[Closed] Why aren't there more women posting on the forum? Some research

i'm trained in self-awareness i'll have you know, 3 years at the European Institute of Health and Medical Sciences focussing on such reflective wonders 😛

anyway, its medication time, time to get my razzledazzle on

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Oh I hate it when the 80th post dissapears for no reason 🙁

Has Phil been lulled into Elf's trap??

You seek affirmation from your peers the same way most folk do. No harm in that, but trust me sonny, you display the same need to appear superior as many on here do. Granted, you do it in a more positive manner than others, but the basic need for affirmation and attention is the same.

Truth is, unless you know someone, you don't actually know what their intentions or true attitudes are really, so assuming things about them to fit into your own view is somewhat defensive and insecure ultimately.

Aren't these two statements, amde by the same person, just the teensiest bit contradictory?

You really don't know if people post here because they're interested in a topic, want to appear superior, are just argumentative idiots ... or all of the above. I can only speak for myself when I say that I post here either to have a chat ('cos that's fun), to inform, or just to piss about. The odd elliptical comment thrown into a conversation is always good for a laugh.

And I do find this place to be astonishing in every sense of the word; just today I've seen an excellent Chamonix video, a reference to the Pope Pius IX and the 1870 First Vatican Council's decgree on papal infallibility, a very positive update from a guy going through cancer treatment, a discussion with Brant on his frame-pricing strategy.....as well as the endless bickering between one guy and everyone else. All human life is here, both good and bad.

I don't like the sexism, but until there are more women telling people to shut the f*** up, it's unlikely to change. Lefty-liberal types (I'm one) are unlikely to change people's minds by telling the miscreants to play nicely, sad though that may be.

Polite request:

Elf and Phil - play nicely and stop frightening the girls.

but until there are more women telling people to shut the f*** up

Seeing as nobody's posted on here in the last 10 minutes and the argument looks like it's dying... surely we'd just ignore them if they were a female poster?

Medicine time surely? 😉

Am I just going to have to talk to myself on this one?

Yes, you're an idiot Yeti... a big smelly idiot... seeking self-affirmation by way of the internet.

😀 i'm not trying to argue CG, and its been a polite exchange littered with compliments 😛 you trying to start a fight with me young lady?! 😆

Yeah CG; stop trying to cause trouble sheesh you're always doing it no wonder poor shy insecure blokes like me and Phil are put off using the forum.. 😥

oi, i'm only insecure in the bedroom thank you very much!

Fighting, causing trouble - moi? A girl of nervous disposition, I'll have you know. 🙂

Where's Sammie-Louise? Haven't heard her simpering for a while. 😉

oi, i'm only insecure in the bedroom thank you very much!

For Christmas you could buy MrsConsequence a book on knots?

Only read the first post...Think we all know who she means when she talks about the creepy one

😆

the forum is a better place with you on it cougar. medical FACT.

In response to the points, and at risk of being shot down for both:

Life's about arguing, in general - there's two sides to every question, story and interesting article. Life would be really really dull if everyone agreed with everything you said and didn't argue. Why would you just agree with someone for the sake of it? And if you don't agree, until someone convinces you otherwise, laying down and accepting their point is a bit lame.

And in this case blokes appear to be stuck between a rock and a hard place - you're damned if you're an arse, and damned if you're friendly and show some support. Ho hum.

Life's about arguing, in general - there's [b]at least[/b] two sides to every question, story and interesting article.

FTFY HTH

life would indeed be very dull and indescribably fraught if everything only had two sides..

life would indeed be very dull and indescribably fraught if everything only had two sides..

I might go out on a limb and say pretty much everything is a binary choice when broken down, although when posting my original post I was thinking "more than" but simplified it somewhat by accident. But ultimately I don't care (enough to continue the discussion).

to be or not to be... what was the question...?

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i dont know what i'm doing with these buttons!

Does she attend a gym in the Midlands? 😉

life would indeed be very dull and indescribably fraught if everything only had two sides..

in fact in the case of buildings, downright draughty and unsafe too.

i wish people would consider the full ramifications before offering advice on the internets.

