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Santa's been to Aliexpress
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Posted : 25/12/2020 1:24 pm
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Really Kato? Ooooooo maybe they've updated it... I'll have to check. B of they have then the bronze with the green dial would be hard to resist..... My sumo jade won't like it but... Well....hmmm


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 2:44 pm
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****, you're right, I just checked the rado site, it has now got a screw down crown (steel versions too). That must be an upgrade. It's got 300m wr now.... Fairly sure it was less when it was not a screw down.
I need to find money for that now.... Poo! (In a good way!)

Has it grown in size too? Wasn't it 40mm before? 42mm now.


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 2:53 pm
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Defo screw down and 300m depth rating. Bronze case is £700 more than the stainless case but looks way better. Not value for money though!

It’s a stunner in the flesh. Don’t regret buying my Black Bay but if I hadn’t bought it I’d have bought that Rado. Will have to wait a bit


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 2:54 pm
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What's the bezel? Is it sapphire a la a Bathyscaphe?


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 2:55 pm
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Yeah 42mm. They do a 37mm but not in bronze. The burgundy face is also a looker

Captain cook


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 2:57 pm
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Bezel is ceramic


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 2:58 pm
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I bought myself Mrs RNP chose well for a daily beater tool watch.
49859-D57-190-F-4812-8-D2-D-104-E482-C1953
7-A4948-C4-A7-CB-4794-8-D12-ADDDD7-B2679-A


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 3:18 pm
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That’s a good choice! Very nice indeed. Dial looks very similar to my BB41

BB41


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 3:57 pm
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The burgundy face is also a looker

Impressive but not my taste. Bit too Christmassy. Kind of Santa’s official watch.

Maybe I’m being unfair and it’ll appeal more in June when not everything is done up in red and gold.


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 4:13 pm
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Yes I'm with igm, to red watches don't do it for me. The blue, the black, both gorgeous but I have a pelagos smurf and a black planet Ocean, both keepers. The green is awesome... Tempted!


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 5:12 pm
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@Kato - mmmmm, I like that Tudor! Looks good with a plain leather strap.


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 5:27 pm
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That’s a good choice! Very nice indeed. Dial looks very similar to my BB41

They have been described as a Seiko Blackbay/Explorer homage.


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 5:38 pm
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At the more affordable end of the market, this on a plainer black leather strap would look good on those dressy nights in a Charlie (or a Tux for you English folk)

Simple watch


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 5:41 pm
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Pinched this from the Steinhart website for quickness - but really pleased with it in the flesh 🙂

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Posted : 25/12/2020 7:13 pm
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The red Captain Cook looks a bit much on the matching strap but I reckon it would look great on something more subdued.

I think black and blue dials are the "standard" and once you move away from them the look becomes a bit less formal. However, my green dialled/bezelled Pantor looks great on a bracelet or black rubber strap and a full burgundy Rado would probably be the same - not quite as versatile as the more traditional colours but maybe the better for it.

That Pantor has pretty much become my day to day choice, it's really comfy with the cushion case and surprisingly compact versus the dimensions of it.


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 7:51 pm
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@CountZero it came with a grey camo NATO too, which is an odd choice for the watch and I’ve never used it. Went with the leather as it has 22mm lugs and is a bit dominated by the bracelet. The deployment has ceramic ball bearings like the bracelet clasp does and it’s amazing.


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 10:09 pm
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@Bullet that’s Steinhart is handsome. Looks pretty big, what’s the case size?


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 10:10 pm
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47mm so yes, pretty big but feels good on.


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 10:42 pm
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@Kato - I can see a plain grey NATO or ZULU strap, or other plain colour, perhaps a canvas one, or perhaps one with stripes, but I agree a camo pattern is really odd, although, it does sort of follow pilot-style watches, maybe that was the thinking.
Nice looking, though, and I’ve long had a soft spot for the Tudor snowflake hands


 
Posted : 25/12/2020 10:59 pm
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Another Christmas watch. Think I went for the right colour, it was this or the tomato red one. Surprisingly accurate but the crown is a bit slack. Leather strap is temporary until I can resize the bracelet.


 
Posted : 26/12/2020 10:42 am
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The Nav-B in situ, it's nice and comfortable even though it's pretty huge!

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Posted : 26/12/2020 12:24 pm
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@RustyNissanPrairie I like that. Is it a black dial face or a grey one?


 
Posted : 26/12/2020 8:38 pm
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@RustyNissanPrairie I like that. Is it a black dial face or a grey one?

