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I don't know if I'm reading anything into it, but I've noticed several examples of the same symbol being graffiti'd onto things in my area. It is like a single capital 'H' with the horizontal line extended a bit too far either end.

Sinister far-right symbol with 'H' being you know who?

Nod to the increasingly ridiculous Call of Duty?

Random local scrote called Horace?

I've seen it three or four times now and it one of those weird ones where when you have noticed it once, you keep seeing it. Any ideas?


 
Posted : 23/05/2021 8:34 pm
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Marking properties with dogs to steal 100%


 
Posted : 23/05/2021 8:47 pm
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Basic graffiti tag/signature from a newbie?


 
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Actually no idea. There's a lot of pisstaking ATM about paranoid dog owners viewing any sign/cabletie/peanut/cuddly toy outside their property as code.


 
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Helipads?


 
Posted : 23/05/2021 8:55 pm
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Random local scrote called Horace?

Seen any blokes on bikes too small for them recently?


 
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Marking properties with dogs to steal 100%

One site is the back of a road sign at a junction in the middle of nowhere.

Another is a gate on a byway/footpath, again in the middle of nowhere. In this instance the 'H' (if this is what it is) is duplicated on two sides of the post. It is also next to a sign that has the old 'NF' logo graffiti'd onto it.

These are what make me have a suspicion around some kind of ****y neo fascist sneaky/cunning/aren't we clever thing...


 
Posted : 23/05/2021 9:05 pm
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Random local scrote

Is the right answer. Unless, it means 'Horse for sale'. Where the 'Horse' could mean Heroin, Ketamine, or indeed, a horse. HTH.


 
Posted : 23/05/2021 9:35 pm
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I took the liberty of image searching right wing symbols. I’m probably on a list somewhere now, but I didn’t see anything vaguely matching.
Edit: I’m mostly posting this so that when they check me out I’ve got my story straight.


 
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It’s just a tag that’s appearing in random places. It’s what taggers do. It’s really quite possible to read too much into the random actions of some individual with a paint marker or spray can.


 
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RIP H


 
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Kind of A and H combined? Adolf Hitler springs to mind.


 
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It’s really quite possible to read too much into the random actions of some individual with a paint marker or spray can.

I hope so. It probably is. I'm just a bit more attuned to stuff like this in our 'modern' era of 'there is no place whatsoever for racism in this country - unless you want to use it in a nudge-nudge manner to win a referendum or an election'.


 
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I’d love to know what this graffiti symbol is all an
about. It’s literally everywhere round here on signs, walls, trees, sheds.....


 
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When I lived in Glasgow there was someone who sprayed a rubbish scrawly tag all around the area  that looked a bit bike it might be the initials 'S.E' but might not have been. It used to really grate on me because what the tagger lacked in finesse he made up for in quantity - it was a bad idea, it was lazily and carelessly executed and  it was everywhere I looked. He obviously lived somewhere close to where I lived - travelled in the directions I travelled and scrawled his mark everywhere he went,

Then one day he tagged my van - so I now really didn't like him.

A while later... I was in the goods lift of an art venue I did work for -when I noticed that scratched into the stainless steel wall of the lift.... the same bloody tag. There can't have been more than a few dozen people with access to that lift at the time- which meant this arsehole was probably part professional or social circle. I started eyeing people with suspicion - who did I know that worked there, was from my part of town, and was, despite being someone who worked in the field of art and design, aesthetically incontinent?

A while later still... I flew to Venice for short break, First morning setting out early to explore the city I look over my shoulder and the same bloody tag is in the wall of my hotel! - I'm certain it wasn't there when we arrived.

I genuinely started to wonder whether I had some sort of split personally - a Mr Hyde character with a can of blue car paint.

.... anyway the OP is called dannyH. Just sayin'.


 
Posted : 23/05/2021 11:05 pm
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Cook mey! Somebody has actually written a book about this graffiti! 😳


 
Posted : 23/05/2021 11:09 pm
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It is like a single capital ‘H’ with the horizontal line extended a bit too far either end.

