Last night local milk man was knocking on doors asking if we wanted milk delivered everyday...
I'm all up for keeping business local and keeping people in work etc but the prices were almost twice the price for 4 pints or .30p more for a pint !
I also want to save money !
Something don't add up !
Where do you get your milk from ?
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Local milk man. For the premium it's worth having guaranteed milk in the morning rather than the trudge of shame to the garage.
I'm all up for keeping business local and keeping people in work etc but the prices were almost twice the price for 4 pints or .30p more for a pint !
Twice the price of what, the super low supermarket prices that mean farmers are struggling? Yeah what a scumbag.
milky to the door. He tends to come sometime between 1am and 3am. 3 days a week.
Brilliant. 60p a pint. But worth it for the convenience and of course keeping the business going.
Delivered from a farm in the next village.
Approx 35 pints and 48 eggs a month is £26.
Which reminds me, I must reduce the amount of milk as it isn't all consumed every week.
House on our road used to belong to the local milk man, he sold up maybe 15 years ago and his massive fridge is now a 1 bedroom flat...
Milk man. Hate having to buy milk from supermarkets
Milkman here too.
Milk man. Support local small business.
No Milkman as when asked he won't deliver before 8a.m., when we've already gone to work, and higher prices. So paying more with a poor service...
Milkman. Support the farmers, drink locally produced milk, better for you and tastes so much better than supermarket stuff. Oh and my recycling bin is no longer full of plastic.
no local farms near us as I'm in the evil epicentre of the UK
I'd love to support local business, but I saw our milkman delivering the other day - at 9.00
That's why I get my milk from sansbo's. Might ask around about other deliveries but I think he's the only one
If they still have gold top why not! Oh and OP nice pic of me there
Milkman here too. I've no idea how much a pint of milk costs! Nice not to be filling up the bins with plastic cartons. I think he delivers about 5am but must have had ninja training as I'm a light sleeper and never hear him.
We use a local milk man - two deliveries a week (two litre bottles - no idea why he uses plastic rather than traditional bottles) cost us £3.98.
I think I am mad.
Milkman until a few weeks back - was becoming more and more random, too many bottles/not enough/semi skimmed. It was the semi skimmed that finished me off, hate it.
Our village milkman that comes through the villages three time a week is literally giving it away.
So an insomnia driven night turns into a stay up till 4 am day to save whatever the supermarket price is plus it's delivered to me.
Anything to get my milky fix.
We did for a couple of weeks in March - it was more than twice the price of supermarkets (£2 for 2 litres) but hey, I'm supporting a 'local business' (Fife here) according to the chap who got my wife to sign up.
After checking the packaging, turns out the farm selling the milk is a mega dairy based out of warwickshire.
cancelled. I'd have been happy (ish) paying it to a local farmer, or even a local coop.
Local farm from the local grocery store
I'm supporting a 'local business' (Fife here) according to the chap who got my wife to sign up.
Isn't the local business the guy delivering it?
[i]Local milk man. For the premium it's worth having guaranteed milk in the morning rather than the trudge of shame to the garage. [/i]
+1
Ours is very local, also owns the local shop. We get 3x 4 pints and £5 per week, so 40p per pint - delivered about 6ish.
We also have him at work, which is 10 miles away from the shop - very rural location.
You're not just paying for the milk, you're paying for it to be sat outside your house when you get up.
We have a milkman 3 times per week. The milk isn't expensive, its the correct price. The supermarkets are ripping farmers off and customers have got used to cheap milk, which isn't right imo.
You're not just paying for the milk, you're paying for it to be sat outside your house when you get up.
But with a tiny bit of planning that shouldn't be a problem – buy a 'spare' bottle and stick it in the freezer then, should you run low just get the one out of the freezer so it is ready next day. Then, when you next do a shop, simply buy another spare.
Our milkman couldn't deliver at a time or price that suited us.
I don't know why I should support a business just because its local. It would need more reasons than that.
I pay for efficiency, service and want value for money - supermarkets deliver food to my door now, so my fridge gets filled once a week without much effort.
Does the farmer actually see the extra though? Or are they still being ripped off and you're just paying extra for convenience?We have a milkman 3 times per week. The milk isn't expensive, its the correct price. The supermarkets are ripping farmers off and customers have got used to cheap milk, which isn't right imo.
Well I have just cancelled our 'local' milk delivery after reading this thread. It turns out that McQueen's Diaries simply buy their milk from First Milk and redistribute it which is very different to what they told my wife.
Basically I was paying a 100% premium over supermarket prices for what is just supermarket milk just so I can have it delivered to my door. But I already get supermarkets delivering to my door so back to getting the milk from Tesco....
We signed up an elderly neighbour to get a delivery and just pop out and lift it before they notice.
The "right" price is the one your customers are happy paying.
