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Local supermarket in Copenhagen was completely normal today, nothing sold out except hand sanitiser
As it was in my local co-op in Devon last night. I even bought some toilet roll (only the posh stuff mind, panic only seems to stretch so far). No own brand paracetamol seemed to be the only shortage.
In Berkshire I couldnt get any yeast to make pizza today!! No bog roll, no pasta, very little tinned goods, no hand sanitizer.
Has anyone else been looking at DIY alternatives to off the shelf hand sanitizer? I appreciate washing hands is optimum but for out and about hand cleaning it would be good to hear what all you budding Breaking Bad chefs are upto. Cheers
Google 'WHO hand sanitizer recipe'.
Basic things you need are glycerol/glycerine (baking section of supermarket, you don't need much) and 99% Isopropyl Alcohol.
dazh
SubscriberSpoke to my dad today who has Type 2 diabetes, mum with COPD. He said it’s ok, they don’t go anywhere apart from the supermarket and him to the golf club. Said if there’s a lock down that he’ll only go to the shops. Told him he might not be allowed to leave the house and that he should plan how to get supplies delivered to them, to which he replied, ‘they can’t do that, we’re not a totalitarian state’. I don’t think the penny has dropped yet. At least it means he didn’t rush off to the supermarket with everyone else.
My mum has COPD and is pretty close to housebound, I'd set myself up to be her only contact and cut my own contact with others to get as much barrier as I can... She's booked her hairdresser to come over tomorrow because "she needs her hair washed". Parents eh
Cool, was just checking to see what other folk are doing. I've gone down the ethanol route which is still widely available from B&Q for £7 for 2litres at 95%!
Couldn't you just wash them with soap?
Has anyone else been looking at DIY alternatives to off the shelf hand sanitizer? I appreciate washing hands is optimum but for out and about hand cleaning it would be good to hear what all you budding Breaking Bad chefs are upto. Cheers
Seen recipe with 2/3 99% alcohol to 1/3 aloe vera gel, which seems simple but my experience is that trying to mix aloe vera gel produces a thick snotty mess - not sure why!
Dunblane - docs a staff member confirmed, pupil and parent at high school confirmed, parent at one of the primary schools confirmed, local football coach confirmed.
I'm assuming that everywhere else is on a similar level of cases.
Stay safe folks.
I’m assuming that everywhere else is on a similar level of cases.
Who knows, testing has stopped as far as early warning goes.
Little old lady 2 doors down is self isolating.... She's an avid Yoga Guru so Lord only knows how she's going to get on...
Me: Are you ok? haven't seen you for a few days?
Her: (through the letterbox) Yes love, I'm self isolating.. now if you don't mind stepping away from the door (she bursts out laughing)
🤪
Juanking.
Understanding your history if there's anything I can do to help let me know. You have my details.
Happy to hit the shops etc. We both have dependants but if I catch it it's going to hurt but not nearly as much as it could take out of you.
Is it time for an STW sponge on a stick guide for when the last big roll sheet is gone?
Such mixed messages will just result in, “they don’t know what they’re doing, it’s all a load of stuff and nonsense”.
To be fair even if a lot of people were warned they were about to be slapped in the face with a wet haddock they would say "stuff and nonsense" even if you were stood in front of them mid-backswing with a wet haddock.
Some older-sounding bloke phoned into Sara Cox on friday (bear with me, the kids like it) and requested "It's the end of the world as we know it" by REM as he'd "survived the end of the world at least five times already" in his lifetime.
Cheerful fatalist or bellend?
There are a lot of people out there who still really think that 'we' are different and special and "that couldn't happen here". Which is fine unless they submit others to unnecessary risk, which they will, because if there's one thing people like this enjoy more than 'surviving the end of the world AGAIN' is telling as many people as possible about it.
requested “It’s the end of the world as we know it” by REM
Which is apparently trending in various charts around the world.
Went to the pub last night, this was on the bar:
I did ask how much a shot... 😁
Pretty sure that healthy 10yo to 60yo households will need to keep calm and carry on, will be looking out for parents in law (as in doing their shopping) but otherwise no panic setting in in dB towers, if it gets to it will be happy to volunteer where necessary. Would be quite different if my dad was still with us.
Dunblane – docs a staff member confirmed, pupil and parent at high school confirmed, parent at one of the primary schools confirmed, local football coach confirmed.
I’m assuming that everywhere else is on a similar level of cases.
