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Actually **** it, you win.
I'm a snivelling **** who's desperately trying to blame everyone and everything else for failure. I'd rather clutch at scientific straws for excuses than face facts.
Happy now? After two days of trying to explain myself and stick up for myself I'm now thoroughly pissed off and upset. Think what the **** you like.
I hope I never meet some of you in real life, cos if that's really me I'd be embarassed as hell.
Finally we're getting somewhere...
😉
I have not had a go at you tbh I barely know what the thread is about
I have not had a go at you tbh I barely know what the thread is about
That's no excuse not to have a pop at someone else. I don't care if you're ill... GTF on with it.
Yeti you self obsessed narcissistic meat head gym freak
happy now ?
That's my boy!
I hope that's how you imagine me to be in real life as when we meet you'll realise I'm a chubby shy loser.
All the awesomeoness is still going on in my head though.
I would like to see a change to this forum where OPs are allowed to close their own threads
Hah! Is anyone going to answer the OP's question?
I can't remember what it was... link?
I can't fly, I have no wings. Is that an excuse?
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Upset is good Molly, you can only move in a positive way now
Right, you want to race MTBs with reasonable results?
It ain't going to happen this year
Take the next 9 months or so to ride your bike a lot more, like every day
Enjoy it, take the family along sometimes, stop at a pub for a beer occasionally.
Eat sensibly with an aim to lose that 10kg you say you need to drop, weigh yourself every Monday morning and adjust your activity/food intake to suit how you're progressing
You want a cake and a latte? Fine, go out and earn it first with an extra hours hard exercise, it'll taste better too.
Next March, take stock of you achievements and start some proper training.
I guess this thread could be construed as internet bullying. 😐
*very disappointed with TSY and philconsequence cos they seem so nice in real life*
*hugs to molgrips as he is genuinely nice in real life*
Worry not, I've closed the door behind me.
Worry not, I've closed the door behind me.
Yeah, but you are hiding behind it with a glass on the door.
*whispers about CG*
Sorry C_G but I just didn't think he needed mollycoddling any longer.
Hopefully he'll pull his finger out and prove us all wrong.
Not sure which is worse, the character assaults or the patronising.
I appreciate the sentiment though jota, thanks.
cinnamon_girl - Member
I guess this thread could be construed as internet bullying.
+1. C'mon everyone, give this a break. Its really not very pleasant.
Happy now?
no, i want you to win races.... i think you've got the potential to, you say its a dream of yours, i think you can do it... just gotta get round to actually doing it!
i even started a thread asking parents about how they win races and balance family life/jobs hoping to find some advice i could bring to this thread...., and there was lots of people on there saying its possible.
but never mind.
genuinely look forward to the day you start a thread titled "I WON!!!" ..... but i suppose people being blunt and honest about how much it takes to train to win races isn't accepted unless its paid for and shouted at you by a trainer.
oh well
But Phil, I don't need bluntness and honesty. I understand all about effort, commitment and denial. I've never claimed these things aren't necessary.
All I've been trying to do is talk about why it's difficult for me in my situation. You all then assumed I was making excuses.
I really don't understand what response you expected Molly?
If you want something bad enough you find ways of getting around the obstacles. You can then share with others how you've gone about over coming them.
i always try to be honest molly, and if being honest means coming across in a blunt way... then that's something i have to deal with if people take it as a personal insult.
i do mean what i say when i say i think you could win races, and i think (as shown by the other thread) that its something you could realistically achieve with the right training/balancing with being a good dad.
i also meant what i said a few pages back about exercising for your health, not just winning races, its more time to spend on this planet with your daughter 🙂
and i also meant it when i said i was worried about your 'i find my body disgusting' comments, having spent years around eating disorders and having grown up in a family where everyone else in the household was dieting and going on about how they hated their bodies... no matter how many times your parent/s say 'but you're beautiful the way you are' etc etc, it rubs off on the kids and they develop their own issues. its something i know from both personal and professional experience. your daughter is probably the most beautiful thing in the world to you, but if she grows up with a dad who describes his body as disgusting there's a fair chance it'll rub off on her, no matter how beautiful she is.
