I'm not one for confrontation or campaigning or telling others what to do, so I've tried to think of a sensible way to help this situation...
Unnecessary radiation = bad (let's leave it at that for now)
Most routers, including the most common router in the UK (the BT HomeHub), [b]make it very difficult to toggle Wi-Fi on and off[/b] when you don't need it.
The result is that I have about 8 Wi-Fi signals visible on my iPhone while sat in my village home during the day and most of the neighbours are out of the house. At night there are still 6 signals visible.
Even our Wi-Fi gets left on accidentally sometimes, because it's actually pretty difficult to toggle it on/off without firing up the PC and hitting about 20 keys. (BT HomeHub 3).
I'd like to propose something to Router manufacturers.
1) That a physical Wi-Fi on/off switch is provided on all routers
2) That a timer is provided in the router web-interface so that you can easily set it to switch off Wi-Fi automatically at night.
Sensible?
How would I go about getting support for this idea?
I doubt BT would go for that - isn't it a selling point of theirs that you can give up a bit of your wi-fi and access hot spots throughout the country?
Is that why my nipples are always hard?
Unnecessary radiation = bad (let's leave it at that for now)
Better turn the lights off
So if you turn off the wi-fi, that will just leave the 'radiation' coming from all the mobile phone networks and TV and radio stations. A drop in the ocean by comparison ?
Most routers have 2 already, mine certainly does.
Dunno why you'd be arsed about radio signals though, unless you're desperate for something to panic about.
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Even our Wi-Fi gets left on accidentally sometimes, because it's actually pretty difficult to toggle it on/off
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Better turn the lights off
And hide from the sun.
Though the OP's tinfoil hat will help.
Current gen O2 routers have a button on the top that's the wifi indictor, press it for 5 seconds and the wifi will turn off.
Remember it's 'non ionising' radiation i.e. at very low levels that are generally not harmful. All mobile phone sites, handsets and I think WIFI routers are designed to comply with the very strict international ICNIRP standards therefore I'd suggest there's no need to worry and there's no need for kit manufacturers to adjust the kit.
.....unless you're desperate for something to panic about.
And there's the answer.
So if you turn off the wi-fi, that will just leave the 'radiation' coming from all the mobile phone networks and TV and radio stations. A drop in the ocean by comparison ?
That and the sun, the granite, the lights and everything else.
Unnecessary radiation = bad (let's leave it at that for now)
Like the world was created by a man with a big white beard and everything is fine. Stop trying to turn off the router and use the wifi to read some science
Sorry if that sounds rude but....
Actually it was meant to
Unnecessary radiation = bad (let's leave it at that for now)
I'll take a wild guess and say you don't have a science degree
There is far more energetic radiation streaming out of every lightbulb in your house and out of the big yellow thing in the sky (when it makes an appearance) So much radiation infact that prolonged exposure can lead to burns.
Scary stuff maybe we should worhip the yellow sky god 😉
AlexSimon - Member
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Sensible?
Not really.
No.
Sometimes its my Willy too. I also wear a tin foil hat; my mum made it with a strap so it don't keep falling off!
on my iPhone
if you want to worry about something i'll just point out that the portable transmitter in your hand is probably of more danger to you than the router on the other side of the room/house/tinfoil hat.
HTH
😀
They used to say cigarettes were good for you.
Unnecessary radiation = bad (let's leave it at that for now)
lol, like that was ever going to happen.
How would I go about getting support for this idea?
Try another forum?
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Unnecessary radiation = bad (let's leave it at that for now)
It gets a lot less scary if you just say "Unnecessary [b]radio[/b]", since that is what it is.
Do you ever watch TV, listen to the radio or use a mobile? How do you think those signals got there? You're surrounded by radio signals all the time.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_spectrum
Of all the inane pointless nonsense to stress about!?!
Even if the OP is 100% correct it cant be stopped or changed just like as mentioned mobile phone radiation, microwave radiation, skinny bike saddles making you seedless etc
fact is stressing about this is far more damaging to your body than all the polution silliness. Unless radiation has rendered your adrenal gland inoperative. Silly OP!
Vorlich, why are you posting pictures of yuh mum? what's that got to do with radiation?
It gets a lot less scary if you just say "Unnecessary radio", since that is what it is.
Careful, now...
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Interesting how the relative dosages stack up.
N.B. as pointed out in the post above, and in the diagram, non-ionising radiation does not pose a cancer risk
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here you go, once you know what piffling amount of Rad it's gobbing out, then you can work out how far away to stand whilst being indignant.