No Milkman as when asked he won't deliver before 8a.m., when we've already gone to work, and higher prices. So paying more with a poor service...
Yep, we very reluctantly cancelled ours for the same reason: they seemed pretty surprised that delivering after we had gone to work was a problem.
Currently supermarket. I'm waiting for a local dairy to start delivering direct but they haven't got up and running yet.
The "right" price is the one your customers are happy paying.
that would drive everyone out of business..
it's what the market will bear most of the time.
for what is just supermarket milk
supermarket milk seems to be a lot more consistent and a bit creamier - no idea what they put in it but I tried some organic Duchy from the supermarket the other day and it is much more like the milkmans stuff, which is somewhat reassuring.
Supermarket.
Did have a milkman for a good few years but it was the absence of
that was the problem.guaranteed milk in the morning
Some little scrote on his way to work would occasionally help himself to the milk sat on our doorstep.
We binned our delivery a few years ago - mainly because in the summer it was often warm (and went off very quickly) and in the winter it would freeze. Also the diesel truck at 2 or 3 in the morning woke me up.
Tesco now deliver 10 pints a week ... and stays fresh.
Pretty sure we get ours from the local dairy too but then again they do process a billion litres each year! So we'd be in the minority if we didn't - milkman delivery no thanks
8.65 euro for 2 pints delivered monday, wednesday and friday (Milk deliveries are/were a tad rare in ireland)
Bit of a premium, but the milk is there every day without fail before I get up and it stops having to pop out to the supermarket where you would without fail pick something else up.
Can adjust your order on-line which is ace for holidays and the like (oh and he delivers extra on a bank holiday weekend, which is nice).
Works for me.
Milkman, locally sourced milk. 68p a pint
Happy to be helping local business. More often than not delivered before 0600.
I get our meat from the local butcher as well, and it is way better than supermarket stuff..!
Ocado are my local milk man. Bring it when I request it every week. 77.5p per litre.
We gave up on the milk deliveries very quickly. I'm happy paying the extra.
I'm not happy when it arrives after we've gone to work and has all day to go off.
On the vague subject of milk: cravendale (which I am sure is gigantic evil milk) says it's "filtered for freshness". What's that about, then?
We get our work milk delivered as we are quite a way out of town. I was chatting to the man last week and he told me that he gets up at 11pm on week days to be on the road by 1am to collect his milk for the days deliveries. He comes to us at around 9am. By the time he's finished his days work he gets around one hours sleep before he's up again at 11pm....
On sundays he sleeps in till 5am.
says it's "filtered for freshness". What's that about, then?
It is filtered so it stays fresher for longer.
By the time he's finished his days work he gets around one hours sleep before he's up again at 11pm....
You are making that bit up aren't you?
Nope, thats what he told me.. I asked him why he look totally knackered!
When I had a milk round as a Saturday/holiday job in my teens, I was up at 3.30, first round at 4, popped in for a second breakfast at 7, back out at 7.30, home for 9.30, third breakfast then bed till 12.30 to get up for lunch.
Many memorable moments over those 4 years.
I'd love to support the local farm/milkman, but the amount we go through, MrsMC insists on supermarket specials.
Nope, thats what he told me.. I asked him why he look totally knackered!
I doubt the human body could physically survive on 1 hour's sleep 6 nights a week.
We use to get milk delivered, we liked the fact that they would deliver fresh milk 2/3 times a week. However they kept getting the order wrong - no apologies when I contacted them; then deliveries would often be late (delivered after 8am) so the milk went off. Dairy Crest who supplied our milkman paid less to the dairy farmers milk (just under 22p according to this [url= http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/aug/06/dairy-farmers-call-for-supermarkets-boycott-as-milk-price-falls ]article[/url]) than the local supermarkets despite being 3 times the cost!. We recently bought the milk from Safeway that gave an additional 10p to farmers but it went off before the best before date. I now just buy the fresh filtered white stuff.
gets up at 11pm on week days to be on the road by 1am
**** me - even my wife's faster at getting ready to go out than that.
On the basis no-one's going to see (or smell) you, I'd be up at about 0057 to be on the road by 0100
Sadly, I think milk people are a dying breed, leading the way of the dodo for posties.
We stopped ours after having kids.
Ours was annoying in the summer - he roared up the road in his transit at 3am waking us up before screeching up the road
We have a milky. I've never seen him as it turns up early in the morning. We did it to support the local farm and if they did fish fingers we'd have them as well
supermarket milk seems to be a lot more consistent and a bit creamier - no idea what they put in it but I tried some organic Duchy from the supermarket the other day and it is much more like the milkmans stuff, which is somewhat reassuring.
Homogenized/emulsified.
You add a chemical to the milk to dissolve the cream into the milk so it doesn't float on top.
