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All this hype about them makes me want one even more! I even looked at what they were priced at on eBay last night, which is presumably the most speculative of speculation, as the flipper might not even get one.

I'm 47 years old FFS, it's just ridiculous. 🙄


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 8:41 am
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Currently stood in the queue at the Covent Gareen store…..it’s quite large and I’m at the back…..
Anyone else in a queue?


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 9:02 am
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Posted : 26/03/2022 9:08 am
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I was going but overslept.  Then figured they’ve said they’re not limited so will chance online.  Fingers crossed you get one!

I won’t be paying a flippers premier though. I’m hoping they’ll be stuck with them if there’s a general online release in the coming weeks


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 9:16 am
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All this hype about them makes me want one even more!

It's having the opposite effect on me, bit I'm a miserable sod today anyway...


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 9:22 am
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It’s having the opposite effect on me

Likewise.

I wonder which models will prove the most and least popular. Some of them are truly gopping! That Saturn one...


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 9:28 am
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Gave up. Was a massive queue and not moving fast. I‘ll wait until they’re more available.


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 9:53 am
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I'm waiting for the realistic reviews that confirm that they are plastic tat.


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 11:28 am
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I've recently inherited a rolex datejust with a jubilee bracelet. The bracelet it is pretty stretched so I wondered if anyone had recommendations for somewhere to restore it , or any idea of what a new one might cost. Here is a picture for reference:


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 11:29 am
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I also inherited that same Rolex, far to gaudy for my tastes I’m saving it for a rainy day. Can’t help you on the bracelet though.


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 11:45 am
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I’m waiting for the realistic reviews that confirm that they are plastic tat.

I couldn't get over "Mission to Uranus" at 1:33..... 😀


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 11:55 am
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They really look quite fragile to me. That battery cover on the back looks like it could just pop off at any moment.


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 11:59 am
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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/moonswatch-hundreds-queue-for-hours-outside-edinburgh-watch-store-on-saturday-as-omega-x-swatch-collab-sparks-shopping-frenzy-3628502?amp

Long lines began to form early this morning outside of Swatch on Princes Street, and soon the queue was snaking all the way up Frederick Street, onto Rose Street, and at one point as far as Charlotte Square.

Very glad I didn’t bother!


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 1:50 pm
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Wow!!

Take a look on eBay sold items - Moonswatch Mission to Moon sold for £6100!!!

WTAF!!


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 1:57 pm
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I was in Edinburgh and walked past the Swatch shop around 11.30. Signs everywhere Moonswatch sold out.
Was in the Vacheron store and the lady said they started queuing last night. Q was huge by all accounts. One of the Vacheron salemen said he went along early this morning and all sold out.


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 4:15 pm
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I'm not sure I believe that... Is there some way of faking a sold item to drive the price up??


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 4:17 pm
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It will just show what they sold for at the end of the auction not whether anyone paid

There was a Mission to Mars bid up to £63000 last night

no one is paying that


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 4:34 pm
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The launch of the Bioceramic MoonSwatch Collection is an incredible success that exceeded all expectations.

We would therefore like to remind you that there will be watches available in the selected Swatch Stores in the coming weeks as it is not a limited edition.

For the moment, we have to update the purchase limit to one watch per person until further notice. We will revert back to two watches per person as soon as possible.

#MoonSwatch
#OMEGAXSwatch

I see they closed the London stores!


 
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They really look quite fragile to me. That battery cover on the back looks like it could just pop off at any moment

Sounds fairly authentic to me, one of the originals popped a crystal on one of the missions and needed bailing out by a Bulova.


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 7:00 pm
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Love the comments on the watch foums saying this is a perfect way for 'young people' to get into the watch game. Like paying £3k for a plastic watch is your gateway in...


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 9:34 pm
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Do they not mean it's a way in at 200 quid?


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 9:37 pm
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Are the prices advertised on chrono24, watchfinder etc realistic? If so, which would people recommend?

I have a 3 year old Rolex milgauss z-blue. I liked it well enough at the time but have only worn it <20 times as it’s too ostentatious for me. I think it was about £6k new but it looks like I could ask £12-14k for it now and that money would be better spent elsewhere…


 
Posted : 26/03/2022 9:59 pm
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I was working in Hanover Square yesterday and the queues were unlike anything i've seen. The queue was from Oxford street, down New Bond Street, Brook Street past Fenwicks then all of Hanover Square

For £200 i'll be getting one retail


 
Posted : 27/03/2022 5:16 am
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@dc2.0, I've sold a Rolex on Chrono24 before. If you're nervous you can offer it to Chrono themselves. Take decent pictures of the watch and all bits and pieces, and they'll make you an offer. You'll get less but the process is easy.

