[Closed] who was the greatest boxer of all time?

08 teams?

Rocky II

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bruno great guy but your having a laugh, really sad how it turned out for him.

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Ali was as much about personality and charisma as he was about ability. Shame he was a rude, self-righteous prick (who happened to be quite capable inside the ring).

Possible the best, but not IMO. Maybe only those who've genuinely witnessed 50yrs or so of talent can say whether he was. Unfortunate that he finds himself only a husk of the man he once was.

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fourcrossjohn

Did he win?

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spacemonkey - Member

fourcrossjohn

Did he win?

So far, yes, I think. Haven't re-visited the thread for a while, but he did put the agressor on his erse in round one. Ding ding!!

So far, yes, I think. Haven't re-visited the thread for a while, but he did put the agressor on his erse in round one. Ding ding!!

Nice. I'll check it out.

[s]who[/s] What was the greatest boxer of all time?

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Rocky Balboa

Audley Harrison. Eng of thread!!

Serious vote for me: Marvellous Marvin Hagler

Jimmy Wilde, by a farmer's mile

brad pit in Snatch. i believe that's a legal fact.

Arthur Abraham is technically very good and not a quiter. He lost his recent match but google him if you want to see how he coped in a previous.

At the weekend I watched a documentary on George Foreman and I must say I've alot of respect for the man outside of the ring.

Late 80s Tyson - untouchable.

that pikey fella from Epsom.. or Barry McGuigan..
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Late 80s Tyson - untouchable.

Sugar Ray Robinson is the consensus pick as best pound for pound boxer who ever laced them up. Even for such an impossible question, he's nearly always picked #1.

It's an even tougher question because the prime of boxing was 1900 - 1960ish, with the 1970 heavyweights being the swansong. So most of the real legends were dead before any of us were born.

Heavyweights I would say Tyson just shades Ali hard to tell as I am not sure the competition was so strong for Tyson, where Ali fought a few other great boxers.

Around I would go for Hagler, certainly the greatest fight I have seen.

Late 80s Tyson - untouchable.
LOL. I suppose someone had to say it.

Do you remember watching him as a 19 year old? Pure aggression and power. Before he went off the rails he was unstoppable.

Ali never did it for me. Too full of his own self importance.

I guess the real best pound for pound lighter has to be one of the Cubans. Stevenson perhaps?

Caroline Dearing is the undisputed world boxing champion. Capable of 'wrapping and packing' a 5 bedroom, 3 storey town house in 4hrs 32secs she has no known breakages to her name

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Well, if we're going to be serious, then in the modern era it's Chavez no question.

Sure, Tyson was awesome and more than that be carried the whole sport on his back for about 10 years. But he never fought anyone in his prime (an auld Larry Holmes and a past it Michael Spinks don't count). You can't compare Tyson to a heavyweight legend like Ali or Joe Louis, they're just in different solar systems.

Tyson and Lennox Lewis would be a more reasonable comparison. Could argue the toss for one or the other either way.

Lennox Lewis would be a more reasonable comparison.

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If Hagler was good,then Sugar Ray Leonard,who beat him,Roberto Duran,Wilfredo Benitez and Thomas Hearns,was much better.
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Tyson in his prime would have spanked Lewis all over the show! He was like a mythical monster in his day, most of the opposition lost all heart before he had swung a punch.

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If Hagler was good,then Sugar Ray Leonard,who beat him,Roberto Duran,Wilfredo Benitez and Thomas Hearns,was much better.
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Great boxers lose fights too, but each fighter at their best, then I reckon Hagler would have won. Hearns and Duran also beat SR.

What a great era for middleweight boxing that was, I can't think of any other era with so many top notch boxers fighting at around the same weight. As well as those top four there was also another half dozen that wasn't far off and would probably been champions in anther era.

hagler
leonard
chaves
marciano
roy jones jr
joe louis
robinson
ali
mayweather

all could contend for the greatest boxer ever.

Henry Armstrong
Roberto Duran
Sugar Ray Robinson
Muhammad Ali
Manny Pacquiao

But on a forum where someone calls Muhammad Ali a "prick" I'm not discussing any further. 😕

as above and....

Julio César Chávez
Arturo Gatti
Joe Calzhage

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Agreed that for probably a 2 year period Tyson would have destroyed any fighter that got in the ring with him, but he's not the greatest fighter of all time. No enduring legacy, not great enough competition in the division and ultimately beaten by James Buster Douglas.

He was one of the few real boxers whose highlights showreel looked like it was made by hollywood though. I remember seeing one fight where an uppercut actually lifted his opponent off of his feet, and that's only supposed to happen in cartoons.

According to lots of folk on forums, Chainreactioncycles have been posting small items such as chain links, rotor bolts, gear cables and wrong things in at least A4 sized cardboard boxes, often much bigger. They must be the greatest boxers of all time

Pure aggression and power

Ali was as much about personality and charisma as he was about ability. Shame he was a rude, self-righteous prick (who happened to be quite capable inside the ring).

+1 he pretty much destroyed the life of Joe Frasier (who by the way fought most of his career pretty much blind in one eye, and beat Ali)

if you could organise a fight between Tyson and Ali both in their prime Tyson would of ripped him apart, Ali struggled against fighters who kept on coming, and tyson was the best at getting inside and letting rip.

best pound for pound IMO would be sugar ray or Hagler.

The only person to beat Tyson was Tyson, Buster Douglas was just lucky to catch him on his way down. I wasn't daying Tyson was the greatest, just that Lewis wouldn't have bothered him.

I think it is an era thing, Ali leaves me cold, a bit like Elvis I just don't get it.

Calzaghe would maybe get my vote, undefeated and walked away in one piece. Not many can say that!

tyson under cus da mata (sp??)- unbeatable

buster douglas was lucky with the choice of ref that day...

Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao for me. Ten titles in eight different weights, you can't argue with that. 52 wins,3 loses and 2 draws. He had a poor upbringing but has managed to keep his feet on the ground.

I think that Tyson in his prime would have beaten anyone, as said above some of his opponents were beaten before they even got into the ring. The guy was just pure aggression and power, quite unstoppable. Shame he went off the rails.

Did someone mention Calzaghe?

He was great at slapping his opposition, but I never actually saw him throw a real punch! 😉

Tyson is a fave of mine, just because I grew up in that era, he was unbelievable to watch, a pure powerhouse and spectacle.

In terms of British boxers, Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank have to be considered.

Oh, and maybe Glenn McCrory. 😉

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Kobe, Ozzy or Chyna or perhaps our latest addition Kona
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I would have agreed with the comments about Ali not beeing all he was built up to be. All I remember of Ali was as a child hearing my parents talking about one of his last fights saying he should have quit earlier which clearly he should have done given what it has reduced him to.

BUT if you watch 'When We Were Kings' the documentary about the Rumble in the Jungle, it is incredible to watch a man get thoroughly beaten up round after round and then turn it all around in the second half of the fight. It was an amazing fight and he was clearly an amazing fighter.

Foreman should have won and he should have had greater ability but Ali worked his own strengths to perfection and that makes him the better boxer.