Without a photo you're sort of describing any spray painted 'H'..... although hang on a minute - that second example looks a bit like the initials 'S.E.' - that bastard has even tagged google.


 
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I thought it was Donald Trump's signature...


 
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I thought it was Donald Trump’s signature…

Isn't that just a thumb print - with a slightly icky tinge of orange just perceivable around the edges?


 
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Without a photo you’re sort of describing any spray painted ‘H’….

Maybe that's been taken into account, it actually extends a 'bit' further than those examples. So that could mean the horizontal bar is longer than the H is tall. Fun.


 
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Posted : 24/05/2021 11:41 am
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It’s a real shame no one carries a device that can take photos with them, maybe one day such a thing will be invented.


 
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Our local newspaper ran a story about local residents in one part of the town being up in arms about their properties being tagged with chalk marks by criminal gangs DEFINITELY planning theft, murder, drugs networks, you name it...

Turns out it was a local running club marking out hashing routes for which they apologised in the following weeks paper. 🤣


 
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criminal gangs DEFINITELY planning theft, murder, drugs networks, you name it…

who needs burner phones and the dark web when you've got a box of chalk and a knowledge of Great Depression era hobo signs.


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 1:42 pm
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A friend of mine went to college in Hull some time in the 1980s. He was in a small post grad department and all of the student group were from out of town. On his walk to college there was a row of boarded up houses with 'NYEB OFF' scrawled in chalk on them.

Taking the to be local slang he started to tell his fellow students to 'nyeb off 'and soon they were all telling one another to 'nyeb off'.

Then - he passed the houses one morning - a guy was coming out of one of the newly shuttered up ones - he nailed the door shut, chalked 'NYEB OFF' on it - then got into a North Yorkshire Electricity Board van.


 
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Our local newspaper ran a story about local residents in one part of the town being up in arms about their properties being tagged with chalk marks by criminal gangs DEFINITELY planning theft, murder, drugs networks, you name it…

Turns out it was a local running club marking out hashing routes for which they apologised in the following weeks paper. 🤣

we had something similar with a Hare & Hounds route being marked by little piles of flour........or 'clear evidence of an ISIS Anthrax attack on the village' as the great minds of facebook had it


 
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El Barto


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 1:59 pm
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Does it look like this:

https://www.hospitalrecords.com/


 
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It’s a real shame no one carries a device that can take photos with them, maybe one day such a thing will be invented.

Yeah, but I really couldn't be arsed doing a full panorama view to get all the possible context in - so it would, for example, suggest it is not dog theft markings. My description of the 'tag' is not exactly difficult to interpret as it is just as I describe it. Other people who have obviously cracked the enigma code of linking to internet images on STW have come up with a likeness pretty easily.

And, frankly, this forum is shithouse when it comes to uploading anything other than YouTube links.

But other than those things.... yeah you're absolutely entitled to be a smart arse 🙄


 
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Can't you just pop out and take a photo of it please? Don't need context just need to see it. Every picture paints a story of a thousand words - even just a photo of a capital H 😀


 
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picks


 
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It is also next to a sign that has the old ‘NF’ logo graffiti’d onto it.

Yup, racists have gone all PC these days. Racist graffiti used to be along the lines of "****s out" and "****s go home" but now that's considered to be outdated and too offensive.

So instead they now use much more acceptable and less offensive graffiti, such as the subtle use of the letter "H".


 
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It’s not a local Gang tag is it? As silly as it sounds, we have one on the way to the local town on a massive roundabout sign. GN I think it is, that’s right outside Goole so is that a Gang borderline for other scrotes to know what area they’re going into?

Anyone in a gang is a Scrote 👍


 
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Anyone in a gang is a Scrote

Anyone?


 
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Yup, racists have gone all PC these days. Racist graffiti used to be along the lines of “* out” and “* go home” but now that’s considered to be outdated and too offensive.