Whole of Bradford only has six cases confirmed. Up 2 from yesterday. But it will come, I'm sure.
Wife has decided to develop a fairly hefty cough in the last 24hrs - should make for an interesting time with a 2 y/o and 9 month old kicking around! On a positive note, we’ve already got reusable bum wipes...
Is it time for an STW sponge on a stick guide for when the last big roll sheet is gone?
Vaseline, applied pre-emptively.
I said it before, I'll be bagging some squirrels for that eventuality.
Cheers Terry. I'm being very selective at the moment and will be for the foreseeable!
@mashr you shouldn’t admit to wiping your arse on your kids
Can’t see anything against it in the guidelines
Can’t see anything against it in the guidelines
Now we are in the denial stage you should be social distancing. Take to the hills like someone else said and use heather.
Edit. I meant delay, I was getting confused by the government’s random policy choices and revisions.
Is it time for an STW sponge on a stick guide for when the last big roll sheet is gone?
There's a Viz technical drawing showing how to convert your bike to a cleaner doing the rounds - seems to work on the dry on grind off principle
I just figured out the toilet paper thing!
Some daft bastard must have thought it was Cornholio virus!
Sphagnum could be another loo paper replacement - Ride Sheffield will have to start checking people aren't stealing those moss plants next planting day.
There’s a Viz technical drawing showing how to convert your bike to a cleaner doing the rounds – seems to work on the dry on grind off principle
How long before a ‘what tyre’ thread or someone moaning because the machine was devised ‘back in the day’ and it won’t take 29er wheels?
How long before a ‘what tyre’ thread or someone moaning because the machine was devised ‘back in the day’ and it won’t take 29er wheels?
Or if rimpact should be fitted and what pressure
makes your arse crack come alive
Looks like a 29er to me
Jesus. I hope to god this is an example of fake news..
https://twitter.com/lukecooper100/status/1239273400545292289?s=21
The Washington Post article was good.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/
It looks like a “medium” social distancing ends up with more people in the pink section than the “extreme” version.
Obviously missing the 1% of dots disappearing...
I've got a couple of queries. Not sure if this has been covered.
As the UK government have decided not to bother with testing now and only doing it for hospital admissions (according to gp friend) how do people know if they have had it or not and wether they then have some immunity from it. For reference all last week I was ill and still not fully right now but would have no idea if it was covid or not.
Secondly, and more confusing for me so hope someone can explain it in a way I'll understand. If essentially the whole globe is facing a recession what would stop global quantative easing. Just print a shit load of money and distribute it about?
Pete
(Re: document referred to in that Guardian link)
This is why you need slack in the staffing of your healthcare system, not run it with as few staff as you can get away with.
Someone on the French TV debate tonight said something to the effect of thankfully I'm not in the UK. The difference between Euro reporting and UK reporting hasn't been as high since the run up to the gulf war. The "herd" approach ain't gonna work folks.
Anyhow, junior has flown into isolation in Berlin and I've been told to stay home in Pau with Madmame who's school was ordered shut on Friday. Nothing is open apart from food shops, pharmacies and petrol stations. The anomaly was still running local elections today which I boycotted, first time I haven't voted in local elections. Doubt there'll be a second round.
France has the same population as the UK. The herd approach won't work because if 15% of a population of 60 million are infected then France needs 10 times the number of ventilators that can be amassed in the coming weeks. Either tens of thousands of deaths are acceptable including many young economically active people or you don't use the herd approach, you isolate.
Don't trust your anglo-saxon media sources, you're being misled.
*waves from isolation*
That guardian link is the first I've seen to admit 1% mortality rate means 1/2million deaths.
Government reckon they can get it to 0.6% , & just 1/3rd million .
Let's hope so, NHS in theory is highly centralised & well placed to manage the crisis, but obviously staffing & bed shortages are going to be big factors in keeping mortality rate down
For reference all last week I was ill and still not fully right now but would have no idea if it was covid or not.
That's the roulette element, you only really know if you are in a chain and someone gets it bad. Keeps everyone washing!
I'm in mild manflu met the criteria for self isolation isolation at the moment. The worst part having to say no sympathy please I might need it properly later but hopefully not. Chewing through my random provisions, if it's hard to get stuff going to be a week closer to tasty rice diet when I'm out. Think I'm good for tasty rice for a couple of weeks. Just wondering how came to own so many sauce sachets.
Secondly, and more confusing for me so hope someone can explain it in a way I’ll understand. If essentially the whole globe is facing a recession what would stop global quantitative easing. Just print a shit load of money and distribute it about?
