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I thought airlines, however reading this I'm not so sure.
$4.4bn loss,complete collapse of bookings and still a quarter of your staff stuck at sea.
https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/18/carnival-sell-cruise-ships-bookings-coronavirus-pandemic-holiday


 
Posted : 18/06/2020 11:22 pm
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Oil, literally couldn't give it away.

I actually work in design side of it which then get's hit exponentially, at least the refineries are still open and employing people, there is zeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeero work out there for those of us who design them.


 
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Pubs, Travel agencies, Office rentals, shop landlords, sit down restaurants, shops without online sales, hotels especially Travelodge type where they expect to be full with working people during the week. Loads more candidates too.


 
Posted : 18/06/2020 11:42 pm
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Posted : 18/06/2020 11:56 pm
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The arts, culture and heritage sector? Lots of workers are freelance and have fallen through the gaps, venues can’t open until social distancing is ended, unlike the airlines, and whilst they can draw down on the furlough scheme, they will be unlikely to open by August when it starts to decrease at which point venue after venue will go into administration.


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 12:10 am
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Southampton's Mayflower Theatre apparently announced they won't open until December! 😮


 
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My job - travel photographer.


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 12:20 am
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The arts, culture and heritage sector?

Yup,theatre,cinema ,concerts,museums ,exhibitions it’s a horrendous situation ,with no easy solution for their future .


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 12:22 am
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Event industry.

I've been doing Event and exhibiting work for the last many years

I'm fortunate that I'm a decent, motivated chippy, and I've got off my arse and have been busier with private jobs than I ever have been with event work.

However, for the light, sound and tech guys they are screwed. Can't really turn their hand to anything else. The equipment they use can't be put to use anywhere other than large events. No sign of anything on the horizon. Lots of them freelance.

I'm sure there are other individual cases, but as a group they are pretty hard hit.


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 12:37 am
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I work in restructuring and imo there is no one "worst" because so many aspects are interlinked. Airlines, property and hospitality look bad but there's all their supply chain and customers who get knock on effects. An airline (for example) going into insolvency would attract massive attention but like the Rover failure it would tear the heart out of much more than the headline grabber.

The roadmap for return to business as usual is missing pages 3-75 at the minute. We don't know what will happen with covid. At the minute you've caught the main areas with potentially the heaviest losses but the high street has resurrected itself before and at least there's a model for how to restructure their debt (although many have already used it) and as we've already seen some possible latent demand to kick-start it.

You could find an issue in just about every industry that's POTENTIALLY going to cause significant post covid disruption. The question is which ones will "bite" at the end of the day.

Best analogy I can think of is Google route planner in maps. Before you leave it'll take a best guess at the route and traffic but until you're actually driving it the state of the traffic and where the potholes are won't be certain and even then it only takes one minor mishap to block the whole road again.


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 12:48 am
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+1 for arts, culture and heritage.
As for the cruise sector - vampire tourism sums it up for me; in addition, what about the massive profits Carnival and others have made for years?
Here's their statement for Q4 and FY 2019; note the comment about '...robustness of business model'.
https://www.carnivalcorp.com/news-releases/news-release-details/carnival-corporation-plc-reports-fourth-quarter-and-full-year-6


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 12:50 am
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I'm going with arts and arts events. Not just because they're getting a kicking- though, of course they are- but also because it's an industry with countless small business and small groups and sole traders, it's not a particularly wealthy industry but it has pretty high costs, many of which are fixed, and it doesn't have the sort of corporate hitting power that other parts of the events industry has.

Also, it seems entirely to be expected that whatever industry support is offered, will be mostly to the honeypots and to the parts politicans like. Money for big theatres, national organisations and opera, not a penny for independent music venues.

(huh. After writing that, I'm now going to disagree with myself- the sex industry is probably worst of all. Even less chance of government support (well, except the usual direct funding...), the parts that are still funtioning are the riskiest, and so many of the people involved would be very financially stressed.)


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 2:07 am
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Another vote for the arts-based workers. Theatres won't open this year at all, festivals are a no-go and when they do open back up there will be a lag as shows are fighting for funding and the usual delay of rehearsals before the paying shows. My sister manages a theatre and they are having to rely heavily on emergency funding from a few sources to get them to 2021. The 'casual' staff they use for shows are in for a really tough time.


 
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Tour guide in Austria. I work mainly with Chinese, American, British and Australian guests.
It*s a bit quiet for work.