So instead they now use much more acceptable and less offensive graffiti, such as the subtle use of the letter “H”.

Amusing as it is to see responses like this dripping with "I'm so worldly wise that I can see this is so ludicrous" sarcasm....

There have been numerous examples in recent times of the far right using nudge-nudge, aren't we clever 'secret' signs:

1. The dude on telly who had a far right tat that no one realised was any such thing before the program was filmed.

2. The Italian goalie with the '88' tat that most people didn't realise was a far right 'nod'.

3. The clothing brand Lonsdale taking action to make it difficult to wear whilst just showing the letters 'NSDA' - which is, apparently, a 'thing' amongst the far right.

Now much of this can be categorised as the equivalent of the bored, nerdy schoolboy who draws runes in his exercise book because he wants to appear 'hard' and/or 'edgy'. But all I was wondering was if this tag I've seen in three or four fairly disparate locations was a known far right symbol or not. It would seem not. That's super.

On all other matters, of course, I bow before the Mighty Ernie and his Font of Infinite Knowledge. I will not bring forth such trifles into the presence of the Oracle ever again. I have learned my lesson and recognise my position as a mere mortal.

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aren’t we clever ‘secret’ signs

Oh yes of course racists are so secretive when it comes to graffiti. And they like to impress people with their cleverness.

Btw you forgot the KKK on a packet of Marlboro, that's always a good one.


 
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I'm not worthy...

🤐


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 9:51 am
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Or perhaps as an alternative deal with your paranoia that half the British population are Nazis?

Some of what you post Danny is the mirror image of trumpian conspiracy stuff.


 
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It’s a sign I tell thee…

In the early internet days, there was ‘War chalking’, a series of chalked signs to advertise an open Wi-Fi network. Inspired by hobo symbols.

What you've seen is either a riff on a ‘Hobo symbol’ or maybe a secret code for dogging enthusiasts going by the location of them?


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 4:56 pm
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A local cult that leads it's follows to the coven by means of symbols?


 
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I’d love to know what this graffiti symbol is all an
about.

Some sort of resistance movement?


 
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I’d love to know what this graffiti symbol is all an
about.

Some sort of resistance movement?


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 6:42 pm
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Does it have the letters d a n n y preceding it and/or have you had any lapses of memory recently for which you cannot account your actions?


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 7:33 pm
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Does it have the letters d a n n y preceding it and/or have you had any lapses of memory recently for which you cannot account your actions?

Nicely done


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 7:45 pm
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DannyH it would take seconds to take a picture and about a minute and upload then post on here, a poor description is not going to get an answer as easy.


 
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@tillydog - lol. Deserves more appreciation!


 
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singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/weird-one-strange-graffiti-symbol/page/2/#post-11898568

The last couple of minutes of the bitcoin chart! 😉


 
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Or perhaps as an alternative deal with your paranoia that half the British population are Nazis?

Some of what you post Danny is the mirror image of trumpian conspiracy stuff.

Or that a significant lurch to the right of the political mood - signalled by the EU Referendum result and subsequently reinforced by Johnson's 80 seat GE victory - has emboldened a few proper far right shits to be a bit more overt? Remember the 'Go Home Polish Vermin' signs, for example?

Some of what you post, ernie, suggests that you may not be all that concerned about a 'Britain for the British' agenda so long as it suits your wider political agenda.


 
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I went out and got a quick photo of it for you as you can't seem to be arsed.

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I went out and got a quick photo of it for you as you can’t seem to be arsed.

😄

BTW - it isn't that I "can't be arsed" - it is that the STW forum is seemingly impossible to post anything to other than straight links. Photos I have taken myself seem to need some sort of flickr account and the 'post image' function is too difficult to fathom*.

*It probably isn't, but posting stuff on STW isn't a life and death matter for me - unlike some people**.

