.
As theories go
Forget it 😳 can't link
Monty python Brontasaurus theory
CountZero - Member
Loads of berries on the trees this year, its supposed to be a sign of a bad winter.Actually, it's the sign of a really good summer. Compared to last year, certainly.
The Met Office have given up on long-range forecasts after getting it wrong so often; can anyone remember the 'barbecue summer' they promised? I think that was before two of the wettest summers in decades.
molgrips - Member
The didn't promise any such thing. The media reported that they had, and people held them to a promise they never made.They invented a technique for making very general loose predictions about the seasons with loads of caveats, but they stopped publishing them because the stupid public could not understand the terms of the forecast so ended up saying stuff like that ^
More to to the point is the papers tended rail on the Met office when forecasts didn't turn out as the press presented them to be. But with stories like the one in the OP (and the Express makes ample use of this but the telegraph does to) is buy prewritten sensational weather stories from obscure weather agencies. These 'agencies' in some cases don't even have any actual staff just a bunch of made up names and stock photos on their website - its just a guy typing out weather-words to order. Oddly these papers aren't so critical when these predictions come to nothing as they no full well there isn't anyone or anything to call into question.
For record, the original 'barbecue summer' press release from the met office did very much lay out the prediction in bold:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2009/summer2009