Or you can sell it yourself. Same decent photos, honest description, and away you go. Only real difference is you're responsible for the shipping. I've made about 10 successful sales there. You get market price, for good or bad!


 
Posted : 27/03/2022 6:41 am
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Reading between the lines, I don't think Jody's all that impressed:


 
Posted : 27/03/2022 4:43 pm
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@tthew

You were asking about Polywatch on specs lenses. In my experience it's usually the coatings either breaking down or getting scratched. Usually if you remove the coating, the lens underneath will be fine. The stuff you need to remove the coating is Armour Etch (pardon huge Amazon link, but you can get it from craft/hobby places too)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Glass-Etching-Cream-Larger-Bottles/dp/B09DD4P3SX/ref=asc_df_B09DD4P3SX/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=546007914608&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7257550074416433125&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006679&hvtargid=pla-1427463735099&th=1


 
Posted : 27/03/2022 4:53 pm
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Thanks for that midlifecrashes. 👍


 
Posted : 28/03/2022 9:07 am
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There's was an initial "Ooh" from me on first seeing the MoonSwatch. This quickly turned to "Ah..." on seeing the JOMW video. It's plastic tat*, sorry. And overpriced at £200. Brilliant marketing idea though.

*what else are Swatches?


 
Posted : 28/03/2022 10:07 pm
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dmorts has said it for me - the moonswatch range is nothing more than cheap disposable plastic tat being presented as a 'proper' watch but, as launch day showed, there are loads of mug punters out there.
Masterpiece of marketing.


 
Posted : 28/03/2022 11:20 pm
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Any thoughts on the new Tudors? I was hoping for a new Ranger (Explorer equivalent) but the Black Bay Pro looks good as an Explorer II equivalent.


 
Posted : 30/03/2022 12:03 pm
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39mm with a 24h bezel is a bit small for me. My GMT is 41mm and the dial already is as small as I’d want it

agreed very Explorer 2. I’d like to see something more original rather than a Rolex homage. And I’m very much a Tudor fanboy


 
Posted : 30/03/2022 2:40 pm
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I really like the Black Bay Pro, but Hodinkee claim that it is 14.6mm thick, on a 39mm watch I think this is going to feel very thick/ top heavy. The BB58 (I have a BB58 blue and love it) is so wearable because they are only 11.9mm thick. The GMT complication was always going to add thickness, but I think this watch is disappointingly thick.

One cool thing is that the Black Bay Pro comes with a the T-fit bracelet clasp which has an 8mm rapid size-adjustment system. Previously the T-fit system was only available on the BB58 bronze, this is the first time in steel. (Presumably this T-fit would fit BB58 watches as the BB Pro and the BB58 are all 39mm.)


 
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I’m not a Rolex fan by any means, but I’ve just seen this, and it’s probably the only Rolex I’d actually consider, should I find myself in the fortunate position to be able to spend £7k on another watch…

https://luxurylaunches.com/watches/2022-rolex-air-king.php


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 4:03 pm
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It's a quirky one for sure.


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 4:27 pm
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Never liked the new Air King dial.  There seems to be a lot going on.  Shame as the old Air King was a looker, but looks too much like the OP.

Rolex is just crazy now, I always fancied a plain black OP but now even they are unattainable outside the grey market.  No one was interested in them a couple of years back


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 4:44 pm
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It’s plastic tat*, sorry. And overpriced at £200. Brilliant marketing idea though.

It’s perfectly possible to pay that for watches that are little more than marketing over substance, I’ve no doubt at all that those Moonwatches will last for a fair amount of time, it’s more than likely that the movement will pack it in before the case does.

And there’s a historical precedent as well…

Retailed at £125 in 1986, IIRC, my TAG Heuer Series 1000 from the same period was £250. Good ones of these go from between €250 to €750 depending on condition etc. it had a fibreglass case with a steel insert and a quartz movement, and it was designed specifically to to be bright and cheerful to attract a new range of customers, the Formula 1 was very successful. The simple fact that, with ‘smart’ watches being sold to a similar market, yet a similarly priced analogue watch is attracting so much attention should be telling you something. Pretty much what the Formula 1 above told the rather stuffy and staid watch business in the 1980’s.</span>


 
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It’s perfectly possible to pay that for watches that are little more than marketing over substance

Very much so, yes.