It's the black one - it wears well @40mm but I have fairly skinny wrists.
I'm really pleased with it.

Cheapest place i found it;
https://www.watchnation.com/product/seiko-5-sports-srpe55k1/


 
Posted : 26/12/2020 9:22 pm
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Anyone looking for a classy, classic watch, Seiko have just re-issued the King Seiko after nearly 50 years:
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/watches/article/king-seiko-ksk-2021
Apparently there was competition between two Seiko factories to produce the best watch, one was the Emperor Seiko, the other the King Seiko, and the Emperor won, as part of Seiko celebrating 140 years of watch production, they’re making a limited edition run of 3000.


 
Posted : 28/12/2020 12:24 pm
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Right, polishing.

Along with the Komanderskie up there, I also got a Dremel for Christmas. I think it, (the watch) might look better with the sides and crown end polished to match the bezel, currently it's completely brushed. Anyone ever done similar? I don't want to arse it up and I don't have a suitable old case to practice on first.


 
Posted : 28/12/2020 4:51 pm
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You want the Burgeon Polishing stick
On amazon here
Dremel is way too aggressive IMO, I have got out scratch marks with careful use of the above. But do watch videos on how to use, there is a definite technique and easy to arse up.


 
Posted : 28/12/2020 6:12 pm
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Thanks Wally, glad I asked. 👍


 
Posted : 28/12/2020 9:14 pm
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@kato - the Tudor camo NATOs are lovely straps though - I have one with my Ranger. I prefer them to leather as they’re just so comfy, but I wear a canvas nato from Steveostraps on it now instead.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 12:59 am
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You want the Burgeon Polishing stick

Not seen those before, Amazon list it along with a glass fibre scratch removal stick as well; would that be for use on cases with a brushed finish instead of polished?


 
Posted : 31/12/2020 12:37 am
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I was tipped off about Pro-Trek F30 being cheap on Sport Pursuit.
£180, down from £450 (rrp, but I'm sure they were selling for about £350 when i was looking last year)
It will be my dog walking watch.


 
Posted : 04/01/2021 5:04 pm
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Bergeon polishing stick update! The sanding and polishing faces work really effectively, but the 'stick' is quite flexible, so if you are using it near any defined edges it sort of wraps around and quite noticeably chamfers them. I had a test on the very end of one lugs where it wouldn't be noticeable.

Think I'll get some 800 and 1200 grit wet and dry and glue it to some of my partners wooden waxing spatulas. Final polish with the dremel, (gingerly).


 
Posted : 04/01/2021 6:40 pm
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A Seiko question....

I have a Seiko 5, about 18months old. Used to run less than 30 seconds fast a day which was more than acceptable, every few days (after realising I arrived early for something!) I'd turn it back a few minutes.

The last couple of weeks I've noticed that it's losing time now, maybe 60seconds a day (which means it's actually slowed by 90secs). I now arrive late to things.

I notice it's got a small adjuster on the back of the mechanism (it's a 7S26C) is it worth opening the back and giving it a very small tweak or am I likely to make things even worse?

It's probably not worth spending out on someone else looking at it, but would like it keep better time.

Cheers


 
Posted : 07/01/2021 12:33 pm
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And just checked... 2 year warranty on Amazon. They're sending me a new one 🙂


 
Posted : 07/01/2021 12:47 pm
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A moot point now, but there are YouTube videos showing you how to regulate watches. It is a case of moving that small adjuster, but there are 2 levers, you have to get the right one.

Do you have to send the old one back? Might be a bit of value in it for someone to modify.


 
Posted : 07/01/2021 2:27 pm
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As above, now a moot point but I'd be a bit concerned if a relatively young 7s26 swung from ~+30 to -60, I'd suspect it'd taken a wallop or been magnetised somehow. If you'd been stuck with it though there'd have been little to be lost by a judicious bit of twiddling.


 
Posted : 07/01/2021 2:36 pm
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Anyone on here got an anOrdain watch?
They're a small Glasgow based brand that specialise in enamel dials.

I was looking for something a bit different as a birthday related keeper (and daily wearer) and came across their Model 2 with the fume dials. The model 2 colours are not quite to my taste for a daily but got in touch and they'll do something different for me which is great.
So far so good with the comms and I'll try and remember to stick an image up once it arrives if I can take a decent one!


 
Posted : 07/01/2021 2:56 pm
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Should I sell a 2003 Rolex Sea Dweller to buy an ebike.