Of course, the money isn't 'printed' but it is just created on a computer and then presumably is distributed to the high street banks. When the banks have access to free cash, this creates confidence in the market and so, in theory, stabilizes the market. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. Of course, the issue is that central banks magic this money out for investors and shareholders, but if they'll do that for the ordinary person who cannot afford their rent/mortgage/food etc., given the circumstances, I'm really not sure, but considering the it's the Tories, I am not optimistic.
QE can only go so far, because ultimately the economy depends on circulation of money (this was a key criticism of QE after the 2008 crash - the banks just sat on the cash). Money has no inherent value by itself and is only 'real' when it is spent i.e. circulated and that there is actual economy activity to warrant that - i.e. people going to work, creating demand in shops, cafes, production and supply lines having energy/labour to function. What would be much better than giving the banks the cash would be to give it directly to people, as they did in Australia in 2009. This would create a surge in the economy as most people would spend it - would have to spend it - and therefore it would circulate.
I think this sort of situation is unprecedented - even in war times you develop a war economy which sees high employment and demand for products, so there is intense economic activity. But this is the opposite - if the peak is going to be June, are we going to see borders, flight and travel bans, etc. until June? Unless the government steps in, how are people going to pay their rent after a month or two, once their savings dry up? Now they're saying that even though it will peak in June, it will return in November - the aviation industry will liquidate in weeks, not months, unless there is some sort of bailout. Maybe larger companies can negotiate but a lot of small/medium operators will go bust and of course all this has an accumulative effect as job loses undermine consumer confidence, etc. It really is a worrying situation.
I'm trusting in science - it might feel wrong, but IANAE.
https://twitter.com/Tankslider/status/1239218989793980416
I work in Switzerland & live just across the border in France, Aerospace work so we have our own un-manned border turnstile solely for the use of employees.
Currently business as usual at the supermarkets, a few empty shelves but nothing major yet.
Employer is taking the temperature of everybody coming on to the site on arrival
My wife is still in the UK, now working from home, we've decide that I'll be staying here for the foreseeable future, as getting stranded in the UK without the ability to work & earn (I'm a contractor) would be a catastrophe for us. I normally go home every other weekend, heart wants to go back but following my head, for the moment.
Main concern is for the kids, Daughter is 19 & away at Uni, although for how much longer we're not sure & Son has graduated & works away, but still living in a house of Uni students.
Then there's elderly parents...
Sorry, nothing really to add just needed to join the conversation.
Will be interesting to see how my guidance here agrees or contradicts what the families advice will be at home.
This is why you need slack in the staffing of your healthcare system, not run it with as few staff as you can get away with.
Or not run it with as little money as you can get away with, either.
Government reckon they can get it to 0.6% , & just 1/3rd million .
Presumably they won’t be showing their workings for that one either.
From what I can glean from reading around seemingly respectable opinion, the consensus seems to be 2% minimum. That’s 750,000 in the UK and that is a huge problem.
NHS in theory is highly centralised & well placed to manage the crisis,
Most definitley not true, they need 20 times the number of ventilators they've got on the basis of French, Spanish and Italian experience. The NHS cannot cope with what the government is planning not to do as it stands and with 20% of medical staff sick to deal with 50 times the number of sick the numbers will never stack up. The only way they might just stack up is if the UK adopts the same strategy as Italy, France, Spain, South Korea, Germany Wuhan... .
Either the UK adopts the same measures as Italy in the days to come or the final outcome will be worse than Italy.
Just heard (from the horse's mouth) about someone at work who's tested positive. Grand total of symptoms was a minor fever lasting 12 hours.
I slept badly on Friday night feeling slightly feverish but no other symptoms, which I put down to the hotel air conditioning. Second thoughts now.
That guardian link is the first I’ve seen to admit 1% mortality rate means 1/2million deaths.
Government reckon they can get it to 0.6% , & just 1/3rd million .
Let’s hope so, NHS in theory is highly centralised & well placed to manage the crisis, but obviously staffing & bed shortages are going to be big factors in keeping mortality rate down
Err no!
Might be 1% for cases 0-10,000, but for cases 10K to 50M it will be 5-10%+
Just to repeat, they are saying 7.9M will need hospitalisation.
Let’s say they can get an even distribution and each person has a 2 week stay, they’ll need 300k beds/fortnight. We currently have 8K free beds and 1K ICU.