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 7:44 am
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Arts - all the folk I know who make their living from it have missed out on government support due to their work contract terms. Every single one of them.


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 8:05 am
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Events/Arts are in a bad place

Theres no current gov guidance for events & opening back up

With 2m SD in place the industry agrees that max capacity for seated stadium & venues is 30%,less for certain event types, whilst having to retain 100% of facilities open ie 100% costs. That's without any additional costs for PPE, screening kit/processes, longer opening hours to allow for the screening processes etc etc

Lots of freelancers whose sole income is either live events or arts based venues ie theatre.

With no way to put on financially sustainable shows/events then venues, theatre companies, events companies, freelancers, suppliers etc are going to find it v v tough without Gov bails outs & support.


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 8:36 am
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The real change is about a month away from becoming apparent. That is when the huge wave of redundancies will happen. It will affect every sector of the workforce.


 
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I’ll agree with everything above. From a personal perspective, I had a full seasons work booked in working on festivals and events so have lost my entire years income, I know lots of good friends in the industry who are in the same position. I expect a lot of festivals won’t be on next year.

It’s a double blow for the events industry. Brexit is going to hit it hard, most people don’t realise just how big an industry it is in the UK, and how much of the work is across Europe for which we rely on frictionless movement

On the bright side, we are really good at it, and people will want to get back out and have a good time, so hopefully things will get back to some sort of normality


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 8:47 am
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I know two live events engineers - one lighting and stage/monitor sound, and the other front of house sound.

Both have had to move back in with parents as they can't afford to live or pay rent. Both in their 40s.

I expect a lot of festivals won’t be on next year

I know that some (Shambala?) are asking people for donations so that they can keep on staff and be able to run next year.


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 9:04 am
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Cinema Industry must be in big trouble, huge overheads on the premises and staff, they won't be opening for a long time. Several of the big players are already swamped with hugh £billion debts.

Cruz boat Industry - Who in their right mind would book a holiday on one right now.

Sports therapy - One on one contact will not be possible for a long time

Dental hygenist - very tricky to social distance...

Arts & Festivals


 
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However, for the light, sound and tech guys they are screwed. Can’t really turn their hand to anything else. The equipment they use can’t be put to use anywhere other than large events. No sign of anything on the horizon.

That's us, no idea when we'll be going back if ever. The irony of it is that 90% of our work is for clinical trials meetings which most people never even thought about until now. Our work is also nearly all outside of the UK which adds even more problems. We like much of the sector are just a small company who also employ a lot of freelancers. 55 this year so no idea what I might be able to find. Funnily enough though I only ended up doing this by accident as a stop gap after taking voluntary redundancy from the MOD. Who knows what might be round the corner but I'll just have to do anything that turns up.


 
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The arts for sure, which obviously includes guys in avdaves line of work too, loads of freelance folk and folks going job to job who've found themselves with little if any support.


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 9:15 am
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Another household here with most income from the events industry

Its a **** cluster*


 
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Based entirely on people I know, I wouldn’t want to be a stand up comedian at the moment.
And I wouldn’t want to be in hospitality recruitment either.
And I’m not sure the commercial property sector is going to be flying either.


 
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I just follow the markets as to where I think the economy is going, Cineworld, Nat express, carnival, any snippet of the virus return their shares take a further pounding, good news or no news they claw back the losses.

So that's the virus I can see the crash out brexit looming as the next challenge.

The tapering off of furlough will reveal the true extent of the economy.


 
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Student landlords might be up there, now the previous academic year's contracts are coming to an end anytime now. Shame.


 
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Sex workers...

I guess on-line side of things is doing ok.


 
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$4.4bn loss,complete collapse of bookings and still a quarter of your staff stuck at sea.

This landed in my inbox as the industry started to hit problems. Bit of a long read but very enlightening.

The Hustle - The Economics of Cruise Ships

I no longer feel sorry for them.


 
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I am always impressed by human natures ability to persevere in the face of overwhelming odds. In respect to the economy we have to sccept that (well for the medium term) that much of these industries are not viable unless a vaccine appears very quickly.

How we manage this, covid 2 and Brexit from a human perspective is beyond me? I think i am fairly savvy when it comes to business but all this isbeyond our control (with the exception of brexit)

I suppose we have to reshape our collective economies based on little travel business or pleasure, locally produced food, locally produced and consumed services- some of this is a brexity dream but the reality is an intetnal market we have too many people and too few resources- i think hhe whole situation is more dire than most folks think.


