molgrips - Member
I'm sceptical though that people could be that stupid even in olden times
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Rob Hilton - Member
Came across this earlier today; thought it was great:
I'd rank that about the same level as the stupid question often asked by Christian idiots: "If we're descended from monkeys how come there's still monkeys?"
One of the half-wits probably wrote the "Atheist" thing - reads like the work of an ignoramous trying to be funny.
Edit:
Rob Hilton - Member
or satirists
A - haaaa... Who is it being satirised?
Whole different level. 😉 😀
who was proberbly sat under a tree and thought, "i know im going to go and drink that white stuff which has come out of that cows udder"...isn't that weird.....but then again I suppose it goes for all food stuff, someone at some point must have said "let's try this
That's very much a Calvinistic point of view
Fish!
I've no idea who had the idea of eating them first but they must have been really, really hungry.
However, I can't explain why someone would want to eat a fish when there's other food around that doesn't taste like an unhygenic baboon's crack
Of course the other fish related one is why did so many Irish die in the famine, when they were an island, with lots of rivers and surrounded by fishy goodness?
One of the half-wits probably wrote the "Atheist" thing - reads like the work of an ignoramous trying to be funny.
yeah, what a moron. It's like he doesn't even know what caused the Big Bang or what existed before it, and for how long.
That's very much a Calvinistic point of view
Agreed, it sounds like the sort of thing that Hobbes would put him up to.
I've no idea who had the idea of eating them first
Humans didn't just appear from thin air you know.
We evolved from other creatures that ate stuff, and they from other creatures again that at other stuff, and so on.
Of course the other fish related one is why did so many Irish die in the famine, when they were an island, with lots of rivers and surrounded by fishy goodness?
The answer is in the question. There clearly was not enough fish or fishing capacity to feed everyone otherwise people would not have died. D'you think people sat around thinking 'oh look at all that fish, but I really want a potato so I'll just starve to death instead'?
Hoops' law of diminishing sanity:
The diameter of the ear ring hoop is inversely proportional to sanity.
The answer is in the question. There clearly was not enough fish or fishing capacity to feed everyone otherwise people would not have died. D'you think people sat around thinking 'oh look at all that fish, but I really want a potato so I'll just starve to death instead'
But there is nothing written about the overfishing of rivers and seas. It may be that the nasty Landowners didn't allow them to fish the rivers, but there was no migration to the coast either. To say the answer is in the question is just circular.
He's not that daft. He knows to get out of Preston.
This is very much outweighed by the fact he was walking to Middlesbrough.
That's very much a Calvinistic point of view...
Agreed, it sounds like the sort of thing that Hobbes would put him up to
Perhaps, but my reading of it is that it was very much his own thinking. It's not clear where the thought is rooted, but it certainly does not seem that Hobbes had any influence at all.
CharlieMungus - MemberOne of the half-wits probably wrote the "Atheist" thing - reads like the work of an ignoramous trying to be funny.
yeah, what a moron. It's like he doesn't even know what caused the Big Bang or what existed before it, and for how long.
Don't much see how that applies.
Are you seriously suggesting that anybody does?
Edit: *whisper* actually, that's not what Atheists maintain... (Hence "who is it being satirised")...
Don't much see how that applies.Are you seriously suggesting that anybody does
No, but I'm not the one suggesting that what was written reads like the work of an ignoramus
Edit: *whisper* actually, that's not what Atheists maintain.
you don't believe in the Big Bang?
it is amusing description but it is not a belief it is a theory based on empirically validated observations that may be replaced by other better explanation of observed data. A belief is the faith in a thing known but not proven - biblical defintion BTW -
So what word would you use for your 'belief' in the Big Bang Theory?
Or how would you rephrase the question?
Got nothing to back it up but my pet theory is that childhood obesity is at least partly caused by removal of food addatives. Hyper kids burn more calories.
Surprised no-one has picked up on the fact that the theories that the image lampoons, have nothing to do with Atheism.
Atheism is simply the opinion that there is no such thing as god, due to complete lack of evidence. It places the idea of a (any) god on about the same level as a belief in fairies, unicorns, or the idea that the earth is controlled by magic penguins on the moon using astrology.
The image should be headed "Science" (which, by the way, hypothesises that a "singularity", not "nothing" caused "something" to exist, so it's factually wrong from the get-go anyway.
Of course, it's possible that the thing could be a lampoon of the sort of statement that stupid religious people might come up with and think they've said/done something clever, as in "If we evolved from monkeys etc...."
Edit: Before anybody gets in a froth and starts accusing me of being a horrid, nasty evildoer, that's as in "religious people who happen to be stupid as well as religious" BTW.
my theory.. is that anything other than a sex, drugs and rock and roll lifestyle is an insult to the gift that we refer to as 'the life experience..'
