Black flag is on the money again - and explaining quiet quitting better than myself.
Whilst companies need the quiet consistent 'plodders' mopping up the work in their unspectacular methodical way, companies also need the over enthusiastic ones who will put in that bit extra when it's needed or shoulder responsibilities, the term for these is usually 'the useful idiots' who do this to put 'leader, senior, deputy etc' in their job title .. and hopefully £50 extra a week.
Yes, quiet quitting may be a rewording work to rule; I guess it's how we interpret each term.
To call it quitting, quiet or otherwise, is a bit daft in my opinion
I take the point but in any real world situation there's normally a bit of give and take in the employment relationship, if you're not getting to "take" enough to feel satisfied then cut back on the giving.
I certainly agree with trying to find something else, but protect yourself in the meantime. My wife and I "quietly quit" in our jobs in Japan where we had an obligation that we couldn't reasonably walk away from but were otherwise treading water waiting to leave. About 6 months in all. We would have certainly resigned quicker but for that obligation (which was to someone outside of the company who was booked to visit us for a month while we were there).
I lost my first ever full time job because the useless manager asked me what I thought of him, so I told him ?
I guess it depends on what industry you work in. I know of a similar situation where a former colleague has been pretty much black balled and despite vast knowledge and experience she will never get to be a consultant .. or if she does it's in the hospitals back of beyond where nobody else wants to work; or she jumps and becomes a GP.
@funkmasterp its fine, i was more worried i was coming across as argumentative than you.
companies also need the over enthusiastic ones who will put in that bit extra when it’s needed or shoulder responsibilities, the term for these is usually ‘the useful idiots’ who do this to put ‘leader, senior, deputy etc’ in their job title .. and hopefully £50
There's a balance. You need to play the game. Doing a little bit more over the last 20years has got me considerably more than £50 a week extra. Also being in a job where you aren't occasionally enthusiastic sounds like hell. That's definitely a point to start thinking about a move. Work is work and never going to be fun all the time, but it needs not being torture.
I would consider a grievance at some point. Consider your options. I agree that it will probably not solve the problem and you will eventually leave. However, it can make that process a little smoother financially if your company and you mutually agree to part company rather than you just resigning.
As said, some industries are small where reputation proceeds you. Medicine and law for example.
I do appreciate there are places where you can move jobs and start afresh. But of course - that's assuming leaving is an option. Sometimes to leave means an unaffordable financial hit too
Had a similar experience, so I did it all by the numbers, got my affairs in order in preparation to leave, then followed internal processes for grievance.
As expected I got chinned off at every turn, HR were as much use as tits in a fish, a standard I've come to expect if anyone who works in a HR space. Management were Tue to themselves in being weak and spineless, so when that was process was exhausted I resigned, then went down the ET route for constructive dismissal.
Document everything!
In the end I had a new job, which I enjoyed (now left to do other things) and £26k of their money and a very smug sense of satisfaction.
Either way, get out. Life's too short and it's only a job. I know money can be a concern, but what price do you put in your me Tal wellbeing and if you a bloke of a certain age, your ongoing presence on the planet? No joke, work bullshit can grind you to dust, don't let it and make the right choice to preserve your peace.
- very smug sense of satisfaction.
Takes all sorts I guess. Not an outcome a normal person would be happy about though.
Takes all sorts I guess. Not an outcome a normal person would be happy about though.
What? You mean having a positive outcome of an ET ruling in your favour and agreeing that the organisation behaved abysmally and being compensated for said poor behaviour?
As well as finding another job in a organisation that in comparison was very good and makes efforts to look after it's people?
Every reason to be smug, but clearly you're some kind of higher zen being that can rise above. Considering your others posts in threads you've outed yourself as a bit of a prat so I'll take your snide comment as such.
