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A black Pelagos FXD. I like it. Purest toolage, at a price!
That looks good in the black, and I like the utilitarian/rugged nature of the fixed lugs and nato strap. A bidirectional bezel would feel wrong to me, so that's a good tweak.
A slightly irrational niggle of mine with the Pegalos is the amount of text on the dial. Although I'd rather they had omitted the "officially certified" and/or "chronometer", the new red "Pegalos" assuages the sea of white text, while adding a nice splash of colour.
FFS, *that's* what Tudor was making a big song and dance about the build up to? Talk about milking something for all its worth - this is what, the third Pelagos FXD version?
Well I ran my 2002 Seamaster 120m automatic chronometer against a digital stopwatch for 24 hours and the result was +/- 0.00 s.
And it's never been serviced.
Not bad eh?
Not bad eh?
That's amazing Derek. I created an Omega account and registered mine which showed all the testing for it, with the accuracy at 0.003 per day. I was pretty amazed by that, but yours after 20 years, wow.
Didn't know you could see Omega testing data? Is it for any watch or just certain models? Registered my Speedy when I bought it but havn't noticed that option?
Only METAS stuff I think
My co-axial SMP has it, but my old Speedy doesn’t
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That makes sense, it's not the most accurate thing out of all my watches, but still wears the best 😀
i didn't know that, but then its what it does on the wrist, or ofen harder is on the bedside table, that matters!
What have you done to your SMP Kato, 2s a day!!!
2.2s is after it's exposed to 15000 gauss and two temperature zones, it's average 6 positions when 33-100% power is 0.7s
Which still isn't as good as my £30 waveceptor Casio
My smp runs at somewhere around-0.5s/d I think, I say think as it's a while since I've checked. It's currently 3 secs slow and I remember checking it recently and it was +1, that was a week ago, maybe 2.
My po runs bang on basically, but had recently started to slow by several seconds when it's state of wind is low. We'll....I had it on the bedside table for a weekend and it had lost 10+ secs but it could have been about to stop by they point.
My pelagos is as accurate, +1 iirc.
I don't think I've checked the zenith beyond it runs about right.
My snr035 +8.5secs per month
In my need for watch boxes to sell the “bottom half” of my collection I came across the Watch which Cannot be Worn:
Still looks great IMO and will be my de facto Hols watch when that damnable war ends.
When all the murdered people come back to life?
It's a watch, it doesn't (AFAIK) have overt links to the military and putin, if you like it wear it. Would I buy Russian now, no. But Russian stuff I have I use. I bought 1000 Gillette 7 o'clock sharp edge (yellow) about 4 years Ago.... enough shaves to see me to about 110, they Are Russian made, should I grow a beard?
My apologies. It wasn’t my intention to bring politics into the thread.
It's not whether people do or don't want to wear something Russian which I'm questioning - it's more the logic of not wearing it then once it's declared over going back to wearing it?
Maybe why Swiss watches are so popular?!
Oh, do we not talk/ trade etc with Italy, Japan, Germany etc? I think the assumption is 'over' means the world is trying to reintegrate and end the isolation.
Tasteful name, tasteful design. Not.
Tsar Bomba. The most powerful thermonuclear weapon ever created and detonated.
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This is for @kato
https://unclestraps.com/en-gb/products/us1479-bracelet-omega-seamaster-300m?variant=44242072273129
They have others that fit too as do forstner, and all are good quality I hear. I like mine on its black sailcloth with white stitching but still find myself looking at those bracelets, I think they really suit it
Checking my smp again against time is it is running -1s/d.
Hello! Reverso has finally gone to the AD for a battery swap, which will hopefully cure the stop/start action. The guy on the desk did note some spots of apparent limescale on the back of the case - fingers crossed....
I tried on a Tudor Pelagos FXD MN23 in Bucherer. I liked the fit but the blue doesn't compare to my normal Pelly, so no.