Occupational 5R/yr = 5,000mR/yrNon-Occupational .1R/yr = 100mR/yr
+ 100mR/yr (background)*
--------------= 200mR/yr total
*estimated annual exposure to background radiation
Plenty of room for extra radiation for you non-rad workers, so you could afford to use your router as a testicle tray should the urge take you.
Wi-Fi is very very low radiation - transmit powers compared to other sources.
GSM, local radio and TV al transmit powers 100s - 1000s of times higher. Thats why you don't see a TV mast at the end of every street. IF there is an issue it would be from GSM first but there is a lot of natural radiation as well.
Kayak I'd have to change those screws in your sockets, should be slotted and at vertical or horizontal!
If it makes you happy, our wieless router is on a timer switch so the whole thing is off when we're at work or overnight. It is this way because (a) I had a spare timer lying around and (b) it will probably save me about tuppence a year. Every little helps, right?
Plenty of room for extra radiation for you non-rad workers, so you could afford to use your router as a testicle tray should the urge take you.
I did whenever I missed that warming feeling I used to get at work
That and the sun, the granite, the lights and everything else.
And the big bang. Good luck avoiding that 🙂
I did whenever I missed that warming feeling I used to get at work
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Powerlines. You need to google powerlines.
2G/3G/Wifi radio is fine. Worked in labs with this stuff blasting out for years. Never caused a problem.
We did think it strange that everyone at work had female children but science says 45/50 kids is not a valid sample size.
I'll take a wild guess and say you don't have a science degreeThere is far more energetic radiation streaming out of every lightbulb in your house and out of the big yellow thing in the sky (when it makes an appearance) So much radiation infact that prolonged exposure can lead to burns.
Scary stuff maybe we should worhip the yellow sky god
Like D'uh - that's why we turn the sun off at night. I could send you an internet link to prove this, but it is very hard typing with an anti-radiation suit on.
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lol - ah well 🙂
I've just climbed out of my lead-lined bunker to read the responses.
I guess I was expecting that reducing [b]unnecessary[/b] radiation couldn't possible be seen as a bad thing.
BTW - This came about because I'm designing a web-interface for a router at the moment. We're trying to make it as user-friendly as possible as it's a mass-market device. Putting a wi-fi on/off button on the front page (before entering admin password) has already been suggested by client. I thought it was a good idea.
Back into my bunker to eat my dinner, if I can fit it through the mouthpiece of my custom Troy Lee tin-foil helmet.
you could afford to use your router as a testicle tray should the urge take you.
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Putting WiFi on/off before the admin screen sounds wrong - someone could turn it on if it is meant to be off...
Rachel
Putting a wi-fi on/off button on the front page (before entering admin password) has already been suggested by client. I thought it was a good idea.
Wait.. so [i]anyone[/i] on your network can randomly switch off/on the wifi??
Regardless of the science, that is a crap idea!
Most routers let you turn off wifi. Can be handy if you need to lock down the network completely and just use it as a modem/switch.
But "radiation" is not a scientifically sound reason (though it [i]would[/i] probably sell to the gullible quite well).
any radiation that is high rated is dangerous not only wifi radiation but also any networking radiation, so how much radiation pass through one our uses with router ?
Erm...
.... so how much radiation pass through one our uses with router ?
Erm ........ 6 ?
Eleventy four?
DD-WRT firmware allows you to set radio time restrictions so it turns off at certain times of the day.
Great for setting up a "teenager" wifi point which goes silent after 10pm.
Putting a wi-fi on/off button on the front page (before entering admin password) has already been suggested by client. I thought it was a good idea.
Handy, so you can connect over the wifi to turn the wifi off, and then turning it back on is dead easy cos you can just.....wait a minute 😉
What we really need is a new non-scary word for non-ionising radiation.
I propose radiolove.
Your router could have a button saying "share the radiolove"
Putting WiFi on/off before the admin screen sounds wrong - someone could turn it on if it is meant to be off...Rachel
Login needed, but button visible on front page. Most other interfaces include buttons on their homepages too. Just not often Wi-Fi.
In BT HomeHub it's a ridiculously convoluted process to get to it.
Although at least they offer a 'powersave' option:
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We considered not making users log in for certain functions as, if Wi-Fi was off, they'd have to be hard wired into the network to do that. In the end, we're following suit.
The client is leaning on user-friendliness being their main USP.