again, i genuinely mean it when i think you could win races with the right effort, training, time etc etc, and i think you sound like a great dad. if this has all come across as blunt, then apologies... but i'm being honest. i like my relationships with other's to be based around honesty.
oh in that case phil you are a ****
cheers junky
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[i]Not sure which is worse, the character assaults or the patronising.[/i]
[i]All I've been trying to do is talk about why it's difficult for me in my situation. You all then assumed I was making excuses.[/i]
But none of the advice is patronisng though is it, it's been the same simple statement all the way through. Stop giving in to cake (you've admitted that's what you do) and find time to exersize loads of people have given you loads of ways that they do it, and given you examples of how much effort it takes them to get anywhere in races. we all struggle like you, I'll bet very few people on here are naturally good, we all work/go to college, we all have the same weather, and time issues.
Molly, none of us are any different to you really, ok we all are different shapes and whatever, I get to see my gf for just the weekend, I could bore you with all the arguments we've had about me running for 2 hours every sunday morning with the club when we haven't seen each other all week. I struggle with fags the same as you struggle with cake ok? I sympathise with you. Chris my housemate loves beer, he can get through 10 a session easy, hence having to do a 1500cal diet LOL He's got a 1st team rugby shirt pinned on the wall above the fridge, just to remind him why he does it.
I think you need to give yourself some time, and space away from the "training"! first to loose some weight and then to see your going the right way, but pick a method, give it a year at least (it takes ages to loose weight), and then see what happens, rather than jump from one thing to another and another.
love (lots) really
Amelia
Well thanks for the kind words, really. But really, it's all obvious stuff. And remember it's not my thread, all I did was chip in then try and defend myself when people started mis interpreting my posts.
I've trained for years, with some successes, but without consistency. I am fully aware of what it means to ride for fun and to train and race. I've had all this in my mind for years and I do understand it. Saying eat less cake and do more riding is not really useful as it's just too obvious, I don't need reminding. I don't eat cake because I'm unaware of the consequences.
I could give up trying, but I don't want to. As long as I am able I will keep trying to get what I want, and I will certainly face problems along they way.
I do think we are all on a spectrum of different body types, this is starkly clear; and I think I am not in the middle of it. I do try to work to my strengths, and I do try to adjust what I do to find out what works for me. There's no point following the same plan as everyone else when it doesn't work quite right for me, is there?
As for eating a normal healthy diet and riding for fun - do you think I've never tried that in 20 years of biking? I don't try diets just for fun, I need to understand why I still weigh too much despite riding and healthy eating.
And the disgusting body thing was not meant the way you think. It makes me cross with myself that I have failed where so many others have succeeded, that is all.
[i] Saying eat less cake and do more riding is not really useful as it's just too obvious[/i]
Don't understand what you mean by too obvious??
Molly, pretty much everyone who's every been sucessful atlosing weight and getting fitter does It because of these "obvious" things.
Don't understand what you mean by too obvious??
As in I am already well aware of the principle, but it doesn't really answer all the questions.
Doing more riding is also one of the things I am not really in a position to do. So I need to make the time that I do have really count.
Which is where the targetted training comes in.
I rode with a bloke in the US who had done 7,400 miles riding that year so far, including a 7 hour turbo trainer session. He was much slower than me on my thousand or so miles this year.
So 'ride more' doesn't necessarily benefit you even if you have the time.
I need to understand why I still weigh too much despite riding and healthy eating.
You miscalculated or lied to yourself
So 'ride more' doesn't necessarily benefit you even if you have the time.
it does for 99.9999999999999999% of the population
Stop it now and behave yourself, you could have had all this sorted if you hadn't spent so long over-analysing it
FFS... this will never end.
Mol - yes it's hard. But sometimes you have to do the obvious things... or just stay the way you are.
What questions doesn't it answer?
it does for 99.9999999999999999% of the population
Quality not quantity.
Do junk miles if you want, I 'm not going to.
Done it before, was not happy with the results. But I was probably wrong, being shit for brains.