 
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There are some real grim situations out there...basically anything that relies on footfall is going to have been hammered and is looking like it will still be hammered for a while yet. Once this does blow over, there will then be delay as people will need to regain confidence with socialising before the footfall really picks up again.

Sounds really daft but when you go shopping at the supermarket - there seem to be 3 groups of people - those who appear to have no awareness of what is going on (so appear to completely ignore any one-way systems or distancing guidance - and until they brush past you, you don't really know who they are); those who are comfortable with what needs done now and move around the aisles appropriately; and those who are absolutely terrified of just being there - they are very cautious, very slow moving and keep checking over shoulders and moving away if anyone gets 'close' to them.

The first group will probably accept a return to 'normal' immediately but their numbers are low; the middle group will be cautious but will start adapting and the last group will be the last to adjust to things being back to 'normal'. I think the biggest group is now the middle one, but they will take time to return to places.

Tis has been bad for the world, but I think there is far more to come as we slowly climb out of this and things will be really bad for a lot of people (which really isn't a good thing). It has highlighted how fragile things are and how linked everything is...hopefully change will come to reduce the fragility (but really unsure how that can be done - maybe focus less on money/wealth/greed?).


 
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Corona beer sales


 
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I'm a musician. Girlfriend is wedding planner. Business is hardly booming 😳


 
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[Student landlords might be up there, now the previous academic year’s contracts are coming to an end anytime now. Shame.]

Dunno about elsewhere but my lad, and pretty much all his mates, had their houses sorted and tenancies signed for next year by February. He's got a twelve month rent commitment starting next month and currently no definitive info on whether there's any face to face teaching happening.


 
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It is interesting to see many of you identifying the arts as at risk.  Idon't know if it is 'worst' hit. It certainly feels like challenging times.

I work in the arts- run a medium scale outdoor participatory theatre company. All of our work is relient upon grants, and up until now all of it has been by it's very nature public facing.

We were waiting for two major grants decisions in March when this all kicked in for projects that would have taken place through the summer and into the autumn. Both applications were returned unread as both funders ceased distributing funds. These are applications that took around a month to write, not including research. All this is done speculatively, so we were already out of pocket- that is something you generally accept in this work, as of course not every bid will go through anyway. You balance that up with other freelance work. However, it is still a kick in the teeth to not have your applications read. Had these projects gone ahead they would have led to employment for 12 artists/performers, albeit on a contract basis, and full time employment for myself and one other until September.

Arts Council England replaced their Projects Grants with an Emergency Fund, which we applied for and received. (Another round of speculative bid writing) This is allowing us to do the work to become a charity, which should open up other streams of funding (before you ask, it is not possible to operate on ticket receipts alone, and to do so pushes prices above what many people can afford- making the work more 'exclusive' ) which will also be heavily oversubscribed. We have also had a small commission to create a piece of online work, which has been well recieved.

So in the short term, we are in a good position and  we have been lucky- we have little in the way of overheads, and are able to grow and shrink with little cost to the company itself.Personal cost is a another thing.

Long term, it is a different matter. At the moment there is no indication as to if/when audiences will be confident enough to come back, and when grants will open again. We will certainly be changing our model of working (though outdoor participatory work is being held up as a beacon of how things might work in the medium term) to be more community focused (a great little film about the work of a visionary company in this field Slung Low can be found HERE)- national touring will be out for a considerable time.  It is however, incredibly hard to plan at the moment as everything is still evolving.

On the other side, arts organisations with large overheads, bricks and mortar, are in a much more precarious position.

My partner is Front of House Manager for a local venue. She has been furloughed, and is spending her time at the sewing machine making masks, the profits of which are donated back into the venue. They have no idea when the venue will open again, and in what capacity, and if audiences will return. Then there is the question of content- how touring theatre companies and musicians will get back on their feet after all this, and if they can, how will they bring their material safely to venues? In the meantime they still have the building to maintain, and the costs associated with that burning a hole in their pockets.

Many artists/musicians/performers I know are producing work online. The ones I have spoken to all admit that they find it fairly souless, a saturated market (how do you compete with netflix?), and very hard to get people to pay for. It seems a short term fix- we are all sick of screen time.

In the long term I hope that the gueriila form of outdoor work I have long advocated will survive (The Guardian seem to think so ) and  reseach suggests that Joe public value arts outside of traditional 'arts' spaces more than content inside. Arts can be part of rebuilding community value and trust in what has been a battering few years- I just hope there are enough of us left  standing in 12 months time to help this happen.

