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It's a funny old world...would never occur to me to block someone's drive even if I was struggling to find a space, or mind if someone parked in front of my house if not blocking my drive.
It's illegal. Regardless of whether or not your Gran wants / needs to park on her own drive.
When you think about it blocking access to her drive is not much different to parking directly on her drive.
reminds me of this...
Curious mindset 'so and so's old and doesn't have a car so why not block her access etc'.
What next? Lets play loud music/have a late party as next door wont mind as shes retired anyway and doesn't need to get up early for work?
It's not really a curious mindset though is it. The thread is basically someone looking for something to moan about. What's to stop the woman walking to the car that's picking her up? She's clearly pretty mobile or she'd be in a wheelchair.
Charliemungus - how about you tell me what bit i'm missing.
PS My nan is 96 and when she get's picked for here day clubs etc. she needs access.
Don't feed the troll
Charliemungus - how about I now tell you the bit that you're missing.
She's 96yrs old. Think about it.
She doesnt NEED access, she WANTS access.
Sorry TJ didn't make myself perfectly clear, but because she's complained several times about cars across her drive which have subsequently been taken away, (one hitting a tree incidentally as he lifted it on) the local warden has taken it on himself to dish tickets out to the cars parked bellow her drive which is at the junction! Her neighbours must love her!!
She doesnt NEED access, she WANTS access.
Would you like to look out of the window and feel hemmed in? Imagine you had a pram and need access in and out. Similar to someone elderly who needs to get in and out without some selfish prick dumping his/her car somewhere.
If the drive is empty, there's not much you can do but if there's a car in it, they're causing an obstruction
what if you are out in your car? surely when you try to get back into your drive thats an obstruction.
I think it must be local authority dependant because round here You don't have to have a dropped kerb, and you don't have to be parked on your drive you have a right to access your own property. We have had a few ticketed in front of our drive and two tow-aways.
I call the Force enquiry number, and give them the car reg and description. They try and track down the owner and tell them they are obstructing and its an offence, if they cannot get a response or they refuse all the times I've had it they warden says I fancy towing this what do you want? If I don't need my drive badly I'll just let them have a ticket, the two tow-aways were once when my car was on the drive, and once when it was empty but I had a trailer due to take away loads of rubble. The traffic wardens love an excuse to to someone's car.
Let two tyres down. It wont happen again.
Excellent. So, you could end up getting nicked for Criminal Damage, or they might end up taking retributive action against your car.
Do you ever think these stupid ideas through, Hora? 🙄
If someone parks on your land, you do have the right to clamp them and charge them a release fee. You'd need a clear and prominent notice though.
I get around all these problems by simply not having a car! 😀
That's like a Viz Top Tip, that is.
She doesnt NEED access, she WANTS access.
Really?
CharlieMungus - MemberShe doesnt NEED access, she WANTS access.
Really?
It's irrelevant you have a right to access, I have been told by the cops anyone blocking your entranceway is obstructing and breaking the law.
Northanmpton council think tis illegal [url= http://www.northamptonshire.gov.uk/en/councilservices/Transport/roads/Pages/driveobstruct.aspx ]here[/url]
If someone parks on your land, you do have the right to clamp them and charge them a release fee. You'd need a clear and prominent notice though.
This has got me thinking.... so down many streets there are residential parking spaces on the road for permit holders, often there are properties with drives on the same street.
If you park in a permit holder space without a permit you risk getting ticketed. But if you park in someone's drive......?
No one has mentioned the potato up the exhaust yet? Or a banana if you're that way inclined.
Or one of these, for a laugh:
http://www.sillyjokes.co.uk/p-jokes/surprise/exhaust-whistle.html
You'll be able to hear when they park up and can thus wave your fist out of your window, disapprovingly.
She doesnt NEED access, she WANTS access.Really?