And there would be no triangles. Imagine life without triangles?

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Wouldn't be worth living

They're not actually triangles .......

i have three black jelly beans here if anybody wants then, collection only from Reading, UK.

And there would be no triangles. Imagine life without triangles?

I don't think Phthagoras realised how important his work was. Imagine if he was around today to see the practical applications in the form of Dairylea Cheese Triangles.

They're not actually triangles .......

Dairylea Triangle-Style Cheese wedges.

Think we all know who she means when she talks about the creepy one

You do yourself a disservice, Houns.

All the ladeeze know that what with your IBS, they are perfectly safe... 😉

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Where's Sammie-Louise? Haven't heard her simpering for a while.

is not she having her piles lasered or something?

Back to the OP:

[b]Possibly,[/b] statistically more mtb-ers are men than women

[b]Probably, [/b] women have better things to do with their time and are working harder. Multi-tasking doesn't extend to wasting time on internet fora!

Agree with what was said above; there are fewer women who ride bikes/ride mountainbikes and fewer women interested in the internet.

If you worked out how many male posters there are as a percentage of how many males cycle, and the same for women, maybe the number of posters, when expressed as a percentage of the female cycling population (rather than as per capita) is rather higher.

Maybe.

Favourite Definition of The Day: A Misogynist, one who hates every bone in a womens body, except his own....

.....somehow seems appropriate and explanatory.

I don't understand the desperate striving for more female members etc anyway to be honest - who's here is who's here, those who don't join I don't care about, those who do join could be either male or female or alien for all I care. Providing no-one feels personally attacked and bullied, ultimately it's all personal choice. If I didn't like it here I wouldn't expect people to be clammering to find ways of getting more coffeekings here, I'd expect life to go on as normal. Same with women in the sport - who cares? If it were all female and sod all males I don't see why I or anyone else would want to cautiously tippy-toe around me to make sure I felt included and didn't get put off. I don't think you'll find netball forums are full of women saying "we need to find ways of including more men in this sport, it's a disgrace that it's primarily women" do you?

in fact in the case of buildings, downright draughty and unsafe too.

Bus shelters are often 1 or 2 sided. While a tad draughty, I'll grant you that, they're safe 🙂

I lurked for ages before posting and it was a thread with Rachel explaining what she was going through that made me want to start posting here. When you lot want to be, you can all be so supportive. The piss taking was hard to understand at first, and I got really wound up by it until i got that it was mostly trying to be funny. The sexism on here can get a bit much sometimes and it was a bit ****y that it took me and sueW to say " we're going" before it got taken seriously but most of you got it!!

It's mostly good here and the times it's not I just don't post.

can't the mods just delete all the men until the number of men and wimmin active posters is equal? MODS! ARE YOU LISTENING? CAN YOU HEAR MY QUESTION?!

THERE ARE NETBALL FORUMS?!

The sexism on here can get a bit much sometimes and it was a bit ****y that it took me and sueW to say " we're going" before it got taken seriously

SPEAK UP GW, I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THEBUNKS SHOUTING!!!! 😀

The mods are listening..

Only 4 blokes left.

you weren't ever taken seriously (other than by "the creepy club"

What is 'creepy club'? Care to explain please because do not understand this concept. Thx.

You're still smarting over being made to look a bit silly, aren't you GW? 😉

Yes you are. Don't try pretending you're not.

Otherwise, you woon't have posted that provocative comment.

Now, stop being silly, focus and answer my question please.

What is 'creepy club'? Care to explain please because do not understand this concept. Thx.

Now, stop being silly, focus and answer my question please.

Happier now, creepy man? 8)

emsz - Member
it was a bit ****y that it took me and sueW to say " we're going" before it got taken seriously

I don't understand the desperate striving for more female members etc anyway to be honest

's not a "striving for more women," is it, it's a striving not to alienate a minority demographic or indeed, y'know, people generally.

To put it another way; if the topic was racism, you've effectively just come along and gone "I don't understand the desperate striving for more brown members etc anyway to be honest."