Enough from me- next week I am a roofer again. Hey ho...


 
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Sports events isn't a great industry to be in at the moment. A lot of the organisers do it as a side gig so it's not the end of the world for them, however they're having to deal with demands for refunds, rescheduling, trying to guess when they'll be able to go ahead etc. But then there are those who do it full time who are taking an absolute battering currently. Seemed like a great idea for me going self employed providing timing and support services last year, had no work for the last 3 months, waiting to find out if any of the jobs I've got lined up for August can go ahead. Also can't really commit to doing anything else as I need to ensure I'm ready to go once we get the go ahead from the government/NGBs for the various sports.


 
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Zoos are struggling, haven't been able to furlough staff as they have to keep feeding animals etc, so no income and costs unchnaged. Plus a lot of small ones are charities and haven't been eligable for government funds....


 
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Event industry.

I’ve been doing Event and exhibiting work for the last many years

I’m fortunate that I’m a decent, motivated chippy, and I’ve got off my arse and have been busier with private jobs than I ever have been with event work.

However, for the light, sound and tech guys they are screwed. Can’t really turn their hand to anything else. The equipment they use can’t be put to use anywhere other than large events. No sign of anything on the horizon. Lots of them freelance.

I’m sure there are other individual cases, but as a group they are pretty hard hit.

A few friends of mine work(ed) in it. Tearing around the UK and Europe building the stands. My friends either left years ago because it's shit work or have just left now knowing the inevitable.

Trade shows have been in decline for years I'm told, I know another company through work that does 4 or 5 of them a year (as exhibitors) they've known for years it's a waste of time but the higher ups are slow to change so they go through the motions, but they won't be going back to it, it's just not worth it for them.

The Events Co. I know have quietly closed and moved out of their yard, most of their staff don't even know yet. They're not closing, but they've moved to a much smaller place, they won't be doing the shows that haven't been worth doing for years anymore, less staff, fewer shows and just the ones that are worth doing.


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 11:26 am
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Small charities having a nightmare. Many small charities fill the voids left by Austerity. Of all the govt schemes they should have helped the charity sector, but it’s not in their nature.


 
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Brexit is going to hit it hard, most people don’t realise just how big an industry it is in the UK, and how much of the work is across Europe for which we rely on frictionless movement

Yup! Germany and UK seem to be the biggest players in the event industry. Germany more exhibition stuff and UK firms more event based. On the bigger jobs there always seems to be one contingent from the UK. Brexit is going to kill it for them.

Trade shows have been in decline for years I’m told, I know another company through work that does 4 or 5 of them a year (as exhibitors) they’ve known for years it’s a waste of time but the higher ups are slow to change

Things are massively going to change after covid. As you say trade fairs aren't what they used to be. It used to be the case that all orders were made at the fair. Now it's more a case of being present because your competitors are there and you are more concerned with feeding your customers with alcohol and food.

There's a big job put on each year in Barcelona by a large tech Co. Think overall cost is about 8mil. People fly in from all over Europe, and that's just us guys doing the put-in and de-rig. Thousand more visitors come for the ten day event. We've been doing it for the past eight years. It's more or less a copy event of the one they put on in the States. It's not happening this year. In the States they're organising live stream events to show case their "products" and services. It's reportedly costing them less than 400k. If it works why the hell would they bother forking out 8mil again? That's a shitload of people who won't be getting paid for their services. I used to clear several thou a week in the run up to (preproduction) and during the event.


 
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Tis has been bad for the world, but I think there is far more to come as we slowly climb out of this and things will be really bad for a lot of people (which really isn’t a good thing). It has highlighted how fragile things are and how linked everything is…hopefully change will come to reduce the fragility (but really unsure how that can be done – maybe focus less on money/wealth/greed?).

This is the fundamental problem with a capitalist economy, it's based on being as efficient as possible. Efficiency always sounds good on paper, but it just means doing more with less and that means less labour, fewer jobs to create the same amount of product.

Throughout human history we've striven for more and more efficiency, so we can't focus on just the fundamentals of life like food, water, light, heat and shelter etc, we're too good at it, there isn't enough work for everyone just to keep us all fed and clothed so we need to invent all new ways to spend money all the time to keep the economy growing to keep pace with the efficiency.

Maybe one day 'work' will become obsolete for most, I really don't know how Humans will cope, but we need money / wealth / greed to create jobs for everyone.