What questions doesn't it answer?
Questions like: Why would one not lose weight, when they bookend a 20mile ride with enough maltodextrin to raise the nation's obesity rate by several percentage points.
Now you are just making stuff up for the sake of being nasty. I'm out if this one, email in profile if any one wants to talk more. Utterly no point in replying to Jamie's shite.
Quality not quantity.
More people lie about the latter...
Perhaps it is worth us moving away from bashing Molly's attempts and talking a little about our own diets and training.
Molly what do you do?
Utterly no point in replying to Jamie's shite.
Edit: The thing is, it's true Mr Grips. I have been reading STW long enough to see you constantly sabotaging any attempts to reach your weight goals, by thinking you are outside the laws of thermodynamics.
Jamie - you used to be a lot funnier when you were fatter.
Ignore Jamie Molly, cmon what doesn't it answer
From what I have read, I reckon part of the 'problem' is unrealistic goals.
If your goal is so far from your current circumstance you will never get there as it will seem too far a leap.
This tri, then....? I think it was mentioned that it is billed as the hardest tri in the UK? And you are aiming for that as a goal, along with winning a race.
My Bro-in-law started doing tri's a few years back. He has 2 kids and fits training in around family & trying to grow a new business. He is a very driven individual & when he wants to be can be very strict with diet etc.
His first triathlons were small, low key affairs so he could see where he fits in the scheme of things and so he has a starting point; a baseline to go from.
It does sound like there are many excuses about why you shouldn't enter an event, but you need to get a stake in the ground. Then you can say that you did a certain event and you came last/mid-pack/first. Doesn't really matter where you finish, it gets your eye in about where you need to go.
I sound a bit like you.
I am a bit over weight, I love a bit of cake with some over-priced coffee and would love to be fitter/do better at races.
Recently I decided to tackle the weight thing, and stuck My Fitness Pal on my phone. It's not brilliant, but does allow me to track what I am eating and allows me to see where the calories are coming from. It has set me a target for calorie consumption based on my modest goal of losing 1lb a week.
With regards to the fitness/races. I ride probably 4hrs/week as well if I am lucky. I know this is not enough to improve my fitness; in fact i think it barely sustains it. I would expect to have to double it, to achieve a modest improvement. For me, I think I need to write down on the calendar exactly when I should ride. At the moment, I always find an excuse not to ride, whereas if it is written down I think I would be more likely to do it....
[i] At the moment, I always find an excuse not to ride, whereas if it is written down I think I would be more likely to do it....[/i]
That is soo much like me, if I write it down, I can tick it off!!
Post deleted due to solipsism. Emsz email me if you want to know about the questions.
As for eating a normal healthy diet and riding for fun - do you think I've never tried that in 20 years of biking? I don't try diets just for fun, I need to understand why I still weigh too much despite riding and healthy eating.
Molgriups - you do not eat a normal healthy diet.
You eat between half and a kilo of highly refined sugar / maltodextrin (which acts on your body like glucose) a week by your own admission. That is highly damaging to your health and will both prevent weight loss [i][b]and cause hunger[/b][/i].
However over many discussions you do not want to accept this how damaging this is.
Its your sugar habit that causes you to both gain weight and feel hungry - you have to train your body away from it or accept being overweight.
You do not need it to fuel your minimal training / recovery. What you need is a healthy balanced diet and ore long acting carbs
this is not making things up to be nasty - its your own previous admission of what you do.
Ssssh! TJ, he knows what he's doing.
Someone's got to call Troll again!
Molly - get a copy of The Feed Zone... I reckon it can help us all.
Molgrips, your stone throwing ability is not enhanced by the vitreous nature of your current dwelling.
Crikey, I try to learn from other people.
Big difference.
Anyway mods please close this thread, I can't stop myself apparently.
can't stop myself apparently.
Stop it Molly... you're chucking petrol on the fire.
Anyway - The Feed Zone looks at timing and quality of nutrition for training for athletes and fitness enthusiasts. The promo extract I've got is covered in pics that look similar to iDiet recipes.