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I get time away from the site.
Advertisers lose revenue as I have to do my shopping by other means.
My point of view hasn't changed.
I have even less respect for some than I did before.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 1:47 pm
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Perhaps the point is to learn some manners

seems to have failed though


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 1:49 pm
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At least it makes the banners happy.

A happy banner:

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Posted : 09/02/2012 1:52 pm
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Well, no, because you're not banned from the site, just from the forum.

I know someone serving a ban and whilst he considers what he said to be pretty minor and obviously tongue in cheek, he realises that it's their forum and they can take their ball home whenever they want.

And it's just the internet...


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 1:53 pm
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Perhaps the point is to learn some manners

seems to have failed though


That's the respect point, if those doing the banning don't have any manners, how is it possible to respect them. One might say that deliberately aggressive posts equally lack manners.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 1:53 pm
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I think you're making the fundamental schoolboy error of thinking [i]you[/i] were meant to benefit

Perhaps the powers that be should consider corporal punishment in future. Do you think you'd get anything out of that?


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 1:54 pm
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I get time away from the site.

sounds like when you're not banned you [u]have[/u] to be on here 😛

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Posted : 09/02/2012 1:54 pm
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Its their house, they can do what they want.


 
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Perhaps the powers that be should consider corporal punishment in future. [u]Do you think you'd get anything out of that?[/u]

Definitely, but probably not what I should.
Its their house, they can do what they want.

surely it's the advertisers' site?


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 1:56 pm
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Could we have a ban confession thread where anyone fresh back from a ban has to link to the post which earnt them the ban and state what they have learnt from being banned. Could be therapeutic (and entertaining).
It could be a sticky.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 1:56 pm
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Bannings pander to the self righteous moaners who can't take a joke or a differing opinion, whilst others get away with what they like.

Not always, but usually.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 1:58 pm
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*reports peterpoddy for having a better garage than me*


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 1:59 pm
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Perhpas it is your continual and flagrant breaches of the rules?


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:01 pm
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*reports Philly for having more attentive stalkers than me*


 
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[i]Could we have a ban confession thread where anyone fresh back from a ban has to link to the post which earnt them the ban and state what they have learnt from being banned. [/i]

But the offending posts are often removed.

My friend learnt that a previously well-used forum euphemism involving breaking through a rear entrance by striking it hard with one's foot, even when said in, what he thought was obvious, jest, is no longer acceptable.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:01 pm
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*Hugs phily*
@wrecker, I was banned for calling someone an idiot and avoiding the swear filter. Three days off and unless they have changed, for which I see no evidence to the contrary, I guess they're still an idiot and a self righteous one at that. 😀


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:02 pm
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*reports binners because it's all his fault*

*reports TJ for having a go at dondon*

*reports camo for referring to 2 banners as a single banner*


 
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@wrecker, I was banned for calling someone an idiot and avoiding the swear filter. Three days off and unless they have changed I guess they're still an idiot.

Good work. I've found a well placed smiley can hide a multitude of sins 😀


 
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I was banned for calling someone an idiot and avoiding the swear filter.

Me too. Soz.

It could be[s] a [/s]sticky.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:06 pm
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A ban lets the normal users of the forum have a nice, quiet time without the banned person doing whatever it was that got them banned in the first place. If they feel sad because of a ban, then that's a bonus.

Most people get a warning first. Don Simon, for example has had 13 separate warnings against him in the last 12 months, so it's not like a ban is a surprise if it does follow.

Most people who are banned are done so as a result of complaints from other forum users. Any offensive posts that are seen as being left up because we approve or whatever, simply haven't been reported to the mods.

Hope that helps.


 
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My friend learnt that a previously well-used forum euphemism involving breaking through a rear entrance by striking it hard with one's foot, even when said in, what he thought was obvious, jest, is no longer acceptable.

Who are you then? Hora?

To the OP - What's the point of cats? What's the point of white chocolate? What's the point of spending all your time on a MTB forum? It's a mistake to think in teleological terms about it all, IMO.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:06 pm
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surely it's the advertisers' site?

of course it is, what was I thinking, its completely the advertisers' site


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:07 pm
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Here, Phil, before I report you for reporting me, does your lovely Missus still need some wheels? I'll have a spare pair in a week or two. They're decent.