To be honest, STW is really going down a rabbit hole with tales of economic disaster, change is inevitable at any time, we're not all suddenly going to become subsistence farmers and there has NEVER been the political will to re-balance or 'fix' any economy in times of crisis, it might seem the best time but in reality people will only want it in theory, when the practical stuff happens and people start "losing everything" they just want things back the way they were as quickly as possible and that's going to happen.

Within a month or so we will likely announce that we have a viable vaccine, it doesn't really fit with the STW narrative at the moment, but the UK has for once invested and we like likely be the first to develop one, we have around £1bn of orders for it already.

This, like every downturn before will come with changes, but they won't be as great as people think.


 
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Another one here in the events industry wondering how its going to work - lighting guy in the corporate world. I'm lucky enough to be employed fulltime, so getting furlough at the mo, but after that?

The biggest, most profitable gigs we've done in recent times have been big groups of American or Chinese flying in - either for conferences or incentive travel. Daytime organised activities, evening meals in famous locations and a lavish party at the end of the week. The run of the mill stuff is after hours receptions and dinners in museums and galleries - basically sticking a load of strangers in a room to shake hands and shout in each other's ears. Can't see either coming back quickly...

The two possible solutions for us - in the shorter term I see a lot of high net-worth individuals wanting to chuck a "post CV19" private party, which would be good to get a chunk of; then in a (god forbid) post no-deal Brexit World, once the arse has dropped out the pound - London will still be a party city, so it'll then be a CHEAP party city for the rest of the world to come to. But that kinda relies on Covid getting sorted and the travel industry thriving again.


 
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There’s a big job put on each year in Barcelona by a large tech Co.

That'll be Gartner


 
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a CHEAP party city for the rest of the world to come to

London is never going to be cheap for Europeans. An identity card will no longer do so we'll have to pay for a passport. Accomodation in London isn't going to get cheaper. I think junior has made the right choice, Berlin.


 
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P-Jay, interesting view above but I don't agree.
There is now a realisation that another coronavirus could come winging out of bat world at any time and be equally (or more) damaging.
Reliance on vaccine development is fundamentally wrong as there is no sign of successful development - yet; wishful thinking won't get us very far.
Unless and until we have a vaccine we will be reliant on behavioural changes.
You appear to not accept the prospect of economic disaster; all the indicators point towards exactly that result.
What gives you cause for economic optimism?


 
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Sex workers…

Not too bad if you're in Kyle Walker's neck of the woods.


 
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Sex workers…

I guess on-line side of things is doing ok.

Apparently not... Too many performers, not enough audience, so earnings have dropped and people are feeling more pushed into activities they'd not have done before.

But also, people have been pushed from the relatively "invisible" side, strip clubs etc, where there's relatively little chance of being recognised and of having pictures/videos spread, to the internet where everything is remembered and recorded.

It's a different sort of problem to people losing businesses and homes of course


 
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Apparently not… Too many performers, not enough audience

Apparently not… Too many performers, not enough audience, wife at home! 🙂


 
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Back on topic - I work in the print trade dealing with small businesses mainly and I can't recall speaking to one customer over the last few months who has any clue as to what the next 6 months/year hold. They are working on hope that the grants and furlough money they've received will tide them over but I know a lot will close as they can't make it pay under the 'new normal'.


 
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I hope @avdave is going to be OK. International scientific and and medical conferences have disappeared. I just attended a summary of a virtual ASCO (Oncology). We are considering options for later this year but have been told not to book (for October - was my planned annual holiday too) and planning one for next year, but even that may be virtual.

Aviation is a terrible place at the moment. Son2 has just secured a training place to start commercial pilot training, but who knows what the market will be in two years? Son1 will spend next year as a graduate teaching assistant.


 
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Efficiency always sounds good on paper, but it just means doing more with less and that means less labour, fewer jobs to create the same amount of product.

Yes but then those people find work doing something else. We could ban tractors, and pay thousands of people to drag ploughs through fields but that wouldn't be good. If we're inefficient we tie up more people doing fewer things, which means we progress less. And before you complain about progress, that'll be fewer people doing stuff like building wind turbines, solar panels and medical machines as well as the inconsequential stuff.

Anyway, further to what Alpin said about events - I wonder if demand in the events/arts sector will end up being permanently suppressed. I mean if no-one does events, no-one will get a competitive advantage by doing them, so they'll just stop.