The chemical has the side effect of giving the milk an even creamier mouthfeel, because that's normally the result of the emulsion and the emulsifier is just a really good emulsion (obviously).
Same stuff goes into fat free anything, to make it feel like it's not just water.
Milkman with the milk sources locally.
We also get orange juice from once a week.
He's certainly diversifying- you can get scotch eggs, newspapers and other bits if you want too.
One of the neighbours has the milk delivered every day.
By a milk van that sounds like Ken Block's car. Every day
That turns round outside our house. Every day
At 3:30 am. EVERY DAY.
Milkmen / women will go the way Blockbusters went - they just cant compete with competitors, cant supply what customers want and wont survive on us feeling charitable.
They sell a product that's the same whoever sells it. So they have to compete on price and service.
This has been gradually happening for decades, those that are left are either deluded, slow to grasp the change or clinging on for the short term.
They should start offering unpasteurised stuff from vending machines in garage forecourts.
Or drugs.
I was in Aldi just before Christmas, guy in front of me has a jacket on with the logo of my local farmy type milk supplier. He had a trolley rammed with milk and and another full of eggs. Lass on the till reckoned he bought that lot on a daily basis..... 😆
Our milkman is fantastic. Not only does he deliver milk but many other groceries too, at any time of day we choose, and his website is [i]massive.[/i] I think he's called Mr Sainsbury.
We use a local milk man - two deliveries a week (two litre bottles - no idea why he uses plastic rather than traditional bottles) cost us £3.98.
Because he's buying in bulk from ASDA and sticking fresh labels on. (-:
It turns out that McQueen's Diaries simply buy their milk from First Milk
First Milk is a co-operative of dairy farmers so theoretically the money goes to the farmers.
Milkmen / women will go the way Blockbusters went - they just cant compete with competitors, cant supply what customers want and wont survive on us feeling charitable.They sell a product that's the same whoever sells it. So they have to compete on price and service.
Sadly, I think that's the long and short of it. It's probably still viable if you live in the Outer Hebrides or some middle-class remote rural armpit with a name like Wibblington Upon Flange, or if you're elderly / infirm and can't lug a gallon of milk home every time you venture outside, but for most people the elephant in the room is that there's little compelling practical reason to have milk delivered these days.
I get the whole "supporting local business" thing - when I was born my first home was our family-run dairy farm - but at the point where customers are paying a large premium to buy exactly the same product they could just pick up with the rest of the groceries, really they're just making a nostalgia-fuelled charitable donation. And it's hardly surprising that local farmers are struggling if that's the farmers' primary business model. So then they're forced to be reliant on selling to supermarkets, and the supermarkets know they've got them over a barrel.
Back when my folks delivered milk, the customers' choice was "local farmer" or "no milk today thanks." My grandparents used to have a horse & cart where they'd ladle out fresh milk from a churn on the cart. Easy enough to make a business when your customer is basically everyone. That's just not viable any more.
I think what's needed is a unique selling point, and maybe a broadening of service. Still-warm freshly baked farmhouse bread delivered for instance, I'd pay for that in a heartbeat.
Real milkman here; we don't care if the milk is more expensive. It's a small price to pay for fighting back against the avarice of the supermarkets who have put so many honest people out of business by forcing prices so low.
milkman proper glass bottles 50p a pint seems good to me
Globalti - its also all the honest shoppers who want better value for money and convenience that force the price down.
Not just the big buying power of supermarkets.
Raw milk direct (self-serve vending machine) from the dairy round the corner for £1/litre.. happy to pay a bit more when it goes direct to source.
I gave up on the milkman after too many days when he came after I'd gone to work and I came home to find a warm bottle of yoghurt pecked open by birds on the doorstep.
Despite all the warm feelings we may have for them (I remember being allowed to give a sugar lump to the milkman's horse when I was little) the milkman's really an anachronism from the days before we all had fridges. And if you want to support farmers, get your milk from one of the big supermarkets that have arrangements to give the farmers a fair price, not the independents who can't prevent the processors from screwing the farms.
I now buy locally from a place down the road (via a supermarket):
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Your "local" milkman may well get it from somewhere similar.
"its also all the honest shoppers who want better value for money and convenience that force the price down."
If by better value you mean - want the same thing cheaper at all costs, screw the other guy then yeah that....
When we had 3 kids at home we bought milk 6Ltrs at a time. Twice a week or more. Couldn't afford to pay milkman prices. We did try milk delivery as well but our milkman didn't deliver every day and it arrived after 8am. So it didn't fill the always having a pint in the morning niche. Not sure how local it was either. The farmhouse was just down the road but there was no cows on their land. It's now a housing development.
Milk. Old people drink that.
Seriously though, every day? what are you doing with it. We buy a pint every 6 weeks, for people to put in tea. most of it gets binned.