I can easily see how STW could be intimidating to new users, and why people would be hesitant to post. Personally I'm thick-skinned and too old and grumpy to give a tuppenny shite, my background is pre-web MUDs and BBSes which make STW look like a puppy pile, but the fact that we're missing out on a lot of potential contributors saddens me a little.

The serial arguers can be a problem when it gets heated, sure. But at least as bad (and IHMO worse) are the 'third man in' braying mob brigade that comes gleefully piling in going "yeah TJ / Cinic-Al, everyone knows you're a prick, remember this event from two years ago" in the middle of any debate.

You know when a lion kills an antelope, then when he's had his fill all the hyenas and vultures pick the corpse clean? That's you that is. Please stop it, it's unpleasant and unnecessary.

oh.. ok, then.. but I'll let the OP's friend's words do the answering

No, I'm interested in [i]your[/i] own explanation, not what Clubber's made up friend has to say.

So, try again.

I'm glad for you that you think your flounce made a difference.

Well, it got you mentioning it, din't it? 😆

Now I'm hearing the intro to Knight Rider. "One flounce, can make a difference."

Okay, I've come back as a woman. Just to be clear... I'm still trying to look up your skirts.

Sammie-Louise xx

If the women were forced into posting pictures of themselves we would have the following benefits

1. Creepy club members could determine whether or not to get creepy with them.

2. Less women would join meaning less women would get offended.

Feel free to comment, but to be honest I'm not really interested in your opinions (that's anyone, not just the women, does that make me equal ops?).

it was a bit ****y that it took me and sueW to say " we're going" before it got taken seriously

What the flip? 😯

Are there people who take things on internet forums [i]seriously[/i]?

Really?

How very very sad ...

Cougar - Member
...the fact that we're missing out on a lot of potential contributors...

Therein lies the problem.

Apparently there is a user filter available for some browsers. How about the mods get us a universal user filter so we can cut down on the amount of white noise? Preferably one that can be forum specific, eg have it on in chat and off in bike, or vice versa, as well as on both.

here's a picture of me, being blown away by Nick's suggestion...

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druidh - Member

emsz - Member
it was a bit ****y that it took me and sueW to say " we're going" before it got taken seriously
I'm glad for you that you think your flounce made a difference.

The forum has been bloody boring since... except for all this introspecitve naval gazing... this is fascinating.

Sammie-Louise xx

How very very sad ...

Please don't be sad.

The forum has been bloody boring since.

So don't bother with it then. Quite simple really, in't it?

Go and find a more interesting forum, if this one's 'boring'.

Hi Sammie-Lou (is it ok to call you Sammie-Lou?), if you want to use a computer it's much more comfortable to sit down, also the keyboard k-e-y-b-o-a-r-d is the bumpy thing in front of you (no, not those bumps 😳 ).

Happy to come round and give you some one to one tutoring, I've over 30 years experience of using computers and like to think of myself as both an expert and a good listener.

here's a picture of me, being blown away by Nick's suggestion...

My keyboard is full of tea.

My keyboard is full of tea.

Can I suck it up for you?

Sammie-Louise xx

I visit this place to:

A) Laugh at the idiots comparing e-cock sizes.

B) Laugh some more at them.

C) Buy/Sell bike gear

D) Find useful bike-related tech info (ironically for this thread about women, I've got quite a bit of 'girly related' info for mrs xiphon - saddles, helmets, clothes, etc)

To put it another way; if the topic was racism, you've effectively just come along and gone "I don't understand the desperate striving for more brown members etc anyway to be honest."

To be honest, I don't think I'd say anything different - while I'm not one of the usual OTT predators (or, I dont think!, the creepy ones), that this forum is any more or less sexist/racist/anythingist (except maybe roadie-ist) than the real world around me. Sure there's the odd moron who offends people, but there always is and they'll always be considered a moron by everyone. What we don't need is the seemingly constant striving to cleanse everything everyone says of any sort of identification of people being different from each other or worse striving to silence people so that some minority isn't mildly offended by the real world reflection. As I say, sure there's always someone willing to be overtly sexist or racist or somethingist, and they're idiots - we all know it, generally they're shouted down on a thread and the minority supported - that's fine, it's self policing. It just seems it's the only bloody thing to discuss here these days. I'm going to flounce off at the pathetic over-sensitivity of half the people on here and the even more stupid over-sensitivity of the people who won't post in case someone says something they don't like. I've got a coffee to make.