 
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Local newspaper publisher.
It is not fun but we have been told we are un-needed and 'dead tree press' for so long you begin to ignore the noise as business keeps ticking along. Our problem is when the advertisers who pay the bills start to be unable to afford to advertise. And we cant drop prices as Mr Printer has his bills to pay.
We haven't seen any big boost in local businesses. Many are talking things up in terms of ads but we shall see how that works out.
Hopefully the boost in cycling will help STW. Or else that has been the entire years sales done in 3 months.
I'm closing two side businesses of mine that were just starting to show signs of taking off.
Anyone want to buy some decent camera gear? 🙁


 
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If you work in any of the creative industries in this country then you’re ****ed, basically.

I’m a freelance designer, and us freelancers, which is the main form of employment in most creative industries, have had no access to any of the government schemes. We’re on our own.

There are 3 million of us who’ve had no income since March, and no sign of any work any time soon.

Good article in today’s Guardian on the magnitude of the problem and highlighting the impact on the mental health of freelancers.

Forgotten UK Arts workers fall through the support cracks

Like most freelancers, I pay my tax PAYE the same as a full-time employee, yet I’ve not received a penny from the government. Neither has anybody else. Last year the creative industries contributed £112 billion to the UK economy, but we’ve just been cut adrift and left to fend for ourselves

I’m really lucky in that I’ve got my illustration work, which has been really busy (thank you again to everyone here who’s commissioned prints off me), so I’m not completely dependent on a day job that is now history, like so many are. Loads of people I know are really struggling after 3 months with no income. There’s not the slightest sniff of any potential work out there at the moment for anybody, and I don’t know anyone who thinks that’s about to change.

God only knows what kind of creative industries will be left after all this. Not much, I’d imagine. The whole sector is going to be absolutely decimated. I know a lot of the design agencies I usually work for won’t be opening up again. I’ve been in this industry long enough to know well the people who run these businesses, and they’ve told me as much.

The future looks pretty grim, that’s for sure


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 8:18 pm
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There’s a big job put on each year in Barcelona by a large tech Co.

That’ll be Gartner

Palo Alto Ignite I’d have thought


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 8:29 pm
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German sausage and cheese maker has to be the wurst käse scenario.


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 9:12 pm
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I'm far from the worst but pretty rubbish here, Entire summer of wedding/event photography cancelled which is normally when I earn 80-90% of my annual income. I get the self-employment support but it's based on an average month not a 'wedding every weekend plus assorted events and other jobs' month which I normally scrape through winter to get to. Back living with my parents for the time being :-/


 
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Personally I'm more worried about the compounding impact of Brexit on a fragile economy starting to recover. I think people will have an appetite for a return to normal, cruises, eating out, festivals etc. Not so sure the grant based arts industries and charities will come out of this, the more commercial arts, West end, festivals will bounce back (or would have done if we didn't have an absolute **** in charge hell bent on Brexit suicide and jingoistic paint jobs).

I'm in a bit of a weird position personally, 9 months out of work after being bullied out of two jobs in 6 months, bugger all help from anyone, bit of universal credit which was a nightmare to claim (opened my eyes to the issues people who rely on it suffer, how such a good, simple idea could be so screwed up in implementation is beyond me), and then a very well paid job starting the day before lock down for a company people hate (which has a culture totally at odds with public perception) which is likely to come out of this ok.

All feels a bit surreal at the moment and upbeat for me but having come from a fairly bad place I feel for people who feel like they are staring into the abyss. If i hadn't been offered the job just before lock down I'd be in a very bad place now, the other role I had a second interview for and was quite confident I'd get was cancelled the week before lock down and put on indefinite hold. At least I had hope of another job to hang onto, God knows what its like for people now.

Thank God I got out of manufacturing, Covid 19, economic collapse and the removal of our main market through Brexit is going to hit that sector hard, Rolls Royce is the tip of the ice berg. The ending of furlough will be the death knell of many SMEs if cash flow doesn't get them first.


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 10:05 pm
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Agree re Universal Credit, it's an absolute shitshow. It confuses the hell out of me and I have two degrees, ha - god knows how so many people ever manage to successfully get what they're due, but then I guess that's the point isn't it.


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 10:08 pm
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Mobile World is a pretty big show held in Barcelona every year. As a city Barcelona is the place we go to most for meetings and the city must be seriously worried about what's going to happen. It has 3 exhibition centers and thousands of hotel rooms and conference spaces which look like getting no use for a while.


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 10:10 pm
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I started my redundancy notice this week so I can say the motorsport sector isn't fairing too well.

11 weeks to find work...


 
Posted : 19/06/2020 10:38 pm