EDIT: I wodering if you give off some kind of anti dog vibe
Classic bit of victim-blaming there.
I might give off an anti-dog vibe, having been fairly scared of them throughout childhood due to a few unpleasant incidents. But I suppose that's all my fault too.
but as a dog owner saying all dogs bite kids
Well that's not what I said, is it.
I implied that it's more likely to get a serious bite from a dog, and you're definitely more likely to be randomly assaulted by a dog when out minding your own business. That may be the result of poor dog ownership, but the fact is that it's a possibility and often a reality.
You seem like a dog anger bomb
Not so much these days, because as a kid I had no idea how to behave around dogs. Nowadays I just get grief if I am doing something ridiculously dangerous like, say, running.
Again I don't really want to get into a silly debate about cats v dogs but I do really think that the dog thing is an issue. There are a great many dogs who aren't sufficiently controlled by their owners, and unless you have dog experience you don't know the things you shouldn't be doing
If you are a cat owner and you die, the cat would eat you. They care that little for their "owners". A dog is so loyal it would guard your body against marauding hordes of cats, zombies or medical researches until it is so tired, starving and ill that it could not longer fight them off.
Conclusion: dogs are stupid.
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We have both.
Dog beats cat for numerous different reasons.
FIN
Maybe dogs are a good judge of character?
Crikey Molgrips, five or six bites??
That's shocking. I've spent my entire life around my own and other people's dogs. Both known dogs and unknown and never been bitten once. And that includes some decidedly mental dogs volunteering in animal sanctuaries.
What with your motoring issues as well I'm beginning to think your cursed.
You said "They bite kids" which made sound pretty standard behaviour, they dig holes, they like bones, they fetch sticks, they bite kids.
I've been assaulted by people more than I have by dogs.
grum: I never said it was his fault, most likely it is the fear/anxiety, maybe its something else, but molgrips does seem to have had a disproportionatly high number of negative dog encounters. I'm wondering if its a dog reaction to his mental state, or just sods law, I hate spiders, and I'm the only one in the house who routinely finds them in his bed, his pants draw, his towel, just on his leg etc...
If you are a cat owner and you die, the cat would eat you. They care that little for their "owners". A dog is so loyal it would guard your body against marauding hordes of cats, zombies or medical researches until it is so tired, starving and ill that it could not longer fight them off.
Ha ha, nice thought. But when poochy gets hungry enough, you'll be on the menu don't worry.
If our veg patch is anything to go by then a cat would struggle to resist that much freshly dug soil
Top work
I have been bitten/scratched by more cats than dogs - granted this happens in peoples homes rather than on the mean streets.
Dogs can generally do more harm so there is more to be concerned about.
Not sure either species is any more or less aggressive as a rule tbh
I favour neither one nor the other. They are different creatures suited best for different people.
I like both in equal measure.
On the cleaning up dog poo front. Yeh, that's so much better than changing the bed sheets at 3am as kittums have just barfed everywhere. Twice last week the wretched little ****
I'm sure it was the fear, and the running away. But it's not unreasonable to expect a 4 year old kid to try and run away from a snarling barking animal with sharp teeth, is it?
Because there are dogs everywhere, we need to learn how to deal with dogs or risk being bitten. If you don't have dogs yourself, then you don't learn how to deal with them and you end up feeling scared every time you see a dog nearby. It's a bit of a shame, isn't it?
. I've spent my entire life around my own and other people's dogs.
I think this may be part of it. I never spent time around dogs.
Not sure either species is any more or less aggressive as a rule tbh
I think it's fairly obvious that cats are far less aggressive overall than dogs. I've never seen a cat do anything other than run away unless it was cornered, except where other cats were concerned. Many dogs however will try and attack anything and everyone. Of course lots of owners will have them under control, but you are relying on the skill of the owner to stop the dog getting involved.
I've never had to say 'DOWN, KITTY, DOWN!' and haul on a cat's leash to stop it attacking someone....
Not all dogs, but the best of dogs are loyal beyond words. Moving story many will already know of, Ruswarp...
Ruswarp (pronounced “Russup”) was the name of a devoted Border Collie who stayed with his master’s body on a Welsh mountainside for 11 weeks over one winter.Ruswarp was the inseparable companion of Graham Nuttall who campaigned successfully against the proposed closure of the Settle to Carlisle railway line in the 1980s.
Ruswarp's paw print had the distinction of being the only canine signature of objection to the line's closure.