Whitty was mentioning the 1% and 80% infection on the news briefing, the 2 are mutually incompatible, it was at this point I realised he was either an idiot or a liar.
From speaking to people today and friends over the last few days I think this is shaping into a situation where the general public and companies are going to completely take the initiative on how to fight this, the government is so far behind the reality it's unreal. Every announcement Boris and Co make is already out of date or just completely unworkable, meanwhile people are working from home, self-isolating or suspending their business activities well before the politicians have even got to that stage. We're in a completely arse-backwards scenario where we are showing the MP's how to do it!
Edukator, as of today’s data, the epidemics in France and U.K. are tracking together. Doubling time for cases and deaths is a constant 2.5-2.9 days. Italy is also growing still at the same rate. I hope that we don’t see an acceleration in the U.K., which would be evidence of the intervention (or absence).
The biggest outlier from the data is South Korea. They have nailed it.
Before I did drugs (well Clinical Pharmacology) I did mathematical epidemiology with the Imperial group. I’m updating predictions daily. Italy’s reported new deaths today was, sadly in line with prediction. Still waiting to see a deviation for. The curve.
Doesn't matter, a third of a million deaths is almost the same as the UKs total deaths during the war (civilian and military), half a million is around the same and anything above is more! And that's in a shorter time span! That's mental.
I hope they start giving George Crosses out to medical staff and "Help for Heroes" is extended to medical staff. I'd rather have taken my chances in Afghanistan.
I suppose this was one way of finding the war time Brexit spirit to take us to our sunny uplands and Spitfires.
I’m trusting in science – it might feel wrong, but IANAE.
Interesting.
The main point from the bucket video was when he said that 'we only get one shot at containment' so the timing has to be right.
But molgrips , the absolute expert on everything ever has smugly spaketh ......
US response on TV now seems much more clear and competent than the UK.
I do not trust BJ or JRM or Pretti Vacant at all. In fact I wouldnt out it past that lot to accept that roughly 250,000 OAP's will meet a premature end over the next few months. Saving the government a ton of cash in pensions payments and healthcare
Freeing up bedblockers by killing them off , means less woork for the NHS overall
Then we all get infected and go through the 2 weeks isolation , but then we are the fastest to come through the other side and get back to business
Putting the Uk in a marginally better position in the Brexshit negotiations and world trade as we can be manufacturing JCB's whilst rest of europe is still shellshocked
This is an off the wall and waaaay out there idea, but hell look at recent events then maybe not so crazy
The biggest outlier from the data is South Korea. They have nailed it.
Watch this space.
Still waiting to see a deviation for. The curve.
Give it another week, measures take two weeks to take effect.
Putting the Uk in a marginally better position in the Brexshit negotiations and world trade as we can be manufacturing JCB’s
Diggers for the mass graves?
FT had a good comparison by country. Although given the UK only tests severe cases in hospital, where as S Korea tests anyone with a cough, it's hardly apples vs apples...
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I do not trust BJ or JRM or Pretti Vacant at all. In fact I wouldnt out it past that lot to accept that roughly 250,000 OAP’s will meet a premature end over the next few months.
I thing Cummings is in charge, Bojo doesn't care what happens; he achieved all his ambitions when he shagged his GF in No. 10, after achieving that he hasn't got the faintest idea what to do.
Odd thing is, Cummings seems very keen on killing off all the Tory Voters asap; which does seem a bit short sighted. Maybe the Kremlin have given him a fixed time window to wreak havoc, so he doesn't care what happens....
Just heard (from the horse’s mouth) about someone at work who’s tested positive. Grand total of symptoms was a minor fever lasting 12 hours.
I slept badly on Friday night feeling slightly feverish but no other symptoms, which I put down to the hotel air conditioning. Second thoughts now.
Would sampling clusters help identify if there is an issue, just seems there are lots of yes, no, maybe out there.
One thing that puzzled me was my mild was a mild version of a 24hr hour thing a couple of months back. Felt like I'd been hit by a bus at the time. Which makes it feel more like it's not this time.
Supposed to have a mask fitting on Tuesday. I work in Theatre recovery as an RN and have trauma and ENT ICU experience so busy getting up to speed with my books and ventilators...
We've been told nothing from too many service delivery managers and general managers...(the whole place is bogged down with managers). It will be the Drs and Nurses who will get us through this.
If its half as bad as some have said then no amount of extra ventilators will help because we just haven't got the experienced staff to safely use them. I have seen some anaesthetic reports on timelines and it does make for some interesting reading. I could go on and on but I feel at the moment it feels like a roller coaster when we're on the first hill up.
