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What fits in this hole, oven content❓

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So they (my lad, fiancée and kids) are all back from Turkey  and as I think I mentioned in that thread, pretty much straight away have to move into another rental.

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Ovens. Would this orifice ,ahem, take a gas oven or an electric oven or either? They will be buying a new/ secondhand oven. Some get used that much as they like their air fryer.

Are ovens more or less standardised for width/depth?

As always, thanks for the help and pee taking you 'orrible bunch.


 
Posted : 06/07/2024 4:24 pm
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Looks to me like you have both options, as that's a gas connector and you have an electrical isolator switch on the right hand side, which looks like it would be for a cooker (trace the wiring in the cupboard).


 
Posted : 06/07/2024 4:27 pm
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Aye, think z1ppy has it, isolator switch and gas connection there by the looks of it. When I was looking most electric ovens were 60cm but better to measure and check


 
Posted : 06/07/2024 4:40 pm
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Thanks guys, I'm relying on pics and chat with my son here, I'm not at the house.

The lead coming down from that red isolator switch goes down to floor then loops back up... to goodness knows where. I suspect it's just been cut and looped out of the way?? That's a guess though. So, I don't know if that switch is usable basically?


 
Posted : 06/07/2024 5:01 pm
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Ok cookers basically come in 60cm, 55, and 50cm width. Your hole will obviously dictate but I would recommend going for the widest you can as it makes cooking easier. 55 and 60 is most common, 60 by far. 50s in my experience are a bit pants


 
Posted : 06/07/2024 5:08 pm
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I'm sure I'm being naive, but shouldn't a cooker be the landlords responsibility?


 
Posted : 06/07/2024 5:10 pm
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Freestanding cookers (oven, hob and maybe grill) are usually 50, 55 or 60cm wide (50cm is a pain in the arse) but depth and height are pretty standard.  You'll have a choice of running everything from gas or electric or a gas hob and an electric oven.  Depends on what the electric isolator switch is for and rated to whether you can have all electric.  Electric ovens on their own with a gas hob often only need a 13A socket.  Bear in mind it would probably cost £100 to connect the gas (guesstimate based on it costing me £60 15 years ago.)

Am surprised the landlord is not supplying a cooker.


 
Posted : 06/07/2024 5:13 pm
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Oh just realized it's a rental. Why no cooker? Gas becomes an issue, you need gas safely certificate which is landlord requirement.

Electric would need pac tested if it's landlord supplied. If it's your own then not I think


 
Posted : 06/07/2024 5:15 pm
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Thanks guys, I am reading all replies. Gap width is 58cm, so a 55cm will fit.

Can confirm the rental property has no oven. I'm assuming the landlord doesn't have to have one fitted?

Edit: 55cm are very expensive/less availability (from nominal googling) so might have to go 50cm.


 
Posted : 06/07/2024 5:24 pm
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I have never come across a no oven rental. That is weird and would make me slightly concerned. Is it otherwise furnished?

Pretty sure a cooker is required by law

I can't imagine many tenants have their own cooker but every day is a school day


 
Posted : 06/07/2024 5:38 pm
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I have never come across a no oven rental. That is weird and would make me slightly concerned. Is it otherwise furnished?

I can’t imagine many tenants have their own cooker but every day is a school day

Unfurnished mate. It's a pain I agree, when they eventually move I bet the next place will have a cooker meaning they then have to sell the one they are going to need to buy for this place.


 
Posted : 06/07/2024 5:45 pm
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https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/70/section/10

Does suggest a landlord has to provide facilities, now whether that is a cooker or a microwave who knows


 
Posted : 07/07/2024 6:37 pm
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Big air fryer, microwave, single ring portable induction hob and a piece of plywood to fit across the gap.

Underneath can be used for extra storage.


 
Posted : 07/07/2024 6:43 pm
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At 55cm, I had one of these I picked up second hand for not a lot. Good oven and it has the same space inside as some 60cm ones

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/326190298777


 
Posted : 07/07/2024 7:05 pm
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A fully gas oven/hob will usually need a mains plug too, to power the internal light and the clicky/sparky thing (technical term), albiet, very low power requirement for the electric in that case.


 
Posted : 07/07/2024 8:21 pm
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I’m sure I’m being naive, but shouldn’t a cooker be the landlords responsibility?

I'd think so, maybe a microwave/combi oven (if provided) would technically cover that requirement.

Even when buying/selling houses the oven is pretty much a given as it's seldom worth the effort to remove them and ship them to a new property.


 
Posted : 07/07/2024 8:37 pm
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Thanks guys, I'm still keeping up with the thread and lad and I appreciate the help/info.


 
Posted : 07/07/2024 8:37 pm
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I don't know what the law is with rentals, but, semi furnished or not, to be 'habitable' I'd assume that would require a working oven of some description?

I might be totally wrong though.


 
Posted : 07/07/2024 8:53 pm
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I have been discussing this with madame who assures me that no cooker is legit and common in the rental market


 
Posted : 07/07/2024 8:56 pm
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One other thing...if you see the hook loop thing on the wall, just to the left of the gas tap?

That's to chain the oven to the wall, to prevent anyone accidentally pulling the oven out too far and so pulling out the gas pipe from the tap...like a reminder to shut the mains gas off before removal.


 
Posted : 07/07/2024 9:00 pm
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On a budget I'd consider a second hand [4 ring] induction hob over the top of the gap and put at least one shelf in the gap for a big air frier.

Those, combined with a microwave perhaps, would easily cover an average family needs.


 
Posted : 08/07/2024 11:03 am
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