In January 1990, after seeing the line reprieved, Mr Nuttall and Ruswarp bought day return tickets from Burnley to go walking in the Welsh Mountains. But Graham never returned.
Neighbours raised the alarm. Searches by police and mountain rescue teams found nothing.
Then on April 7, another walker found Graham's body by a mountain stream. Nearby was Ruswarp, so weak that the 14 year old dog had to be carried off the mountain.
Ruswarp was cared for by a local vet with fees paid by the RSPCA, who quickly decided to award Ruswarp their Animal Medallion and collar for 'vigilance' and their Animal Plaque for 'intelligence and courage'.
Ruswarp lived just long enough to attend Graham's funeral. His devotion to his master reminded people of Edinburgh's Greyfriars Bobby - the Skye Terrier who remained at his master's graveside for 14 years until his own death in 1872.
Friends of the Settle to Carlisle Line commissioned a life-size bronze statue of Ruswarp from sculptress Joel Walker. It symbolises the successful campaign to save the line from closure, and the loyalty of man's best friend.
Ruswarp's eyes look towards the hills, and to a bench on the far platform, dedicated to Graham Nuttall. Garsdale was their favourite place.
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Easy Dogs of course...
Rescue Dogs,
Guard Dogs
Blind Dogs...
I could go on but am at work and in a rush but list 20 things a dog can do and try and do the same for cats apart from kill tweety birds
Every morning I get up to feed the cats and make tea, then we have a cup of tea in bed and the cats join is for a catch up and some synchronised farting:
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Dogs. Easy.
Show me a cat that'll go night riding with you and I might consider changing my vote
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Actually molgrips I don't think what you describe is at all uncommon, unfortunatley it sounds like you encountered loose dogs who were able to chase you, at a bad time. Sadly the chasing may not have helped, standing still and not reacting is better but indeed as you say to a 4 yrs I bet it doesn't sound it, instinct would take over, particularly if you've had a bad history. The dogs shouldn't have been loose and able to chase you.
That's a big shame. All I can say is they can be lovely and incredibly affectionate, and sometimes capable of quite a deep understanding.
If you are ever in Nidderdale there's a golden retriever who I'm sure would offer you a suck on his most favourite raggy toy.
As an adult I have known nice dogs, but they still smell a bit 😉
You will notice I have not disputed the smelly comment. Note to self - bath dog.
Yes, they all smell
And slobber to varying amounts
Ugh.. yes.. the slobber. Cats lick you clean and it feels lovely. Dogs slobber on you disgustingly. And in your face too!
I've never seen a cat do anything other than run away
I find that hard to believe tbh
I have never been attacked by my own dog but have been scratched by numerous cats I [ the household i sharred they were never mine] owned.
My aunties cats comes over for attention and once bored it bites you then scratches you then runs off - it dpes this to everyone.
You really never met an "aggressive" cat
Granted I doubt anyone has even been attacked by a cat in the street as they are tto busy killing things to attack something as large as us ....I think the point remains that neither species is more aggressive but a dog can do more damage to us than a cat can. FWIW a cat attacks other stuff and probably more often than dogs attack anything.
Angus snots in my face when the excitment gets too much, or when he wants me to get out of bed.
Friend of mine has an aggresive cat. Not kidding, its an asbsolutely ****, to everyone. It actually bits if you go pet it. ONly one like that I've ever encountered. Sits on me, stares in my face basically saying "You so much as touch me and I will shred the skin from your bones." - thing is its ginger and fat and I find it hilarious, convulse in laughter, which also gets me bitten...
JY you were in their house though.
I bet you've never been rushed at by a snarling cat trying to attack you. I bet you've never had to try and defuse a situation with a cat miaowing furiously at you with bared teeth...?
Footflaps - my morning routine is remarkably similar. Definitely the brews, feeding cats and farting bit, anyway.
Except that once our cats have been fed, they go absolutely mental, chasing each other, full tilt, around the house. Then recreating some kind of WWF Smack down in the bedroom, complete with hiding-in-the-washing-basket ambushes. Which all makes for great viewing as you have your first coffee of the day. 😀
Plus I've never been out on a run or ride and heard a cat owner say 'oh, tiddles has never done that before', or 'you shouldn't really be moving as it gets tiddles defensive'.
plus cat's don't litter trees with bags of poo, just other peoples veg plots.
How many times have you been riding past a farm and the farm cat comes tearing out of the farmyard with teeth bared trying to bite you?
The same number as dogs NIL.