 
Posted : 07/01/2021 3:00 pm
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@johnners & @tthew - thanks but yes a good result 🙂

They do want the old one back, I've re-ordered it and then they refund once the original arrives back with them. There's no obvious signs of knocks (dents, scratches etc) but I do wear it all the time so may have done.


 
Posted : 07/01/2021 7:48 pm
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Should I sell a 2003 Rolex Sea Dweller to buy an ebike.

No.
You could sell it and buy a proper bike, but an eBike? I’d rather have the Rolex.


 
Posted : 07/01/2021 8:05 pm
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Keep the Rolex as it’s a potentially appreciating asset. Buy the ebike on 0% finance.


 
Posted : 07/01/2021 8:15 pm
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@dmorts, just wondering if you got round to purchasing an SKX? I'm in a similar predicament myself after being totally suckered in by this thread over the last few months.

If so, do you mind sharing where you bought from and whether it was a viable experience? I find it strange that the range was discontinued last year (so I understand) but there still seems to lots available brand new, even at a discount on creation.


 
Posted : 09/01/2021 10:38 am
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I bought SKX second hand but they seem to hold their money well. I got what I paid back when I sold it as well

The new King Turtle has got my interest. The Save the Ocean one with the Manta Ray dial looks amazing but the prices of Seiko’s are rapidly climbing up market


 
Posted : 09/01/2021 10:44 am
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Well I’ve finally gone N-1!

Sold my B&R 123 GMT to a friend. I never wore it much as I just use Garmin and very occasionally wear my Submariner 14060M.

Going to fund a new bike for the girlfriend....think that’s good use for the £!


 
Posted : 09/01/2021 10:45 am
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@dan30237 I have an SKX007K1 on order from Creation Watches. They've provided a Royal Mail tracking number but this gives no information so far. It's almost been 2 weeks, but there has been New Year inbetween and the Royal Mail are suffering delays because of Coronavirus.
I paid using PayPal just in case of any issues. Will probably look to chase it up next week with RM.

If there's some issue and I don't end up getting it, I think I'd be happy enough with a SRPE55

Which is what @RustyNissanPrairie has


 
Posted : 09/01/2021 11:27 am
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Does anyone have a vintage Seiko chronograph? These two look great (sourcing, owning and servicing might be a different story)

Jumbo

Panda


 
Posted : 09/01/2021 11:48 am
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I find it strange that the range was discontinued last year (so I understand) but there still seems to lots available brand new, even at a discount on creation.

Just one more watch Jody did a YouTube video the other week because he bought one. He said the prices might start to rise soonish as stock starts to reduce. They made millions though, that's why they are still available.


 
Posted : 09/01/2021 1:23 pm
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The watches on here are all very nice, but...

This is what I wear most days

70 years old this year.

70 years old this year. (the watch, not me.)


 
Posted : 09/01/2021 3:44 pm
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That's a nice old oyster perpetual, doesn't look dated really. Fab


 
Posted : 09/01/2021 6:03 pm
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Tempted by an Islander pilot watch.

islander


 
Posted : 09/01/2021 9:48 pm
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I've bought watches from Long Island Watches before and heard Mark, the owner, on various podcasts etc and he seems a nice enough guy but I can't take to Islander watches for some reason.


 
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Dont know why that image wont show

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Posted : 09/01/2021 11:00 pm
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@bigjohn - I have a similar looking Tudor Oyster Prince that was my grandfather's. 1960s and is a lovely thing, with a really nice patina. The fact that it's smaller than is trendy these days doesn't bother me as I have tiny wrists. Nice watch!


 
Posted : 10/01/2021 1:16 am
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Thought this might be of interest to some on here - £129

There's a modded watches section on their website too

T Watches

T Watches Pilot


 
Posted : 10/01/2021 9:31 am
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Flieger with a date window is no from me. I’d want thermally blued hands as well but I’m fussy


 
Posted : 10/01/2021 10:52 am
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Yes, I like to wear an understated watch, even if it's worth more than my car. Just occasionally somebody will spot it for what it is. Mostly, people think it's my first Ingersoll from big school.


 
Posted : 10/01/2021 1:25 pm
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Does anyone have a vintage Seiko chronograph? These two look great (sourcing, owning and servicing might be a different story)

Owned loads of 6138/9's but now down to zero after recently selling my 6138 Panda. Buying is a minefield as there are so many fake dials etc out there. You can even buy a fake 6138 Bullhead kit with everything minus the genuine movement needed to complete (serial number starts with 6N on all of them from memory). When I was pondering the Panda I found a thread on WUS comparing a fake vs genuine dial but it was only after two pages that it transpired both dials were fake such is the quality of them these days.