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I’m not a Rolex fan by any means, but I’ve just seen this, and it’s probably the only Rolex I’d actually consider, should I find myself in the fortunate position to be able to spend £7k on another watch…

https://luxurylaunches.com/watches/2022-rolex-air-king.php/blockquote >


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 7:31 pm
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Bit of a stick or twist question, should I get my watch fixed or look at a replacement?

Bought a Seiko 4R36-08L0 12 months ago for ~£180 as my old watch was eating batteries each year, but unfortunately dropped it on the laminate last night 😭

Seiko service center likely >£100 and 6-8 week lead time. Any reputable service place recommendations would be great.

Any automatic watch suggestions where the edge of the glass is not proud of the case? Ideally <£200 and not huge, fabric or silicone strap.

https://flic.kr/p/2ncpDoQ


 
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To be honest I'd not personally bother repairing that one, the movement will likely be damaged as well if you dropped it on a floor hard enough to break the crystal.

Not sure on suggestions but most dive style watches will have a bezel slightly higher than the crystal.


 
Posted : 04/04/2022 9:52 am
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@airvent - Think you are right unfortunately, will have a look round at the dive style ones and try to be more careful next time.


 
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As you have nothing to lose, enjoy replacing the crystal. Cousins will have s replacement.


 
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the movement will likely be damaged as well if you dropped it on a floor hard enough to break the crystal

As long as it's still running and keeping good time it's probably fine so I wouldn't necessarily write it off. And unless you're serially clumsy or unlucky I wouldn't worry too much about the crystal being proud of the bezel on any replacement - I've a few watches like that and have never damaged a crystal so I reckon you were just unlucky.


 
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@Wally - Will give it a go. Is there a set way the watch glasses are measured, have a set of analogue Vernier callipers? I have the tools to open watch cases so worth a shot if it’s a few quid etc.

@Johnners - I’m not that clumsy normally honest 😂, my last quartz watch is at 10 years and counting but has a larger bezel around the face that acted as a bit of a buffer.


 
Posted : 04/04/2022 2:33 pm
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https://blog.esslinger.com/how-to-measure-a-watch-crystal-in-the-watch-case/

What model of Seiko is that? You should be able to search by model number for the crystal size


 
Posted : 04/04/2022 2:49 pm
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@murray - It’s a Seiko 4R36-08L0 I think from the back of it.

I will have a scout round, if I need special solvents, glue or extra tools then I would need to weigh the cost vs chance of breaking it.


 
Posted : 04/04/2022 3:28 pm
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I think that's a SRPE53K1 so would be a 32mm crystal - you could even upgrade to sapphire!

https://www.seikomods.com/shop/ct138-srpe-top-hat-sapphire-crystal/


 
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4R36 is the movement I think.


 
Posted : 04/04/2022 11:52 pm
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Cheers guys, thanks for the advice 👍


 
Posted : 05/04/2022 8:18 am
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My heart skipped a beat yesterday as we arrived on hols and I discovered a Breitling box had been left in the safe.

Unfortunately it was empty, I’m assuming the owner was wearing it as they left.


 
Posted : 05/04/2022 8:37 am
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@Kryton, wonder if they’ve bought it where you are and bringing it back to the UK without paying duty?


 
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I suspect not, I’m in Center Parcs.


 
Posted : 05/04/2022 9:01 am
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I replaced the crystal on my Seiko 5, went from domed to flat sapphire. Give it a go


 
Posted : 06/04/2022 1:00 pm
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Has anyone here actually got their hands on a Moonswatch yet?


 
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Was thinking of dropping in to Covent Gdn Swatch to get a moonswatch to flip. Surely no one is actually paying those eBay prices though?


 
Posted : 07/04/2022 10:56 am
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Not available online yet so no.

Are they back in stock at the shops now? You can see the prices ended auctions attracted on eBay, I might take a look and report back.

Between £500 and £750 seem to be typical! 😨


 
Posted : 07/04/2022 12:23 pm
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I have seen people getting positive feedback on Moonswatch sales of £1200 on Ebay. People are just plain crazy. Swatch have even put a notice on the website to say that they are not limited edition and they hope everyone who wants one can get one so they are planning on shifting a lot


 
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I suspect not, I’m in Center Parcs

Lol


 
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My Dievas is the perfect holiday beater. It won't win any beauty contests, but I love the brutally industrial vibe (and I'll never have a Ploprof 😕)


 
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Madness. I almost want one, they've done a good job imo but I'm not a fan of busy chrono faces.