I bet you've never been rushed at by a snarling cat trying to attack you. I bet you've never had to try and defuse a situation with a cat miaowing furiously at you with bared teeth...?
A point i have now made three times but the issue was which species was the most aggressive not whether there was a geographical difference in their attack patterns
I have never had to diffuse a cat as they simply attacked me without warning as they are devious and not to be trusted 😉
Both can be aggressive, dogs do more damage , cats do it in their own house, dogs do it everywhere but cats kill more things but not humans
My point is i dont think either is mor eor less aggressive but yes in public it will more likley be a cat than a dog by a magnitude of thousands or millions unless of course you are small enough for it to kill and eat you
My folk new dog "Cocker Spaniel" usually wets itself with excitement when she meets someone new who make a fuss of her.
A point i have now made three times but the issue was which species was the most aggressive
I've given loads of examples as to why I think dogs are much more aggressive. Those farms you ride past - there are cats in there too, almost certainly. They don't try and chase me off.
I see just as many cats out running as dogs. Most dogs are having to be restrained by their owners, most cats just glance at me as they walk by. No doubt on their way to be aggressive to some mice or something 🙂
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I could be wrong, but I don't think dogs do that either.
unklehomered - MemberNot all dogs, but the best of dogs are loyal beyond words. Moving story many will already know of, Ruswarp...
A touching story of a dog that was too dense to go and get help, preferring to sit and watch ..
plus cat's don't litter trees with bags of poo, just other peoples veg plots.
Well that's dog owners, not the dogs. Cat owners just litter the internet with incredibly annoying pictures of their substitute babies.
Let's not forget Crows are the real trouble makers.
I've never been bitten by a dog but I have been bitten by a few cats.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think dogs do that either.
No matter how much you train them.
I like dogs. I like cats, and ducks and bears and hedgehogs and geese and pigs and spiders and etc etc.
Well that's dog owners, not the dogs
I reckon it's the dogs. I've never met a dog owner who says they do it, but the evidence is there for all to see, so it's got to be the dogs. Or maybe the cats trying to frame them.
I could be wrong, but I don't think dogs do that either.
Quite right, they don't put it in trees, they leave it right in the middle of the trail instead. Much better.
Blerch.
For some reason cats mouths are so choc full of bad bacteria its a wonder there is room for teeth, bad news to get a bad bite off one.
I have met some realy agro cats but on the whole they are pretty mellow and will leg it they dont want to be bothered. Used to have a cat that followed us on walks, one day she didn't come home so I went to where we had seen her last, shouted "Sonic" and she came flying out of some bushes climbed up on my shoulder and got a lift home. She was a very special cat 😆
On my bike trip down the west coast a few years back I went past this house and the rotweiler that lived there went beserk, it was chained up but charging at me and reaching the end of its chain and somersaulting like in a cartoon, if that thing had got loose it could of killed you. The first thing the people I was travelling with said when we reached camp was "Did you see that dog"
Cats and dogs rock 😆
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Quite right, they don't put it in trees, they leave it right in the middle of the trail instead. Much better.
Do you think cats only pooh in litter trays? 😯
Cats poo in which ever bit of the garden you're currently planting things the evil little ****ers.
Cat owners should pay into a fund to provide the rest of us with those sonic noise things. I'm always disappointed the scale only goes up to "Strong". Thinking of modding one to add the settings, "Alarming", "Terror", "Occular Bleeding", "Palpatations", "Involuntary Cranial Eruption".
one of the cats i grew up with dribbled like a leaking tap the moment he started purring, which was 90% of the time cos he was a little slut who'd cuddle the table leg if you weren't 110% committed to devoting every little ounce of your being into cuddling him. the other cat noticed the dribbling and copied.
had 4 dogs so far in my life, none of them have drooled.
never been bitten by a dog, been scratched/bitten by several cats.
they're both cool animals and i think they're both winners for different reasons.
Do you think cats only pooh in litter trays?
Not once have I had to clean cat poo off my bike, my shoes, or myself.
Cat owners should pay into a fund to provide the rest of us with those sonic noise things.
Only if those lovely responsible dog owners pay money to have lots of wardens patrolling the trails prosecuting owners who leave their shit everywhere.
It's actually really bad where we live. I can't let my young kids run around on the playing fields, or examine the plants and trees etc, because of the amount of dogshit everywhere.
I've also never been kept awake at night by a cat in a nearby back garden, endlessly meowing at a ridiculous volume, and for absolutely no discernible reason whatsoever, [b]ALL ****ING NIGHT!!!!![/b] 👿