Email in profile if interested.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:08 pm
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What's the point in prison?

We just let folk out eventually and most of them return to crime so they've learnt nothing....


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:10 pm
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[i]teleological[/i]

That is a niiiice word
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Advertisers lose revenue as I have to do my shopping by other means.
Have I trodden in something?

*checks*

No. Well, I'm getting the unmistakable smell of bullsh1t from somewhere!


 
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WHATS THE POINT OF A CAT?!?!?

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Posted : 09/02/2012 2:11 pm
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Don Simon, for example has had 13 separate warnings against him in the last 12 months,

Any advances on 13 in 12 months? Anyone reckon they can beat it?


 
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*reports camo for referring to 2 banners as a single banner*

* reports Phil for noticing the 2 banners/single banner discrepancy *

* reports Phil again for gratuitous usage of cat pictures to underline his point *

* Feels dirty *


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:12 pm
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*reports self for laughing*

*Starts book on how long afore don is banned again*


 
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Don Simon, for example has had 13 separate warnings against him in the last 12 months

lol!


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:17 pm
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Any advances on 13 in 12 months? Anyone reckon they can beat it?

That figure I simply don't believe as I have only received in my inbox something like 4 warnings. More telling would be to see who has done this complaining to get the warnings sent.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:17 pm
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teleological

That is a niiiice word

Been listening to Radio 4 again? I was most impressed this morning when someone used the phrase [i]"Aristotelian syllogisms"[/i] in a sentence.

You don't get that banter from Chris Moyles!


 
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given that the for sale/wanted forums are a big part of this forum, and i expect there are a large number of "lurking" visitors who have not joined, Singletrack have to (IMO) consider all users, not just the forum regulars (or big hitters if you like). Further more, like it or not, the people at singletrack have bills to pay and mouths to feed, and I expect advertising goes some way towards paying them.

Now if I had a product or a shop, lets say specialising in Ti singlespeed 29ers with Alfine hubs and suspension adjustable from 100 to 200 mm at a knock down price, I would think advertising here would be a good thing, however, if singletrack was known as a place full of cross IT workers and underemployed engineers, i might not want my product associated with that.

Likewise, if I were considering a premium membership on the grounds that this place is a resourse of immense wisdom (and opinion) on all topics bike related and less so, then this would also bring money to Todmorden for Chipps & co, I might be put off by some of the recent "un-pleasentness" and take my money elsewhere. Those "other" sites may not feature the same adverts as this site does, and those companies may feel the effect, and take their business else where...

I like the forum, I like the sarcasm, gentle abuse and mixed opinions. But it is a mountain bike forum, run by a mountain bike magazine, which is run for profit (and love I expect). I don't like bannings, bit this isn't a democracy, you don't have the right to free speech here and the mods can (and will) do whatever they like.

As I say, I like the forum as it is, and would prefer it to stay the way it is, and if that means banning people who upset the status quo (who'd mess with Rossi?) then so be it.


 
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*sends email to PP*

13 warnings is impressive, its probably bad to admit such a thing but i have the same frustrating-to-admit respect for dondon right now as i did the naughty kid in school who always got sent out the classroom for telling the teachers he couldn't be bothered with homework instead of making bad excuses like the rest of us.


 
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That figure I simply don't believe as I have only received in my inbox something like 4 warnings. More telling would be to see who has done this complaining to get the warnings sent.

Maybe some warnings are so severe that the count as multiple warnings?
It'd be good to see sweary, comically disproportionate abusive warnings from the mods. Just to antagonize like.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:20 pm
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It'd be good to see sweary, comically disproportionate abusive warnings from the mods. Just to antagonize like.

That's been done. 🙁


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:21 pm
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We need to see that. Now.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:22 pm
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*is impressed by dondons banning*

Cool 8

Looks at Hisdog through narrowed eyes "that" phrase isn't nice


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:25 pm
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Are we getting to one of those situations where teacher says

"Okay young man, you've got a detention"

"Don't care!"