 
Posted : 07/04/2022 2:36 pm
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I finally sold my GS SBGN005 today. It took quite a while despite being the cheapest example in Europe on Chrono24. No regrets on letting it go as a I hardly wore it but mucho paino on the 28.5% loss, and I bought with a 15% discount off rrp!

Oh well, live and learn.


 
Posted : 07/04/2022 7:40 pm
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I fancy a sbga461, I think, but only with a huge discount!


 
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I found and purchased a rather lovely and matching Zuludiver Seasalter for the Chris Ward:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/kryton1957/52000636887/in/dateposted-public/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/kryton1957/52001713643/in/dateposted-public/

Its completed the watch for me.


 
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ooh nice


 
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Kryton, that looks excellent. I love the continuity of strap and face. 🙂


 
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£12k !!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-61077030


 
Posted : 13/04/2022 3:08 pm
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Has anybody got a vintage digital watch from the Swiss manufacturers?

I have this from ca. 1978:

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And this 50th anniversary nod to the Hamilton Pulsar P2 2900

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Kryton, that looks excellent. I love the continuity of strap and face

Thanks, I cannot wait until 6pm 😃

derek, no but Jody JOMW recently reviewed this and I’ve been thinking about it. I was going to get a gold A168 just for digi-kitch reasons but this is more like the Hammy:

https://www.armitron.com/products/the-golden-griffy


 
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Kryton - it is more like the hammy but it's 10x the cost of the other one!


 
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Not with you, which one have you found for $6?


 
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I mean the PSR is 6x dearer than that gold / red one


 
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Indeed, available on Amazon too https://www.amazon.co.uk/Armitron-Sport-Watch-40-8475BBSV/dp/B0933MMM6X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=12DOWPYTF30CR&keywords=armitron%2Bwatch&qid=1649867942&sprefix=Armi%2Caps%2C56&sr=8-1&th=1

and currently cheaper than a 5600 😂


 
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Gents, I have a dilemma

20 years ago I bought a quartz Seamaster after my old man passed away.  Didn't know much about watches then hence it's a quartz.  I have said I'd never sell it, but having seen the prices they are selling for my head has turned a little.

Bearing in mind I think it cost me £700, they're going for around £2200 with boxes and papers.  I have begun to look at it as £2200 towards the £4850 cost of a new Seamaster (I like the white one) with the ceramic dial and co-axial movement, which is a lot more watch.

I'm in two minds whether I will regret this though.  What would you do?


 
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I've also a quartz Seamaster and I can't say I'm really bothered about it not being mechanical. Does mean something to me though as my wife bought it as a gift and only the other day my lad picked it up and wanted to wear it as he thought it was really cool. If you have similar attachments I'd rather keep the quartz, and spend the £2k, you'd need to find to upgrade, on something else.


 
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Do you wear it? Do you think of your dad or other good things when you see it?; if not, flog it but, £2200 ish purchase price ... Money in pocket after sale much less.

Oh and new white dial.... Can still get for £3600 ish in the right places.


 
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Where is the right places where the White Dial can be had for £3600? That’s a big difference.


 
Posted : 15/04/2022 7:26 am
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What would you gain by selling it?

A mechanical watch is not going to tell time time any better. To 99% of the population the watched will look identical.

Why not get it serviced, new crystal and polished up so it looks like new? Won't be cheap, but it will give you the watch with the sentimentality, looks and everything other than the guts.

On the other hand I asked about a new bike on here and some one said nice bikes are nice. I'm 50 out of 130 miles into a ride on a nicer bike. Its a carbon version of the alloy one I was on before.

I'm no faster, probably not any comfier. Its still nice.

Why not get both? 😎 Nice watches are nice. Saving the extra will give you something to look forward to and make the purchase more memorable.


 
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There was a month old unworn one on tz-uk at that price a fortnight ago. Iirc it may not have sold yet, it definitely didn't sell for several days. I was very surprised. Let me go check. Think it may have had an extra strap or something bundled in too.


 
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2 were listed in march.
1. Listed 24th, unworn and still stickered bought from a Boutique early Feb, unsold at £3700, after a week or so it was sold off forum (eBay I think)

2. Mint condition may 21 watch listed early march. With bracelet and omega black rubber strap, £3400 and took 10 days to sell by the look.


 
Posted : 15/04/2022 1:34 pm
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I thought its held sentimental value but it doesn't really and I find I don't wear it as much as I should.

"why not get both?" @tall_martin I just bought a Tudor GMT so don't have the money to buy a new Seamaster straight off.

Sensible head on says don't sell it and wait until I can afford to buy a new one, but I'm impatient once the seed has been sown!


 
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