**Although, admittedly, on a thread I had started myself about a visual symbol, it might have been better if I had tried. 🙂

FYI - that is exactly what the symbol looks like - although you have infringed the artist's copyright as it ain't me doing it. 😉


 
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Move 1


 
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And, frankly, this forum is shithouse when it comes to uploading anything other than YouTube links.

But other than those things…. yeah you’re absolutely entitled to be a smart arse 🙄

By deliberately going out of your way to be obtuse, asking for help in identifying something then getting snippy when people point out that a photo would help, and then going all QAnon and suggesting murky right-wing significance is leaving yourself open to piss-taking, quite honestly.
It’s a very human thing to see patterns in inanimate things, it even has a name, and one of my favourite writers used it as the underlying concept for a book, but reading significance and malign intent in a random tag says more about you than it does about the tag.

BTW – it isn’t that I “can’t be arsed” – it is that the STW forum is seemingly impossible to post anything to other than straight links. Photos I have taken myself seem to need some sort of flickr account and the ‘post image’ function is too difficult to fathom*.

Are you new here? FWIW, posting photos on any forum requires the photo to be uploaded to a photo hosting site, STW is not unique in that requirement, and again you’re being obtuse, using excuses to make things difficult for everyone else then criticising them.
Flickr is very difficult to use, which is why there are alternatives that actually work, asking nicely will get you information that will allow you to post photos.
I could tell you which one I use, but I can’t be arsed.


 
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I could tell you which one I use, but I can’t be arsed.

Well that makes two of us so.... thread over. 🤷‍♂️


 
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Upload photo to postimages.org, you don't need an account. click hotlinks for forums and paste directly into the text box on here.

It really is simple.


 
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posting photos on any forum requires the photo to be uploaded to a photo hosting site, STW is not unique in that requirement

Er... maybe it is. Im on 5 forums and all except this one allow posting of images direct from your own computer.

Actually I was just thinking today that this forum is rather old hat, compared to others that are more modern.

Retrobike has recently updated to new forum software, and it allows direct uploads of images, as did the last forum host, with was pretty old even by RB standards. Could in fact call it retro forum hosting 😆


 
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@tillydog – lol. Deserves more appreciation!

Agreed, that was very good.

Remember the ‘Go Home Polish Vermin’ signs, for example?

I now have some very shiny rats.


 
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BTW – it isn’t that I “can’t be arsed” – it is that the STW forum is seemingly impossible to post anything to other than straight links. Photos I have taken myself seem to need some sort of flickr account and the ‘post image’ function is too difficult to fathom*.

It's not difficult, rather it's not possible as you say. The STW forum doesn't provide the facility to upload images. You need to first upload them to any one of a hundred other photo hosting sites and then link back. If you have a URL which is [anywhere else in the world .jpg] it will almost certainly work unless they're explicitly blocking hotlinking, and if your host barfs out bbcode it'll probably work. Where most people fall down is, Flickr is a prick for embedding from unless you've got a bit of tech nous, and Google Drive is for file sharing and not a photo hosting platform but should still work on a hyperlink even if it doesn't automatically embed inline.


 
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Er… maybe it is. Im on 5 forums and all except this one allow posting of images direct from your own computer.

I was once told that the decision not to host photos was deliberate rather than merely a shortcoming of the forum software. Something about swerving potential legal issues I think. But that was a very long time ago. Read into it what you may.


 
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Can someone start another thread to say when dannyh actually posts the symbol so i don't have to check here?
...Or maybe leave a secret sign somewhere?


 
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Flickr is very difficult to use,

Yet I used it to post my rendition of what DannyH saw and it took all of 30 seconds. I am an IT "expert" though as have worked in an IT org for 30+ years.


 
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Or perhaps as an alternative deal with your paranoia that half the British population are Nazis?

There’s no need to exaggerate. But given the extensive readership of the daily Seig heil and the number of right leaning Tory voters/ Brexiteers it’s safe to say there are a significant number of racist arses inhabiting the U.K. today.