Ok. So everyone seems pretty certain this will be a massive shitstorm.
Are you still sending your kids to school tomorrow, are you still trudging into the office you don’t need to be physical at?
Discussion with wife this evening, she thinks carry one, I think close the bunker
We having same discussion with same points of view dt78.
Wife’s argument is if going to get it, better to get it early, and even if you go get it what of it?
I’m on the more worried side of the fence.
Have decided on school tomorrow and then see.
I told my manager this evening that I'm not coming into the office for the foreseeable due to my asthma. They initially tried to convince me otherwise, then tried to make it difficult by stipulating a bunch of rules regarding regular check ins, progress updates and trying to get me to submit a proposal of what work I was going to do when they had no more work to give me. When I pointed out that I'm only helping them out as I actually work in a different dept and I could just go back to my normal job they backed down and said they would ring me tomorrow.
We're shut down at my work which is good because it stops me from just not going in tomorrow.
Not that I'm especially paranoid that I'd get it via work, more because we were just pissing about. New work had slowed to a crawl and we have no idea what things are going to look like in a month or two so the ongoing work was becoming a farce. No reason to be there. Also, I'm not filled with employee loyalty these days but I'm not sure that's making any difference.
As I mentioned, I'm the primary carer for my mum who has heart failure and COPD. We lost my dad in December, so I'm pulling up the drawbridge. I'm diabetic myself but tbh I'm not too stressed about my own health, just about the knock-on.
Is it the right call? Don't know. Is it definitely the wrong call? Definitely not. Makes it a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned.
But molgrips , the absolute expert on everything ever has smugly spaketh
Well if you'd been reading properly you'd see a few pages ago where I said I'm not an expert but neither are you. I'm trying to unpick what is going on rather than just jumping on the shit government shouty bandwagon. I think there is more going on than is being let on because of the highly respected scientists who are heading up the response, and I'm curious to understand.
Footflaps I prefer deaths to cases because of differences in testing between countries. I did use a simple lag time model to predict deaths from past cases a week ago, which works very well indeed for projection, except the U.K. has changed testing. Then I looked at growth rate of any country compared to all others. Based on that, UK, France and Italy are all trending on the mean doubling time. South Korea and even the US are doing well for now. If we see 100 cases By Tuesday, I’m concerned we are off the curve.
It’s relatively rudimentary compared to my past efforts, but so much is not known (like incubation time, infectiousness even immunity.
Reducing contacts, will definitely reduce transmission though. Whether it reduces the overall numbers infected is still moot. But incidence will be lower.
Sounds the right call NW, all the best to you and your mum.
Whitty was mentioning the 1% and 80% infection on the news briefing, the 2 are mutually incompatible, it was at this point I realised he was either an idiot or a liar.
I'm hugely pessimistic, if I'm being honest, it will take a miracle, & I think they are lying to us because they daren't say how bad it will get.
but I've seen some of the prep being done in the NHS & the jr docs in my lab are being recalled from research & I know how absolutely dedicated they are.
My mum had a fit & pneumonia last year & my dad had a stroke , my FIL has just been diagnosed with multifocal cancer, including in lung.
We have 4 young kids, one of whom has a potentially serious medical condition that'll need monitoring for the rest of his life & the NHS is essential to that.
So I've gotta hope for the best !
BBC saying UK has 7 critical care beds per 100k, Italy 12 per 100k, Germany 29 per 100k.
Slow clap. Well done Tories.
I'm aware a neighbouring health authority has purchased three pop up mortuary's. I'm not sure if they come with fairy lights, bearded hipsters and ambient tunes.
Had a disagreement with the mrs tonight. She’s been pretty much carrying on as normal, I’ve barely left the house for the last week and definitely don’t want to from this point forward. Also her job is going to involve going into care homes and potentially hospitals which quite frankly scares the shit out of me. Suffice to say she’s much more stoic than I am, and she’s usually right so at least there’s that.
BBC saying UK has 7 critical care beds per 100k, Italy 12 per 100k, Germany 29 per 100k.
Slow clap. Well done Tories.
Let's not turn this into a political matter. Successive governments have consistently underinvested in the NHS for decades, promising the world but under delivering. If it wasn't such a great political hot potato they would have made an across part agreement to lock in spending for the NHS.