Lack of women made up for by surfeit of "old women"?

I've got a coffee to make.

By the looks of things, you might want to lay off the coffee actually...

All these threads have got me thinking... why is navel lint always slightly mauve in colour?

why is navel lint always slightly mauve in colour?

I have a cousin, who, when she was a little girl used to pick her nose and store them in her belly button. How sweet, huh?

Because you wear mauve clothes and don't wash your dirty selt often enough?

By the looks of things, you might want to lay off the coffee actually...

It has been said before, but I've only had one today. 🙂

constant striving to cleanse everything everyone says of any sort of identification of people being different from each other or worse striving to silence people so that some minority isn't mildly offended

"Political correction is the oppression of our intellectual movement so no one says anything anymore just in case anyone else get’s offended.

What happens if you say that and someone gets offended? Well they can be offended, can’t they? What’s wrong with being offended? When did stick and stones may break my bones stop being relevant? Isn’t that what you teach children? He called me an idiot! Don’t worry about it, he’s a dick.

Now you have adults going “I was offended, I was offended and I have rights!” Well so what, be offended, nothing happened. You’re an adult, grow up, and deal with it. “I was offended!” Well, I don’t care! Nothing happens when you’re offended. “I went to the comedy show and the comedian said something about the lord, and I was offended, and when I woke up in the morning, I had leprosy.”

Nothing Happens. “I want to live in a democracy but I never want to be offended again.” Well you’re an idiot.

How do you make a law about offending people? How do you make it an offense to offend people? Being offended is subjective. It has everything to do with you as an individual or a collective, or a group or a society or a community. Your moral conditioning, your religious beliefs. What offends me may not offend you. And you want to make laws about this? I’m offended when I see boy bands for god sake.

It’s a valid offense, I’m offended. They’re cooperate shills, posing as musicians to further a modeling career and frankly I’m disgusted."

quote from a comic iirc
who was it?

this forum is any more or less sexist/racist/anythingist (except maybe roadie-ist) than the real world around me.
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What we don't need is the seemingly constant striving to cleanse everything everyone says of any sort of identification

I don't disagree, but I don't believe it's an either / or situation (and I also don't believe that's what anyone really wants anyway).

You seem to be implying that the only standard of decorum is either "Old Trafford stag party at an all-you-can-drink Stella convention sponsored by Nuts magazine" or "black tie evening reception featuring guest speaker The Pope."

As an analogy, no-one's suggesting that you can't go to the pub and have a laugh with your mates; it's more that once you've got there we'd rather you didn't dip your knob in someone's pint, grab the breasts of the lone blonde in the night club going "bloody hell lads, you don't get many of them to the pound," and then get arrested on your way home for glassing someone after they looked at you a bit funny.

why is navel lint always slightly mauve in colour?

It's a byproduct of the bacteria that eats it. Truefax.

do people actually get belly button fluff? i thought it was made up for cartoons or something!

It's a byproduct of the bacteria that eats it. Truefax.

really? I knew there'd be something interesting on this thread!

Blimey - are you guys still at it? There's bikes to be be ridden you know ...

As an analogy, no-one's suggesting that you can't go to the pub and have a laugh with your mates; it's more that once you've got there we'd rather you didn't dip your knob in someone's pint, grab the breasts of the lone blonde in the night club going "bloody hell lads, you don't get many of them to the pound," and then get arrested on your way home for glassing someone after they looked at you a bit funny.

Cougar +1 - sums it it perfectly, plus made me giggle at the same time 🙂

joao3v16 - Member
...What’s wrong with being offended? When did stick and stones may break my bones stop being relevant? ...