"2 detentions"

"not bovvered!"

"3 detentions"

"*!, You're a *ing *ing * anyway"

"right... you're off to join Fred....."


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:28 pm
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careful now, you never know when he might turn and rip off a kids face.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:30 pm
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... and don is still here despite using the forum to complain about being banned.

Mods are getting soft. Didn't happen in my day... 😉


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:31 pm
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*winks at emsz and flexes biceps*


 
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[i]Who are you then? Hora?[/i]

How very dare you. I certainly am not, and neither is my friend.

[i]Looks at Hisdog through narrowed eyes "that" phrase isn't nice[/i]

He knows that now, in fact he knew it at the time, but he thought that the context in which he used it had a certain comic quality.

He would of course never advocate actually doing what he suggested (well, he would the bit that led up to the phrase, that was quite gentlemanly), and he thought that was obvious but obviously not. He now knows better, and that's surely the point of the banning.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:32 pm
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*reports mrwhippywhoppit for personally attacking the mods*

*squeezes pecks together in an attempt to imitate boobs for emsz*


 
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... and don is still here despite using the forum to complain about being banned.

Asking a question, not complaining. I'm here because in spite of there being one or two sad sacks, there are a lot of good people who are out for a bit of a laugh and have some fun.


 
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😆


 
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My original persona got a lifetime ban for suggesting the STW UI was a bit poor on another forum - yep not even a post on this one. I even got hate mail from die hard STWers who were so upset by my comments (which were very very mild). I then got a long letter from the original forum coder, who was so upset that someone had suggested his creation was less than perfect.

The whole thing was just insane - some people take life and the internet especially way too seriously!

So as far as I can work out, bannings are much more about bruised egos than anyone doing anything offensive....


 
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Bad pun!


 
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Bad pun!
Posted 7 minutes ago # Report-Post


I wasn't offended, anyone else? 😀


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:55 pm
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How very dare it.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:59 pm
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can we not just get a list of the serially outraged compulsive post reporting types and put those people in stocks for public humiliation..

maybe something involving wasps..


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 3:06 pm
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im outraged by your post yunki


 
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I had a post removed and an email from the Mods because someone reported something as racism which very clearly was not.

It's ironic because I was pointing out the hypocricy of patronising people of colour.

Doubly ironic because it was TJ I was having a pop at.

Triply ironic because TJ had a warning/banning for doing exactly the same thing and then moaning about that.

And I'm pretty sure it was TJ that did the complaining, wasnt it chummy?


 
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Any advances on 13 in 12 months? Anyone reckon they can beat it?

I've had a few in a week after a mod clamp-down, 3 bans in recent months too?

Much of what I did is also done by others with no post-removal or bannings.


 
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McBoo - I was not banned. I was warned off using a certain phrase that I had used ironically and is infact the name of one of the posters on here.

If you were banned then in the eyes of the mods you deserved it and you do not get banned for a first offence usually. I do not complain or moan if I get warned or banned.

so it was you who reported me was it 🙂


 
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i got a warning for using a joke that 'is old and tired'

dezb is old and tired but he's not banned

👿

(i luvs ya really debz, you grey sideburned sexy beast)


 
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i got a warning for using a joke that 'is old and tired'

That's a good use of warnings. No problem with that. I'd have banhammered you.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 3:32 pm
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Ban is for breaking the rules just like Contador.


 
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lol i kinda agreed with the warning, i didnt even find it funny as i posted it!

i remember being banned for my friends pole dancing video, which wasnt remotely sexual, but spurfmatthew made a comment about her lack of boobs and i'm the one who got banned! ever since i've hated surfers and their mysogymathingy ways.


 
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It's been a bit quiet I thought after the mass bannings after the bike show and did wonder if they were having a bit of a clean up splurge, I've come to accept the bans here, didn't like it at first since none of the other forums I visit save one are moderated and none as harshly as this one.

It certainly has the air of the classroom about it which is hardly surprising if you consider the provenance.