After that, I made a beeline for Blancpain, asking to see the FF Bathyscaphe triple calendar. The case shape and size were nice, and the dial ok, but I really can't stand the handset. Then the salesman suggested the FF triple calendar chrono flyback. I'd never considered it before, as it looks super busy on the website, but in person.... sumptuous! It is waaaaayyyyy more than I ever spent on a watch (RRP €26k and change) but of course, negotiations and secondhand options, as it is a model around since 2010 I think. In any case, if I went for it, I'd have to sell or px most of my collection: Milgauss, Pelly, Oris Propilot, even my VC Patrimony. It is, admittedly, a full poser git watch, but maybe I should just own it - literally and figuratively... (yes, I have asked service costs....)
Cheaper option, I saw some Pequignets in the wild this morning, after suffering through my son's lycée parents' meeting!
Pequignet movement
@gaidong The rear view is much nicer than the front. Just like a girl I used to know... 🤣
Ooo oo aaaaand I spotted one of those nice Zenith el primero chronomaster sport jobbies for sale NEW in La Rochelle a couple of days ago for €6.5k. Bargain 👍
This is the black dial variant but not in the shop. Same case as the white dial.
New at €6500? That would be a 'batter the door down bargain' they are a £10k watch and not easy to get so discounts not really available.
I like the fifty fathoms a lot. Even in the straight up non complicated guise they are too much for my wallet but, nice.
They are too much for my wallet too, but it could be done if all else were sacrificed. I quite like the idea of the juxtaposition though; an academic with fairly sh1tty pay, who dresses like a tramp, yet wears a glorious beast of a watch!
Absolutely. If I’d have seen a Chronomaster Sport for €6500 when I was in La Rochelle last month it would now be in the UK with me!
Hi folks, any idea on values for a Seiko Monster SKX779 boxed and with papers? It’s time to thin out the collection and whilst it’s a great watch, it’s just not being worn anymore.
Hi folks, any idea on values for a Seiko Monster SKX779 boxed and with papers?
Much as I love the 779 I reckon you'll be doing well to get £300 for it on a bracelet, a bit less on rubber. Have a look at completed sales on eBay though, it's a while since I looked.
Anyone got any interest in a PO. My mate is selling a minter to part fund something else. Wants £3k
Well, my offer from Watchbox for the Blancpain was.... I now have my Milgauss and VC Patrimony up for sale. The Oris isn't worth selling (Watchbox offered me €600!) and as for my Pelagos, I can't find the warranty card! @Neil, is there a secret compartment in the box for it? I've taken all apart I could without ripping it into pieces. I am the original owner, with invoice and everything, so very strange I haven't got the card. I keep all my watch-y stuff in a safe, so it can't have disappeared!
Firesale round Gaidongs house.... 😀
Selling privately? Watchbox wont take your collection as a trade in bundle at an equitable price? (presume not re the Oris price offered....)
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😀 This is genuine lol!
Dumb question here, but my first time asking it... When thinking of Tudor, Oris and others - so I guess around the £1-4k mark - where do you guys tend to sell, or where do you recommend selling?
Is Watchbox any good (never even visited the site, dunno what it is)? Anyone use Chrono24 or ebay? Anywhere else?
Sorry gaidong, it's a major exercise to reach my box so I can't check, but I don't recall anything extra secret. Most boxes either have a flap under the lid or the shaped card 'nest ' for the watch will lift out and cards go under there.
If you really can't find it though I'll make the effort to get the box out.
Delays and even escrow type sites need to make a living so the buy price is well below the sell.
Sell to a dealer, easy but worst price
Sell via escrow eg chrono24, next easiest and get a bit more
Sell privately/ via eBay most risky but may get best price.... but still way down on the price on the preowned one in a goldsmiths window.
Then you've got watch communities like tz-uk which take a lot of risk out but you should be pricing at about ebay sales price. Maybe even minus the fees.