It's all your brain and body need, apparently... 😀
Woppit why are you even bothering to argue against such a stupid poster?
I understand why Woppit does it, because some people are on an anti religion crusade, like my Dad, he doesn't have anything productive to do with his life. He's coming next weekend, I might have to start a thread on here, get him a username and him and Woppit can live happily ever after.
I understand why Woppit does it, because some people are on an anti religion crusade, like my Dad, he doesn't have anything productive to do with his life. He's coming next weekend, I might have to start a thread on here, get him a username and him and Woppit can live happily ever after.
Are you in a cult? Is he coming to rescue you?
I think it makes him feel clever and strong.
Perhaps if he had faith in God instead he'd be more secure and not need to belittle people so much... 🙂
hypothesises that a "singularity", not "nothing" caused "something" to exist, so it's factually wrong from the get-go anyway
Well that makes a whole load more sense now! How long was that 'singularity' there before it decided to go off on one?
Ah I see. If you can't understand it, it must be wrong?
No wonder "a magic man did it" has its followers. Nice and simple.
How long was that 'singularity' there before it decided to go off on one?
Not a valid question, since there was no time either.
Don't try and apply common sense to this. It's like trying to describe colours to someone who can only see black and white. Just not possible.
I haven't said it is wrong and I haven't said a 'magic man did it'. I'm only asking Woppit to tell me a bit more about what he knows. But if you can shed some light on it, then that would be great.
Not a valid question, since there was no time either.
Sure, but if there was time, how long would it have been
Don't try and apply common sense to this. It's like trying to describe colours to someone who can only see black and white. Just not possible.
Hmmm, now this sounds familiar, I remember talking to some bloke who came to my door about something like this and he pretty much said the same thing
No wonder "a magic man did it" has its followers. Nice and simple.
It seems no simpler than "there was a magic singularity that suddenly went Bang!!! and everything that now exists suddenly appeared"
But if you can shed some light on it, then that would be great.
I'm quite relaxed about not understanding the detail.
I'll leave that to Dr Hawking and his mates. Reading his latest book might be a better bet than seeking the wisdom of aging IT professionals and occasional pedalers of overpriced toys. 🙂
It seems no simpler than "there was a magic singularity that suddenly went Bang!!! and everything that now exists suddenly appeared"
I bet the maths behind it is more complicated than what's behind the "magic man" theory.
I bet the maths behind it is more complicated than what's behind the "magic man" theory.
Ok, I'll take that on faith then
Ok, I'll take that on faith then
You don't have to. You could read a book about it. You could even study the proofs yourself.
You don't have to. You could read a book about it. You could even study the proofs yourself.
Nah, if long time believers like you haven't, I see no real need to.
sorry, I blinked, do I need to believe in God to believe in a scientific theory? Hmmm.
I think we don't need to worry about God. The soul on the other hand...
I am almost positive that time is not linear. I challenge any of you to prove beyond doubt that it is.
As far as I can see/observe each of us has our own timescape which changes and expands or contracts on a personal and biological level. Time does speed past and stand still.
Maybe
I challenge any of you to prove beyond doubt that it is.
Get with it! We did that already!!
Where?
You mean 'Where?' or 'When?'
Have we talked about mating a fox with a badger yet?
A fadger!
Although that sounds like it could get me a ban for swear-filter avoidance.
Sure, but if there was time, how long would it have been
Eh?
This apple is not an orange, but if it were, which way would it vote?
There wasn't time. Time does not apply to the pre-big bang situation. So why ask such things? It makes no sense.
What's 53 divided by 0?
I am almost positive that time is not linear.
Reality is subjective. Therefore time for us is indeed non-linear. Fairly basic, that 🙂
I am almost positive that time is not linear. I challenge any of you to prove beyond doubt that it is.As far as I can see/observe each of us has our own timescape which changes and expands or contracts on a personal and biological level. Time does speed past and stand still.
Maybe
I came here to post something similar.
I think time is linear. But can be variable for every person. Like if 1 second is a given period of time, for some people it may pass 'quicker' or 'slower' at a nervous level relative to other people. It always seems to that person to be be 1 second though. If that makes sense at all.
Take someone who is really fast at touch typing. Compared to me who is not. If I was sat inside their head, everything would be moving much slower compared to me... they have 'more time' (relative to me) to think about where their fingers are moving etc.
This would probably explain why some people are well good at things like F1 and Red Bull Air Races etc.
I DON'T KNOW! I've just confused myself. I can't really explain this any better.
There wasn't time. Time does not apply to the pre-big bang situation. So why ask such things? It makes no sense
So... what was this 'singularity'? How did it get there? When did it get there? Has it always been there?
What's 53 divided by 0?
Oh, you can't do that. division is only a model for use with numbers


