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[Closed] When did it become acceptable to litter on trains?

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When into town on the train the other day. Gent sat next to me puts his empty coffee cup down. I really dislike littering. But train's a bit crowded so I think "it's ok. he'll put it in the litter when he gets to his stop". Train pulls in at the terminal and he makes to walk off. I tell him he's left his coffee cup on the floor. His response is that he's left his cup there because people leave their newspapers on the train. I point out to him that

a) nobody in our vicinity read the newspaper. That's one thing you can thank smartphones for, and...
b) just because others did it, doesn't mean it's ok for him to do it.

He says "you're right" and walks off through the barriers. At this point I realise there's no point trying to reason with pricks.

Now this guy was fairly old and looked well off. Briefcase, corduroy trousers, maybe in his late 50s, early 60s. Shouldn't that age group know better, or am I misinformed?

Anyway, lesson learned. The best way to get angry is to expect something of someone who's not capable of it. 👿


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 1:02 pm
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Corduroy trousers?! the bounder. He probably couldn't hear you above the 'vfft vfft' as he walked.
There's a lot of angst on the forum this morning.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 1:09 pm
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Did he have laced-up boots as well? Even rebellious punks have to get old, you know.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 1:13 pm
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Train pulls in at the terminal and he makes to walk off. I tell him he's left his coffee cup on the floor.

When the train I use pulls into the terminal, a lady or gent comes down the train bagging up all the rubbish.

Do you want to put some poor EU migrant out of their minimum wage job?


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 1:19 pm
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I blame thatcher!*

2 reasons. In response to the IRA bin bombs most public bins were removed which got people out of the habit of using litter bins and the cult of individualism leads to a "sod everone else" attitude

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* this may not be entirely serious


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 1:30 pm
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blame thatcher!*

Or Starbucks, or indeed anyone who sells stuff in containers you dispose of.

But most of all blame the lazy *s who can't dispose of their waste sensibly. *s.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 1:38 pm
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There's a bin as you walk out ON THE TRAIN!!!1!1!

@martinhutch no, pumps. Brown ones. My dad told me to never trust a man in brown shoes, or a short sleeved shirt. He was right.

Is this what all boomers are like?


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 1:45 pm
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Not quite the same, but I asked a member of staff where the bin was in Picadilly Station in Manchester the other day. Apparently they took them out before Christmas due to increased terrorist threat.

She suggested I dispose of my chewing gum by lobbing it onto the tracks 😯


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 1:52 pm
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Maybe it was this bloke's wife.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 1:53 pm
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it’s always been acceptable, same as its always been ok to put your feet up on the seats and make phone calls in the quiet carriage.
no point in saying anything no matter how much it annoys.

FWIW i always take my rubbish with me or put it in the bin but i do leave papers(Metro and evening standard) folded on the seat/table and often pick left ones up to read.
i dont feel bad doing so as they have somebody go through the carriage at the end/beginning of the train journey and they get recycled and are not stinking the carriage out like fast food packaging or likely to get spilled.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 1:54 pm
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Honestly trains is one place I dont worry too much about leaving litter, as neatly as possible. Wasted too much time trying to find nonexistent bins after getting off, plus there's always someone regularly coming with a binliner to collect it.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 1:55 pm
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My dad told me to never trust a man in brown shoes, or a short sleeved shirt. He was right.

Shit, I'd better go home and change....


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 2:02 pm
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Funny, i did the same to a guy on a train on Friday, he took his half empty cup off the table, got his case off a luggage area and left his cup balanced there. I gave it to him saying "mate you forgot this". He looked totally confused.

Killer story content eh?


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 2:11 pm
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50-60's

Baby boomers for you eh, they stole our pensions, bought houses for £12,000 then destroyed the Housing market, stole our student grants, sent us to war, ruined the country shunted us out of Europe and now leaving litter on trains...s****horpes

*Shakey angry fists etc etc*

edit: The guy above has it right, I have done this on several occasions really winds people up


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 2:15 pm
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TBF given the tiny bins on trains, staff clearing litter is a necessity.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 2:17 pm
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A middle age woman and her fella was once got on opposite and across the aisle from me. She started tucking into some strawberries..... and then throwing the stems onto to the floor 😯

I very politely pointed out to her that the bin was literally 3 foot from her seat.

So giving me evils she collected them up put them in the bin and then sarcastically ask me if that was better ?

Brilliant how people try to turn it around as if you're the one in the wrong.... guess it's out of their embarrassment.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 2:45 pm
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I've tried several times (so far in vain) to convince the train managers on Virgin trains to include a tidy up request amongst the various other messages they broadcast.

It's a minor bugbear of mine, but it definitely comes from laziness and entitlement.

And there are definitely fewer minimum waged rubbish collectors on trains these days (at least on the West Coast mainline).

s****horpes

Indeed - someone put the T in litter....


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 2:52 pm
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I must live in a grubbier part of the land from the rest of you but I don't ever recall a time when trains were litter free.

Mind you, I'm only in my forties, maybe, as with all things, it was "better before the war"


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 3:53 pm
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I think on Commuter trains no rubbish is acceptable as they all have bins on them and on the platforms.

On Underground trains I can concede to leaving newspapers but everything else is yours to take away.

for the record I don't leave anything on the train I don't see why people who are either 3 seats away from a bin or will walk past one don't see it as their responsibility to dispose of the rubbish.

That said I do leave my tray in Mcdonalds so may be i'm a hypocrite ?


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 3:59 pm
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There's a lot of angst on the forum this morning.

It's all Corbyn's fault.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 4:54 pm
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Weren't there any anti-litter campaigns to go with the "clunk click" campaigns? Maybe there should be some killer litter on each carriage.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 4:55 pm
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Brilliant how people try to turn it around as if you're the one in the wrong.... guess it's out of their embarrassment.

#virtuesignalling


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 5:07 pm
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Did he have laced-up boots as well?

😀


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 5:09 pm
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That said I do leave my tray in Mcdonalds so may be i'm a hypocrite ?

No.....just lazy 😉


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 5:15 pm
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Maybe the guards on Southern Trains could clean the litter up, they sod all except strike these days.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 5:22 pm
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Maybe the guards on Southern Trains could clean the litter up

They would, but then the drivers will complain they're taking their jobs. Or something ...


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 5:56 pm
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I detest littering of any type or anywhere.

Bit upset that you think a person in their late 50's is fairly old.
In my head fairly old is 72.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 6:00 pm
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My dad told me to never trust a man in brown shoes

Brown shoes don't make it.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 10:46 pm
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So giving me evils she collected them up put them in the bin and then sarcastically ask me if that was better ?
so you put it to a vote around the entire carriage ?


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 10:52 pm
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The bit about laced up boots is over my head. Maybe someone older could explain please?


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 10:30 am
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Hersham Boys by Sham 69.


 
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