[Closed] Why wont people vote green?

What is the rest of the World doing about these issues?

[i]Except the science behind 'da man' is quite often right[/i]

I don't have an issue with science, I have an issue with 'how science is deployed in making Mega-corp fantastically wealthy beyond the dreams if avarice whilst paying lip service to regulation and spending as little as possible on safety and whilst at the same time as making loud proclamations about the benefit to mankind of their beneficence, the actual object of the exercise is to enrich their coffers....with scant regard to the consequences of their actions That'll be what I have an issue with.

What is the rest of the World doing about these issues?

BTW Binners, I'm more left than you'd think. I just realised the failings of human nature when it comes to the pull of power, greed and gain.

johndoh - Member

If you read the content of their manifesto it sounds like they will do everything to make life perfect - cheaper transport and energy, create more jobs, increase the minimum wage, build 'truly' affordable housing, scrap the welfare cap, scrap university tuition fees.

Sounds perfect.

No suggestion of how they will do all this save for capping bankers' bonuses and scrapping the HS2 rail link. That ain't gonna pay for all those changes.

It really is a testament to success of Thatcherism and neoliberal agenda that some people genuinely believe that the seventh wealthiest nation on earth cannot afford to have affordable transport and energy, anything other than mass unemployment, a decent minimum wage, affordable housing, rent caps instead of welfare caps, and free university education.

And yet funnily enough the seventh wealthiest nation on earth has however a limitless supply of money available when it comes to paying for foreign wars. And there is of course there is a bottomless money pit to pay for updating our weapons of mass destruction, which we are constantly assured we will never need.

So there you have it - don't vote for change instead be content with some of the highest public transport costs in the world, over two million unemployed, crap minimum wages which have to be subsidized, exorbitant housing costs, exorbitant rents which aren't covered by housing benefits, and tertiary education which leaves young people with massive debts before they have even embarked on their chosen careers.

And btw before the days of the neoliberal consensus of the Tories, New Labour, and the Lib Dems, the UK had cheap transport and utilities costs, full employment, higher wages, affordable housing, a universal welfare state, and free university education. Funny that.

chewkw - Member

Voting Green is like voting for monster loony party innit?

Says the man who very sensibly votes UKIP.

BTW Binners, I'm more left than you'd think.

In a frankly weirdly contradictory way, I always think of you as a sort of Jewish Goebbels 😀

ernie_lynch - Member

"chewkw - Member

Voting Green is like voting for monster loony party innit?"

Says the man who very sensibly votes UKIP.

Loving the 'UKIP Carnival' in Croydon this afternoon. Farcical.

I don't have an issue with science, I have an issue with 'how science is deployed in making Mega-corp fantastically wealthy beyond the dreams if avarice whilst paying lip service to regulation and spending as little as possible on safety and whilst at the same time as making loud proclamations about the benefit to mankind of their beneficence, the actual object of the exercise is to enrich their coffers....with scant regard to the consequences of their actions That'll be what I have an issue with.

You bore me.

It's people like you that thwart the intentions of biology and make the future a horrible dystopia where people die from diseases that would otherwise have been cured long ago. For some inconceivable reason, people like you hate genetic engineering, cloning, weapon testing on prisoners of war and fun in general. You can't clone humans. You can't genetically engineer your kid to have super strength. You can't kidnap people, remove their stomach, and sew their esophagus to their duodenum. Where will it end?

P.S. Without lots of money from the private sector, we wouldn't be able to do our work. Considering the public will never want to spend the money to fund science 100 percent publicly. So personally, I quite like GSK and all the other evil corporations (apart from the hiding of unpublished results).

Sod it. You can't argue with idiots so why bother?

seems im a little at odds with their immigration views and their nuclear views, but the rest of the manifesto seems sensibleish

immigration we have little of control of within EU anyway and i cant see that improving (in my view) for the foreseeable.

nuclear - i dont see them having the casting vote.