I've never been warned before a ban, it just happens and often when I least expect it, kind of just when I thought I'd settled in and had found the 'flow' of the place.

I think I've had about five bans in the four months or so I've been here so I'm on par for that 13 in 12 record if it is a target. I can't remember exactly what they're for, the last was swear filter avoidance which is a tad childish imv

Then again as I said else where, there are lots of children here. ( Children = anyone under 39).

The worse thing for me however was being told I'd caused someone to be banned, that really upset me so the next ban I accepted as Karma.

It does however artificially alter the demographic a tad, making it a cosy warm feely place for lefty kids who can't ride good, rather than the traditional rufty tufty sweary laddish culture that used to be the norm for off road biker types, so it is unique from that perspective.

What should happen, is a place for us to go when we are banned, where we can commiserate with one another and tell tales about teacher without him caning us or putting us in detention.

It's just finding a similar style of forum I guess, there's a newish one not populated on that imbike mag, probably have the effect of winding them up more though, then we'd end up having our user name totally destroyed and all trace of our existence exterminated.. 😯


 
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Some of this thread is so vomit inducing that I'm seriously considering becoming a premier member just so I can leave offensive tags on the subject.


 
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What should happen, is a place for us to go when we are banned, where we can commiserate with one another and tell tales about teacher without him caning us or putting us in detention.

twitter?


 
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so it was you who reported me was it

Not me. I'm an adult.

Thanks for confirming it was you that ran to teacher. Roughly how many complaints have you made about your fellow STW members since say Jan 1? Just an estimate....


 
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What did Ulrich say; two year ban, must be a good un?


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 3:42 pm
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[i]dezb is old and tired but he's not banned[/i]

Right on all three counts ya bastard.

I seem to have been pissing people off today. That bloke what called me a knob - should I get him banned?


 
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rather than the traditional rufty tufty sweary laddish culture that used to be the norm for off road biker types,

Thats a tradition I can live without thanks, it's nice here.


 
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dezb is old and tired buy he's not banned

LOLZ!!!


 
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Thanks for confirming it was you that ran to teacher.

really? when did I confirm that? I seriously do not remember the incident. You do seem to imagine and awful lot of stuff about me. You are also often pretty personaly offensive

I never used to report people much at all. Only for blatant "isms" occasionally. However on discovering that the mods seem to at least in part base banning on the number of reports I have reported a lot more when they are being personally offensive as its the right wing ranters that didn't get the bans as us lefties didn't report.


 
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Dezzy, just cos i cant come to your birthday ride because of this bloody wedding 🙁 mrsconsequence better provide me with ample wedding/hotel sex to make up for missing out!

you are correct, i am technically a bastard though.


 
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What should happen, is a place for us to go when we are banned, where we can commiserate with one another and tell tales about teacher without him caning us or putting us in detention.

twitter?

mleh, I'm sure such a place exists somewhere......


 
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I never used to report people much at all. Only for blatant "isms" occasionally. However on discovering that the mods seem to at least in part base banning on the number of reports I have reported a lot more when they are being personally offensive as its the right wing ranters that didn't get the bans as us lefties didn't report.

Sure, thanks for all that. Just give us an idea of how many so far this year.


 
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mleh, I'm sure such a place exists somewhere......

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No idea. I don't count and I don't really care.

BTW - at hit the north I met someone who said you were a decent bloke in real life - how about easing off on the personal stuff? I really don't do half of what you accuse me of.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 3:51 pm
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Am I the odd one out then, I've never been banned or even had a warning? Maybe it's cos I try to consider what I'm saying in the light of "real life" and how other people might interpret my words? I don't always get it right, to be fair, but I try...


 
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Genuine LOL at pelican pic.

Pelicans > cats Phil.


 
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Hah I've just remembered the last ban which was hilarious, I'd posted a pick of a fat lad laying on the beach, can't remember why, but anyway if you looked to close you could just see the lads left b*ll*ck up his shorts, they banned me for sexual content.. 😆


 
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BTW - at hit the north I met someone who said you were a decent bloke in real life

Its true. I'm a Prince.


 
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