No, I think the Watchbox offer was a bit beyond the Pale. I recognise they have a business to run but any deal needs to have both parties happy, right?! They moved a bit on the Blancpain price to be fair but I'm not prepared to be eviscerated on my side. Also, I just discovered, that Chrono24 now insists on having my tax number (numéro fiscal) when we place an advert. I read the French tax rules but it wasn't clear if I have to pay tax on the full proceeds or just the profit (if any). I withdrew the Rolex but went ahead with the VC, as it's very unlikely to make a profit and there is a threshold of €5k anyway. As for a firesale, we are selling the kids' beds, desks and wardrobes; all from Flexa and costing a pretty penny but secondhand prices make me want to use them for firewood!
Remind me gaidong, which oris is it?
@blazin-saddles, that po is one of the 2500 movement first generation. A lot of people prefer them as they are thinner (more wearable) than the later 8500 movement watches as they don't have a display case back. It should sell readily enough. The exact age will be of interest to a clued up buyer, and most buyers of a2500 will be. That's because the early ones had a problem and stopped. They got corrected with a new movement. The 2500 is basically an eta2824 modified to have a coaxial escapement but the coaxial escapement doesn't like running at a high beat.... or even at the fairly standard 4hz/8bps. The cure was to slow it down to 3.5/7. I can't recall the details of a,b,c and d variants but the earlier ones aren't wanted as they don't work reliablly.
where do you guys tend to sell, or where do you recommend selling?
I sold my Tag Heuer to a pawn brokers called Ramsdens for what I considered a decent price. They can afford to do it because they are trying to sell it for a frankly crackers price, its been on their website for months as a consequence.
@neil. Good info thanks. It’s a 2009. He has already had a (lowball) offer from the dealer he’s looking to buy his next one from, but hoping to close the gap a bit.
I'd consider £3k very toppy. Not impossible but it needs to be prefect, recently serviced by a decent watchmaker and the right variant of movement (I can't remember when the po first appeared but it got the 8500 by 2011 I think so 2009 should be fine. )
@Neil, it's a Propilot Day-date I bought this January. I only offered it to make up the trade bundle.
I thought it was. Had it been an aquis I may have made you an offer..... thankfully its not so I can continue the slow saving to pay the fund off for the zenith! That's going to take a while.
Yeah, I'm happy to keep the Oris. It could serve for places I wouldn't dare wear a really pricey piece. And I just like it, it is probably the sort of watch someone with my income should be satisfied with. Whoops!
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I agree and I think the prices he’s been seeing and based it on are from over enthusiastic owners trying to sell.
speaking of which, I fancy getting into the White SMP club at some point and I’m not that familiar with Omega nuances. Is there any difference in movement or whatever from a 20/21/22 model to the very handsome new one Kryton (and others) are now sporting? I’m only asking as WatchFinder have a “sale” on and there’s three with the same model number at different price points that don’t tally with age. The ‘21 plate for £3,630 has caught my eye.
Let's have a real VFM post:
My new Baltany 39mm retro military auto.
100m WR, sapphire AR glass, screw-down crown and Seiko auto movement.
I changed the OEM strap to a Hirsch Kent as I like them. And it came on tan which I hate.
Watch was just £150 with a voucher code.
Now that is VFM.
I can't imagine it would heat up gaidong's gentleman's area.
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Just scrolling by........gaidong, if you have a feel for a more realistic valuation of your Oris pm me with a few pictures of the rear and strap clasp,is it automatic 752 caliber? regards.
@Derek, I am caressing my computer screen right now....
@blazin_saddles that watch has the same reference as my my watch, as checked via my Omega account. Its second hand of course.
Thanks Kryton. Yes, used examples. I’ve actually seen a slightly cheaper one since asking the question as well, but it’s on a bracelet but I fancy the rubber strap instead. Wasn’t planning on buying anything though so trying to ignore for now. I have just sold a bike however…
Special occasion so the Planet Ocean gets a run out. Really should wear it more often.
The Baltany is lovely!
I love the PO nobby. I would, that exact watch was my first luxury watch and still my favourite.
Blazin, price difference will be condition. Myself, as I wear my watches, hairline and swirls don't bother me at all. If the cheapest one on bracelet looks ok get it, the bracelet is worth considerably more than even the oem rubber so just sell it.... although I'd say there are plenty of high quality rubber straps to fit that are far less than the oem. I'll also say again....£20 ish for a snide omega deployant from etsy and a similar amount for a black sailcloth with white stitching looks very good on the watch.