Nothing much. But it makes threads tedious and boring as well as unpleasant.

joao3v16 - 'sticks and stones may break my bones' stopped being relevant a couple of weeks ago, for me at least, when my little lad, who has a learning disability and sensory integration problems was held down and kicked in the face by some of the older kids in school. This was about the time that Ricky Gervais was in the news for using the term 'mong', funnily enough. Not long after this, some eejit on here described the parents of kids with learning disabilities as 'over sensitive'. Now, I may have misunderstood your post, but you seem to be saying that nothing happens as a result of people being offensive. I for one would disagree with that.

cougars quote sums it up really
Some people come here just to do the knob dipping then tell us all we dont know how to have a good laugh once they have done it or we are easily offended.
You are right no one has the right to be offended but no one has the right to be offensive. real life reflects this far more than the internet IMHO

This thread just about sums up half you sad bastards.

Whether Clubber made it up or not, it's a good point well made. The cringeworthy way in which certain posters leap to a womans defense in the hope of gaining popularity with them, or hold discussions with each other about subjects not relating to the thread in an effort to make themselves look popular is beyond sad.

I'll put money on it than when the two female posters flounced, they received a number of sympathetic emails from creeps off here begging them to stay, offering them a shoulder to cry on and other such bollocks. Again, VERY sad

Oh, and I'd say the creepy club is fairly self-explanatory. Your actions creep women out, your intentions are blatent and despite you arguing the point you know its true. The more angry/argumentative you get, the more obvious it becomes.

Oh here we go; so expressing your own views that certain behaviour is out of order is 'creepy', is it?

I'm not gay. I find homophobia abhorrent. So, if I express my views that I find homophobia abhorrent, am I therefore 'creepy'?

Seems to me that this 'creepy' thing is something made up in the minds of certain posters who are just peed off that they no longer feel quite as comfortable posting their views on here. Diddums. Can't take criticism, have no coherent, rational argument, can't engage in a respectful and intelligent manner, so instead choose to resort to attempting to belittle others who have differing views to their own?

How very grown up....

nice closed loop there so if they respond it proves your point- quite weak
I have not read the thread fully but 2 points
1. were the actual women freaked out by the "freaky" men? - have they answered?
2. Why are we generalising to assume this one [ possibly fake] female poster can speak for all women? Is it just because she agrees with you?

I know for a fact a number of the posters have met the females. Is it really that surprising they defended their mates?

when the two female posters flounced, they received a number of sympathetic emails ... offering them a shoulder to cry on

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Nail on head flange. Nail on head

Imagine that the friend of Clubber did exist and has read this post. I'm guessing, and this is only a guess, that she's probably feeling pretty offended right now.

I bet if you ask Clubber nicely he'll give you her email address so you can engage plan b....

Can't take criticism, have no coherent, rational argument, can't engage in a respectful and intelligent manner, so instead choose to resort to attempting to belittle others who have differing views to their own?

Non-Coherent? irrational Argument? How so?

OP states that the way in which some posters 'pretend to care' comes across as creepy. I'm agreeing.

Well, I asked my friend Chantelle, right, and she din't want to join the forum but she did give me this response to post here:

I ain't into that mahntin biking, right, cos all you see is fat blokes wearing nasty cloves d'you nah wot I mean? I like men what are well buff an ting, innit? I ain't going on no mahntin bike ride wiv all dem sad old gits cos dey is well butters.

That's what she said. I'm not making it up or anything, honest

A fine representation of 'engaging in a respectful and intelligent manner'......

If Clubber's 'friend' indeed does actually exist, then surely she is free to come on here and express her own views, without you or anyone else needing to stick up for her or imagine she's 'offended'.

You're actually quite amusing.

Completely wrong and deluded, but amusing nonetheless. Thanks for providing me with some light entertainment whilst I struggle with some 3-D exploded diagram thingy (oh someone do it for me please I've had enough bloody fiddly thing). 😀

A fine representation of 'engaging in a respectful and intelligent manner'......

I'm giving this thread the respect it deserves...

I'm giving this thread the respect it deserves...

Ah right, so you've deemed its ok to not be respectful of other peoples views on here because....well, because you say so.

Carry on, creep....