Servicing isn't a problem and plenty of watchmakers will work on them, but parts supply of one particular part, the centre chronograph wheel can be a big problem. This part has a spring clutch in it which can fail and Seiko stopped making spares over 30 years ago. If you can find a nos 6139 chrono wheel expect to pay around £100 and twice that for a 6138. if the watch only runs when the chrono is running then walk away. My Panda was a cheap non-runner from Ebay which needed a new chrono wheel. It took me over six months to find one and I had to take a £250 gamble on a complete movement.

They're great watches if you can get a good one, but much due diligence is required.


 
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@chipps i also have a Tudor oyster prince that belonged to my grandfather and has been passed down to my dad and now myself. Have you had it serviced at all? I know it'll differ but looking at getting it done.

With regards to the Seiko Alpinists, what're the big differences between the SARB017 (pre prospex) and the newer SPB117J1 (prospex)?


 
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I did have it serviced when I got it first (in 1992 or something) - though not at a Rolex dealer. The winding stem had corroded, so the guy couldn't replace it with a Rolex part, so I got a plain one instead, which worked fine. A few years ago I found out that ex-MTB journo, Paul Smith had got into Horology and delighted in buying 'broken' Rolexes and fixing them. He took my watch, serviced it and found a correct winder through one of his contacts, so I now have a complete watch.

I can highly recommend David McKane (in Northern Ireland, which might be an issue these days for expensive watch trafficking...) who is a mountain biker and classic Seiko fan. He's done some great work on my watches in the past. DM for details.


 
Posted : 10/01/2021 9:55 pm
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I used to know a windsurfing mate who had a workshop in the jewellery quarter in Birmingham. There are several places there where you can get an excellent service at realistic prices.


 
Posted : 10/01/2021 10:04 pm
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but there are YouTube videos showing you how to regulate watches.

I did my Seiko SPORK because it was gaining quite a lot; my goldsmith mate had a go, but it just went the other way. I bought a caseback opener from Maplins and had a couple of goes, the second time I got it to about ten seconds a week, but more by luck than anything, the adjustment requires very tiny movements of the lever, literally a tiny fraction of a millimetre.
I need to have a go at one of my Heimdallr’s, it’s losing about three minutes a week, I reckon I can improve greatly on that, it’s just getting around to doing it.
Now I’ve had my Heimdallr Tuna fixed, thanks to a gentleman of this parish, I’m not wearing the MM300 tribute, so I’ll get it sorted out.


 
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for all those with watches that have hard to find/replace parts - I have a local watchsmith who will make any missing parts from scratch. I had a Tudor 7928, a watch that many won't go near because the movements are famously hard to service - many places wouldn't touch it. He had it sorted and back to me within two weeks - highly recommended (at 1/3 of the cost that SHWR were quoting). He does a lot of very high-end watches and vintage clocks. He's currently servicing a friend's much beloved Oyster Perpetual.

Drop me a PM if you want his details.


 
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With regards to the Seiko Alpinists, what’re the big differences between the SARB017 (pre prospex) and the newer SPB117J1 (prospex)?

The SSRB017 has a green face on a strap and the SPB117 is a black face on a bracelet, the more relevant comparison is the SPB121 which is a green face on a strap.

The Prospex has the 6R35 which give a (claimed) 20 hour bump in power reserve if the 6r15's 50 hours isn't enough for you. Other than that it has a display case back instead of the old metal with "Alpinist mountain" and a cyclops over white date wheel instead of the no cyclops and a black date wheel on the SARB017. I've not had hands on the new one but I've seen claims of a different diameter which seems a bit improbable, it looks like the exact same upper case to me though the watch is a touch thicker because of the display case. Also I don't think the crown is signed on the new one.

The most significant difference IMO is the price hike - the SPB121 lists in the UK at least £300 more than what you would have paid for a new SARB017 though you should do better if you're prepared to shop around or haggle, they're in good supply now as far as I can tell. It's still a pretty poor value proposition now but that's the direction Seiko seem to be headed in general.


 
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Sold my 666 Sea Dweller. Made a mad amount on it.

