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[Closed] Windproof or lightweight softshell (hillwalking)

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I have a ME Echo jacket (no hood), although they don't seem to do the hoodless option at the moment. It ticks some of those boxes.

https://www.mountain-equipment.co.uk/collections/mens-outdoor-clothing/products/echo-hooded-jacket


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 6:32 pm
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I cannot imagine biking in my Rab Vital, maybe save a gentle family ride, I'd be sweating like a fishmongers window.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 7:03 pm
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I find that in autumn, winter and spring, my old pertex(ish) jacket is my most worn thing, just varying layers below. It's also where the zip of arms and rear vent of my current jacket work well.

Sadly the current jacket is cut poorly, with short rear and short arms.

Hillwalking I wear it all the time.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 7:14 pm
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@matt_outandabout - the Krypton is back !!

It's not quite the same but similar-ish. The orange one looks nice

https://montane.com/collections/mens-softshell-jackets/products/montane-mens-krypton-softshell-hoodie?color=Black


 
Posted : 01/10/2021 1:46 pm
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ooo, interesting....It looks even warmer than the last one though. The nice bit about the last one is that it wasn't *too* warm, it was however warmer than *just* a pertex layer. This seems more towards a pertex and Alpha insulation.

Sadly I am sporting a new windproof these days, so might need to work out how to justify another jacket. *whistles*


 
Posted : 01/10/2021 2:15 pm
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oops - that Montane outlet website link was dangerous...just bought a 'new' jacket...

Great inadvertent PSA 😉


 
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@fazzini I tend to keep that site to myself! 🙂


 
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@Nobeerinthefridge - I retract my previous statement - nothing to see/hear here 😉


 
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lol


 
Posted : 01/10/2021 2:21 pm
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Update from the OP here as this thread has reappeared...

I haven't quite been won over by the Montane windproof after a couple of trips to the Highlands with it.

It's extremely effective for something so thin and light. Completely keeps the wind out and pretty effective in a light shower.

The problem for me is that it's just too flappy. The times I most want to wear it, the wind is blowing hard and it makes a right old racket flapping around which becomes annoying quite quickly.

So the upshot is that I've got a lightweight softshell (Rab Borealis) on the way and there may be a little used Montane windproof appearing in the classifieds very soon.


 
Posted : 01/10/2021 2:45 pm
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https://rab.equipment/uk/borealis-jacket

Rab Borealis arrived. Absolutely lovely in the Firecracker Orange. Rab stuff is usually a bit boxy for me but this is nice and slim fitting. Not quite as light as the windproof but still packs down super small. Definitely a keeper.


 
Posted : 01/10/2021 11:04 pm
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The problem for me is that it’s just too flappy.

They can be. My new one is a Scott running top. It's slim enough cut not not flap as much. Saul doesn't have a hood button/velcro down so that flaps. Mrs_oab is due to sew one on there.

Works well on the bike too...


 
Posted : 01/10/2021 11:34 pm
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keela neutronic is good.

https://keelaoutdoors.com/product/neutronic-jacket/


 
Posted : 01/10/2021 11:39 pm
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Their Windshirts were rubbish BITD.

Well, as I said, I have an original Buffalo MTB windshirt that has to be close on thirty years old, I’m still wearing it, and it’s still in fine condition. Since nobody else was actually making windshirts back then, as far as I know; I believe Buffalo invented the concept, and haven’t had a need to change what wasn’t broken. Of course, if you feel the need to have all sorts of extras added to what is basically a simple shell to act as a wind barrier, then there’s lots of alternatives.


 
Posted : 03/10/2021 10:33 pm
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; I believe Buffalo invented the concept, and haven’t had a need to change what wasn’t broken.

My first windproof was a Helly Hansen, 1989 iirc.

My first Buffalo was when first year uni and my ML so 1992/3 winter.


 
Posted : 03/10/2021 10:42 pm
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I believe Buffalo invented the concept, and haven’t had a need to change what wasn’t broken.

I think the Inuit got there first tbh.


 
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Their Windshirts were rubbish BITD.

This made me laugh. They were great for their intended purposes


 
Posted : 04/10/2021 10:19 am
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I love the weird time warp stuff on here. Can I also put in a word for Ronhill Tracksters, KSBs, those cheapo HiTech mids that everyone used to wear, Berghaus Trango Extrem jackets, smelly Helly original Lifa baselayer tops, Troll Jesters, Karrimor Alpiniste packs and myriad other bits of 70s and 80s kit that 'didn't need fixing' in the same way that rigid steel mountain bikes with cantis didn't need fixing.

Notalgia fans might also note that Mountain Equipment is now selling an updated Ultrafleece jacket, ideal for reliving those youthful alpine dreams:

https://www.mountain-equipment.co.uk/collections/mens-fleece/products/ultrafleece-hooded-jacket


 
Posted : 04/10/2021 11:44 am
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i've probably still got a pair of Ron Hill Tracksters, now you come to mention it...


 
Posted : 04/10/2021 11:47 am
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Can I also put in a word for Ronhill Tracksters, KSBs, those cheapo HiTech mids that everyone used to wear, Berghaus Trango Extrem jackets, smelly Helly original Lifa baselayer tops, Troll Jesters, Karrimor Alpiniste packs and myriad other bits of 70s and 80s kit that ‘didn’t need fixing’ in the same way that rigid steel mountain bikes with cantis didn’t need fixing.

Me early 90s....

KSB boots
Ron Hill Tracksters
Buffalo top

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Posted : 04/10/2021 11:58 am
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My Montane Featherlight windproof is my favourite jacket, it can make a sunny day in Orkney pleasant. It is so much more breathable than a membrane softshell that I don't have to keep it unzipping it or taking it off to keep cool. If it is freshly washed, proofed and tumble-dried, it can even cope with a light shower in warm weather when I'm not bothered about getting a chill from getting soaked through.


 
Posted : 04/10/2021 12:13 pm
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Notalgia fans might also note that Mountain Equipment is now selling an updated Ultrafleece jacket, ideal for reliving those youthful alpine dreams:

I have only just sent my salopettes for recycling - they were teh shizzles on winter canoe trips...although now much superceded by modern layers.


 
Posted : 04/10/2021 12:19 pm
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Karrimor Alpiniste packs

My 65lt one kicks ass in the comfort stakes - and is light. Plus, purple. 😎


 
Posted : 04/10/2021 12:22 pm
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Notalgia fans might also note that Mountain Equipment is now selling an updated Ultrafleece jacket,

That's a good find. I had one of the original ME Ultrafleece jackets back in the day, it was brilliant and one of the best jacket of it's type I've ever owned- and I've owned many other similar things... just right in a wide variety of situations, soft, comfy, super breathable but stopped the wind cutting through. Wore it everywhere hiking/ biking and it lasted for decades before it wore out.

Might have to go get the new one.


 
Posted : 04/10/2021 12:45 pm
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I have absolutely no need for that ultrafleece jacket.

No, no need at all.

No.


 
Posted : 04/10/2021 12:54 pm
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Ah, gahwahn...


 
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I still buy Tracksters for dossing around in. I've moved on to running tights for hill bashing though c/w poncy hill trainers for 'fast & light'- sigh...

To be fair, KSB's were rubbish. Tetley's finest were more adept at keeping water out. At least Boghouse invented Yetis shortly after Karrimor gave us KSB's and these made a half arsed attempt at keeping your feet dry(er)...


 
Posted : 04/10/2021 3:23 pm
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