I'm just a bit surprised to read that you think that access to transport and social activities is a desire rather than a need for a 96 year old. And incognito, just because calling someone a troll is a bit easier than actually think about something doesn't mean that you need to keep on doing it. You've established that you are unable to engage with the issue, that's fine. No one is forcing you into an argument. There are others here who think that mobility for the elderly is quite important and others who think it is less so. That's why it leads to a discussion.
she WANTS access.
Yes she does and she is legally entitled to it so what is the problem?
OK I'll spell it out for you two yr olds. The car parking across her driveway is not preventing her from doing anything other than having a short walk to the car. It's not preventing her going to any clubs or whatever.
The car parking across her driveway is not preventing her from doing anything other than having a short walk to the car.
no, but perhaps being 96 is.
Why not ask the council to get it marked as a disabled parking space only?
Charliemungus - that's ageist. If her mobility was that bad she would be in a wheelchair.
TJ - that's assuming that she's disabled.
Surrounded By Zulus - MemberOK I'll spell it out for you two yr olds. The car parking across her driveway is not preventing her from doing anything other than having a short walk to the car. It's not preventing her going to any clubs or whatever.
I think we have already established that this is irrelevant, it's illegal. Full stop, motivation, needs or wants is not in there. It's your right to have access to and from your own property, anyone parking in front of your drive is causing an obstruction and breaking the law. I cannot see how passing comment on someone's 96 year old Gran is constructive or useful in any way.
OP, in future call the cops and ask them to get it moved.
I don't know, but they might refuse to do that on the grounds that it's not actually a parking space or some such irony.
Charliemungus - that's ageist
Don't be daft, it's statistics! Is it ageist to say that 9 month olds have problems walking?
No it's not ageist to say that 9 month old have problems walking, it's stupid. Thing is, 9 month olds haven't had the ability to walk so they cant lose it. 96 yr olds on the otherhand have had that ability - doesn't mean they've lost it.
Surrounded by Zulu - you can be mobility restricted without being in a wheelchair adn at 96 she almost certainly is mobility restricted enough to count as disabled
Ok, that dealt with the second part. Still, not entirely unreasonable to assume that a 96 year old might have mobility problems though is it? I mean, what with age-related infirmities and that. I'll grant that it is not true for [i]all [/i]96 year olds, but I'd wager that many have trouble getting about. So, not really ageist is it?
TJ - care to back up that statement with facts?
Charliemungus - got any statistics you can show me?
Charliemungus - those two papers show me that oldies rate their levels of mobility lower than they actually are and that an element of any disability they do have is as a result of inactivity. Does that not prove my point for me?
no, it proves my point for me. You asked for evidence that 96 year olds have trouble getting about. There it is.
No. It shows that some oldies would benefit from a walk to the end of the drive to get to a car.
What the **** is wrong with you. Don't you think she has a right to access? Maybe we should block your front door because you are mobile enough to climb out the window? Get a grip.
No. It shows that some oldies would benefit from a walk to the end of the drive to get to a car.
No it doesn't. You may be confusing correlation with causation
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9334293
What the **** is wrong with you. Don't you think she has a right to access? Maybe we should block your front door because you are mobile enough to climb out the window? Get a grip.
We may need to get incognito back in here to spot him for us
In a bid to keep the debate at it's current level - yes it does.
In a bid to keep the debate at it's current level,
show me
To be honest with you I cant be arsed.
dear god! whether the woman is fit enough to walk the distance or not is irrelevant. It’s common courtesy not to block access to someone’s drive whether they have a car or not. It’s not difficult is it?
To be honest with you I cant be arsed.
Now that's just not honest is it? You seemed arsed enough right up to the point where you had to provide evidence.
What planet do you live on incognito?
We have these ideas of common sense and common courtesy. Both of these terms refer to the most popular ideas around sense and courtesy. I guess that this means that common sense and common courtesy in modern life refer to being ignorant, unthinking and thick as ****.
what are you going on about?