Youngest grandson is now blasting ahead of me on a YT capra CF Race

Much better use of the money lol.
Still have the other 2 Rolex tucked away but am cutting about in the Grand Seiko just now. Very classy and looks like it will wear well.

As an aside, all the Grand Seiko for sale (same model, mix or new and used) are all priced a fair bit higher than the price I paid for mine from Chisolm Hunter which bodes well for future values.


 
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@johnners - Thanks for the advice. Really liked the older model (SARB017) but from the information you've provided and from what I've read elsewhere, the newer variant doesn't seem as worth it. Still seem to be a few 'new' SARBs kicking around second hand so to speak.


 
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There is nothing really special about the older SARBs apart from the online worship making everyone want one.It's also the reason they are so faked. Be very careful if you buy one and look for full box and papers (original) and also look at the movement and the dial markers, they are giveaways. (squint 10 & 12)

I think the power reserve has went up on the new one as it uses a slightly better movement but it seems to be more about the face that makes them less desirable.

SARB 033 is the one to try and get in my opinion.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 5:29 pm
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SARB035 with the cream dial is one I’d go for but both are beginning to go for silly money now


 
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I think the power reserve has went up on the new one as it uses a slightly better movement but it seems to be more about the face that makes them less desirable.

On the 2 that are directly comparable there's little difference. I prefer my black date wheel but the new white date wheel with cyclops is definitely a lot clearer. IMO the only significant difference is the price hike.

There is nothing really special about the older SARBs apart from the online worship making everyone want one...
...SARB 033 is the one to try and get in my opinion.

Well, if you want a SARB with a rep pumped up by online worship look no further!


 
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I bought a caseback opener from Maplins and had a couple of goes, the second time I got it to about ten seconds a week, but more by luck than anything, the adjustment requires very tiny movements of the lever, literally a tiny fraction of a millimetre.

Same here. I have done two Vostoks. Arrived from Russia gaining 30-40s a day. Got them both down to under +15s a day. Took one try for the first and two for the second. You need to move it the tiniest possible amount. Then leave overnight to see how it has gone.

Happy with that sort of accuracy with cheap watches where I never set the second hand anyway and don't wear for more than 2 days in a row.


 
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There’s an interesting feature in Flipboard at the moment about military watches, here’s the link for anyone interested...

https://flipboard.com/@gearpatrol/the-ultimate-guide-to-military-watches-onrbkbpss9krdf87?from=share&utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=share

A sub-section of it lists 21 best military watches, and goes into some interesting backgrounds to them, very well worth the read.

https://www.gearpatrol.com/watches/a557312/best-military-watches-and-their-histories/


 
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Any recommendations for a cheap, sort of field watch looking thing? Currently wear a Garmin every day and would like an analogue, simple watch instead. Looking at Timex Scout, so that sort of price, £50. Is it worth stumping up the £20-ish extra for the cheap automatic Seiko?


 
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I've got a practically unworn Timex Mk1 alloy field watch you can have for £40 - great little watch to be fair but it is a bit small for my taste so rarely gets used. It's the bronzey/green time only version as per...


 
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For £50 quartz is the way to go. Timex is good, as is Lorus Lorus watch
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/2535975


 
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Personally if I was after a sub £50 field/military style quartz I'd either snap up that Timex (a coworker has one he wears on occasion) or I'd be skimming eBay for a used Eco drive of some sort perhaps...


 
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Ta, using Amazon vouchers so will pass on that IvanDobsk, but that's a very tempting price and looks good though.


 
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No worries, wasn't too keen on selling it really!


 
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It it were me, I'd be looking at a Seiko 5 of some kind @colonelwax, something like this. It's a couple of quid more but you'll save that in the cost of batteries.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002SSUQFG/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_NyfaGbRX7NJRB


 
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So that Seiko is £75, not much more than the £50 voucher. A Times and a battery or two 🙂 I've never had an automatic - so if I end up not wearing it for a week, obviously it'll stop. But are they happy being left for a bit and then wound again? (sorry, total newb to interesting watches, had a succession of Casios and a Garmin!)


 
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But are they happy being left for a bit and then wound again

Yeah, they're fine. Mine often sit for a week or 2 withiout being used. Just give them a shake when you pick it up again, set the time and off you go.


 
Posted : 14/01/2021 3:20 pm
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@dan30237 The SKX007K1 arrived today from Creation Watches and all good so far. Use the Royal Mail delivery option if you go with them.

One thing to bear in mind with the SKX is that it doesn't hand wind. So you have to wear it to keep it going.


 
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