 
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^^^

Which is basically where the original query 'came from'. It is probably one or two tits doing it - even if it turns out to be a 'tag' or 'hobo symbol'. I was just curious is all...

But not as curious as everyone on here has got just because I'm too inept/lazy to post a piccy on here.

Here's an idea. If I remember and if I can upload it, I'll take a piccy of one location to satisfy everyone's curiosity. I'll be passing by on my regular Saturday morning route.

🙂


 
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!remindme two days

Just kidding, the forum doesn't have that function. Also, I don't care.


 
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Also, I don’t care.

I'm not sure I'm all that bothered after all this....🙄


 
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I’ve just spent a couple of hours looking for the rat’s ass I couldn’t give…


 
Posted : 27/05/2021 11:18 pm
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I’ve just spent a couple of hours looking for the rat’s ass

Have you checked in Badlywireddog’s attic?


 
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Right. Attempt #1.

symbol 1


 
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^^^^

And there it is. ****ing impossible.

Please close this thread. Please.

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And there it is. ****ing impossible.

You're close but no cigar - you've used the right kind of image host but maybe the wrong choice of link - rom the 'share' symbol you get a bunch of link options - choose anything that is a straight forward URL without any <clutter in tags> airing it and that ends in .jpg - copy and paste that straight into the text box of your post - if its going to work it'll show up as an image for you there in the the text box before you post - if it doesnt click the little 'picture' symbol image above the text box (the one furthest on the right) and try pasting it there - again if it works it'll appear in the text box before your post.

You can do it - we believe in you!


 
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Well considering its location next to the NF symbol I think you have something. I've seen them about as well, not far from swastikas...  I go back and deface the swastikas and turn them into hearts.  That reminds me to go and get some new cans.

Seeing this shit turn up again is soul destroying, we really have bollocksed up as a country for this to rear its head. I know we won't ever rid ourselves of racist scum but they should at least live in fear of being outed as racists and keep it to themselves.


 
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symbol #1

symbol #2

symbol #3

I suppose the irony now would be that it is a tag of an anti-tech, Luddite group...😊


 
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I know we won’t ever rid ourselves of racist scum but they should at least live in fear of being outed as racists and keep it to themselves.

Well, that's what happens when it is tacitly legitimised by people that ought to know better.

The other place I have seen it is on the reverse of a village name sign, at least 5-6 miles away. Same person? Probably not. If not, it is something that is known to more than one individual. If far-right, then not good.


 
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Some sort of resistance movement?

Groan :-(. 'Aven't you got an ohm to go to?


 
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Groan :-(. ‘Aven’t you got an ohm to go to?

Aha an electronics joke no wonder I didn't get it! Maybe Stuart Lee could make a joke about zig zag lines, spray cans, surface resistance and social disobedience but not me.


 
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Well considering its location next to the NF symbol I think you have something. I’ve seen them about as well, not far from swastikas…

It's ok, though, because you must be mistaken too.

Ernielynch, our resident expert on every bleeding thing under the sun, says it is just paranoia and the mirror image of Trumpian conspiracy whatnots...

🙄

👌🍆💦🤦‍♂️


 
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Yeah it's obviously some sort of elaborate Nazi conspiracy. Probably secret assembly points or sumfink.

Have you reported it to the police? I'm sure they'll be interested.


 
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It’s not exactly ’next’ to a clearly old NF tag, it’s several feet away on a gatepost, both on the front and top, which, to me, suggests it’s a marker intended as a waymark or a guide for navigating a route, maybe for a cross-country team. Many such teams have the word ‘Harriers’ included in their name, so a modified ’H’would make sense. If it was anything to do with a Nazi/Fascist group, I’d expect to see ‘18’, as in Combat 18, those being the first and eighth letters in the alphabet, and Adolph’s initials.
But perhaps that’s too obvious…
… for some, anyway.


 
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