Not sure if this has been shared yet, probably the best conspiracy story I've read on it. Some real thought has gone into this one patching it all together with story links to actual events and timings etc
Any corroboration for this? Just so it can be ratified?
'I'm a senior Chinese intelligence officer'
On a website platform any halfwit could construct.
Ooookay then.
I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok...
Let’s not turn this into a political matter. Successive governments have consistently underinvested in the NHS for decades, promising the world but under delivering. If it wasn’t such a great political hot potato they would have made an across part agreement to lock in spending for the NHS.
It absolutely is a political matter.
That's a great website.
Schools, when will they shut ?
I give it 1-2 weeks. My plan is to keep my oldest out for the next two weeks, and either the teachers will be ill by then or the kids causing a shut down. First week it will be because she has a cough , and the second week because I have a cough. I'll be wfh but probably work in the evenings instead (mainly).
I have zero trust in the government's strategy. Zero.
BBC saying UK has 7 critical care beds per 100k, Italy 12 per 100k, Germany 29 per 100k.
BUT…
The NHS maintains critical care beds for patients who are seriously ill and require constant support. These are measured on a different basis to other beds described in this section.
1 Unlike most other categories of hospital bed, the total number of critical care beds has increased in recent years. In 2011/12 there were around 5,400 critical care beds, by 2016/17 this had risen to 5,912 – an increase of around 9.5 per cent (NHS England 2017b).
2 Of these, around 68 per cent are for use by adults and the remainder for children and infants.
Austria taking no chances:
Corona Virus in Austria
A brief guide to what you need to know about the virus in Austria, in English.
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By Chris CumminsThe Austrian government has extended the measures aimed at slowing the spread of the corona virus, Covid-19. So far, as of Sunday at 5 p.m., 860 people have tested positive for the virus, with one fatality and a second suspected fatality, both in Vienna. In all, 8,167 people have been tested for the disease.
Severe acute respiratory syndrome corona virus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is the virus strain that causes Covid-19.
If you have symptoms or are worried that you may have the virus, stay at home and call the phone number 1450 (available 24/7)
New Rules
In an extraordinary session of parliament today, Sunday 15th March, Chancellor Sebastian Kurz extended restrictions on freedom of movement. The measures were passed unanimously in record time.As of Monday the 16th March, you should only leave your house for three reasons, Kurz said:
1) for work engagements and activities that can’t be delayed or carried out from your own home,
2) to make urgent purchases of food,
3) to go to the aid of other people in urgent need.
What’s Open
Food shops, chemists, post offices, petrol stations, banks, tobacconists and animal feed stores all remain open.The authorities say there is no need to make large “hamster purchases” of provisions.
What You Can Do
You can go out; for a walk, for example, but only alone or with people with whom you share a household. Chancellor Kurz said these excursions should only be undertaken if absolutely necessary.
These restrictions already began on Sunday in the province of Tyrol.The Possible Penalties
The Austrian police has been tasked with controlling the new regulations and if you break the rules, fines of up to 2,180 Euro can be applied.No Bars, No Restaurants, No Sports
Kurz also announced further restrictions on everyday life in Austria.As of Tuesday, 17th March, restaurants and bars will be shut entirely. Before this new tightening of the rules, they had been told they could open until 3 p.m.
Sports grounds and facilities as well as playgrounds are also closed with immediate effect.
Border News
Flights from the UK, the Netherlands, Russia and Ukraine have been added to the list of those denied permission to land in Austria.Flight connections with France, Spain and Switzerland, Iran and South Korea and China had already been suspended to slow the spread of coronavirus. Both flights and train connections to Italy have been stopped.
Germany is closing its borders with Austria as of 8 a.m. on Monday, 16th, with exceptions being made for commuters and the transport of goods. Austria has introduced border checks with Switzerland and Liechtenstein.
Education
Secondary schools and institutes of higher education in Austria are shut. Primary schools and Kindergartens have switched to providing childcare because the government wants to avoid having young children being looked after by their grandparents, putting the most at-risk group in more danger of becoming infected.Call For Solidarity
Chancellor Kurz spoke of weeks ahead that will be “challenging, difficult and painful” but called on a sense of solidarity in society to fight the spread of the virus. He said everyone had a part to play in this common struggle.Young men who did alternative social service (Zivildienst) in the last five years will be called into service; the period of those currently serving will be prolonged.
A four billion euro aid fund has been created for businesses affected by the corona shutdown.
^ Seems sensible. Guess it’s where we’ll be in the next couple of weeks.
RM.