Thanks a fair point Neil, food for thought.
@jamesco, sorry, I missed your message. At the moment my Oris isn't for sale. I have to shift the Milgauss and the VC Patrimony to make up the bulk of the funds I need for the Blancpain. Plus the Pelagos, once I have seen my AD about the missing card! If I can possibly do so, I'll keep the Oris. If you look online you can find them new for about €1500, well worth it IMO.
Talking of online selling... I'm not sure how Chrono24 is looking in the UK but in France we now have to give Chrono24 our tax number (numéro fiscal), so we automatically get billed for 6.5% by the state, in addition to the 6.5% seller's fee! And it's not even on the profit, the whole price gets taxed, grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
But as you asked, and I have the photos...
My friend Tom of Clemence Watches (Edinburgh based microbrand) is just about to release his second model this month - The Munro.
https://www.clemencewatches.com/
No worries @gaidong, I saw the picture that you originally put up and I was smitten-looking for a good day/work watch. Thanks for the other photos they give me a good idea of the strap and fixing, do you think it would extend enough to be secure on my 8" (sorry 20cm) wrist? Off to search the net now, thanks.
Is there any difference in movement or whatever from a 20/21/22 model to the very handsome new one Kryton (and others) are now sporting?
The SMP 300m Omega was updated in 2018 with the 8800 movement- the "Co-Axial Master Chronometer" Since then they all have the laser-cut wave dial. Being Omega they do a range of different colourways, including the much-vaunted and admired white dial version. Search carefully through the various online and marketplace style sellers you'll find loads for sale. I paid 3800 for a near-mint October '22 one in blue through eBay's authentication process. You should be able to find one on a rubber strap for between 3000 and 3500 depending on age. They need servicing between 5 and 8 years from new, and that'll be around the £450-500 mark via Omega ADs so factor that in if you're looking at buying one of the earlier ones.
Edit: There are plenty of clowns who have seen the price rise from last year to this and think they're going to get their money back, so are advertising theirs at 4.5K . I walked into a jeweller in August and enquired about the price of a brand new one (RRP £5500 on bracelet) and without even prompting was told they'd discount it to £4750.
and without even prompting was told they’d discount it to £4750.
+1 mine mine was £4400, but I was told this was very much the floor, hence they threw in an almost free Citizen Promaster for my son to close the deal.
I hunted for a deal new via a grey dealer and paid £3600 on the bracelet, that was a20% discount.
Liking the Clement Ridgeline face, that's pretty unique. I'm sure there will be plenty that disagree, but it's a bold move. Nice one.
Meh, you'll just have to have a link, can't work out how to link to photo's as a full member, only upload from my own PC.
@jamesco, an 8" wrist would be perfect for this watch. Mine is 7.25" and it's ok but on the limit. It would be ideally balances for yours.
Even if the OEM strap wasn't long enough (mine has over an inch spare), the clasp mechanism, which I love, can be put on any 22/20 mm (taper) replacement of similar thickness (1.5mm?). I have worn my hiking, snorkelling the lot, and I think it looks great.
Thanks for your help, as I say I was smitten by your first picture and the clasp just cemented the whole thing , a few deals about as you say and also an 'unworn' one on Chrono24 although a couple of years old . Dunno if anything has changed much in the last couple of years. Also found a lovely bronze 'date pointer' 80th anniversary Oris in a shop online .... must stop NOW!
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Even if the OEM strap wasn’t long enough (mine has over an inch spare), the clasp mechanism, which I love, can be put on any 22/20 mm (taper) replacement of similar thickness (1.5mm?). I have worn my hiking, snorkelling the lot, and I think it looks great.
The Oris deployant is a wonderful thing; I like their strap too, and like you I've used my Oris all round day to day. I've found with my puny (170mm or so) wrist that it wears smaller than you'd think from its size, too.
