On a semi-related note.
I have a black tie event and plan to wear my cocktail time which is on Milanese bracelet, should I put it back on the original leather strap?
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My view is that if you are wearing white shirt then yes if it’s a black strap.
Elshalimo, my point alludes to the fact I’m selling a worn 3 times 5610u for £80 posted.
@Saccades - black leather yes, Seiko black leather maybe not.
Was the original Seiko’s normal slightly dodgy quality?
I’ve had some nice simple black leather stuff from WatchGecko - including the £12 on sale strap I’m wearing now (sadly out of stock now I think).
Leather strap - the metal straps draw attention away from the lovely Cocktail Time dials
Talking of straps I have one of these unused which Zuludiver seem reluctant to process a return for:
Happy to send it for £20 posted which less the shipping ZD would charge.
Which width?
Good question 😀 22mm...
@Saccades IMHO on the right arm which is the left arm and keep the bracelet strap 😀
Pic of my 1976 Seiko Bullhead whilst I await delivery of a 1973 Seiko!
That owes an awful lot to the Yema RallyGraf! The two companies were closely linked for a time, and then Seiko took over Yema which became little more than a fashion brand. Yema use Seiko movements in some of their current models, notably a re-issue of the RallyGraf.
There’s enough photos of my Yema here already, I won’t bother putting another up.
This one I haven’t worn in ages, I dug it out of my box of watches and other items of male jewellery, and the battery was practically dead, the second hand was moving once every ten seconds or so. My goldsmith mate has just put a new battery in, and re-lubed the O-ring, but he didn’t bother doing a pressure test; it isn’t going in the water. That cost me nothing, would have cost £20 if he’d done a pressure test. I went into the TAG Heuer shop in Bath and asked them what it would cost; £150…
I have to say it feels and looks tiny compared to the Seiko I’ve been wearing for the last five, going on six months, I barely notice I’ve got it on.
The James Bond strap is appropriate, Timothy Dalton wore one in his first 007 film, and a stainless steel version later in the same film, at a s****y do with a suit.
I had the battery replaced in my old TAG this week. I think it’s about thirty-five years old now and worth more than I paid for it, it was £180 new. It was my first decent watch but seldom worn these days.
Right, looking at alternatives to the BB FF as a daily, how about this Glashutte Original Senator Perp Cal?
Photo is swiped from t'internet. It has some of the Pequignet charm (or rather Pequignet inspired by GO/ALS), but for less money I can get a perpetual calendar in a discreet package. 42 mm case, don't know the wrist size in the piccy.
God no. I mean, it's a nice watch but... well... as a daily? Really? It doesn't look daily, no. No, not for me. Stick to a FF.
Or....I just saw this on the back of a telegraph magazine and thought it nice, Breguet type xx 2057. Too rich for me but, well, it looked nice.
Did they just chuck darts at a mock-up of that dial and where they hit they chucked on a complication?
Everyone's taste is different but you definitely have a knack for choosing things which look like they've fallen from a Christmas cracker.
Another no, all of the complications are randomly way too far from the centre and into the indices, looks wrong.
Why not to daily? Surely a perpetual is exactly the watch to daily! Point in hand, I forgot to advance the date on my Oris ProHarbourPilot this morning!
Because its trying too hard.
Did anyone see antiques roadshow last night? My other half was watching and at the end there was a bloke with a Rolex that was worth £35 k : she was amazed and I wasn't because I've seen the amounts spent on stuff on this thread
Am I prepared to defend my tastes, hell yeah! :😁
Firstly, I am not trying to get one watch to do everything. I have reduced my collection to about eight pieces, and I can cut a few more such that each gets regular, if unequal use. I am looking for a daily watch, with a (at a minimum) day-date function, that is adapted to my needs. Specifically, I am not in a suit and cycle to work etc but want something with a bit of horological interest, dial AND movement side. My Oris serves my practical needs but that red-rotor'd SW200 makes me grimace. I want a 'nicer' watch but it is extremely difficult to fulfil my criteria (I have been looking for well over a year!). There are no end of day-date, or more, complications, but typically in dress watches and/or from extremely expensive houses. The obvious alternative is a chronograph with a 7750 derived movement but... I don't like the feeling of those chronos, as in the actuation sensation. All things being equal, I'd rather have the calendar without the chrono, hence doubts on the BP FF (even if that chrono is very nice but we're talking €2k service costs!). Now, as to dial spacing....
I like a pointer date but I have a very very very strong preference for aperture day and date. For apertures, remember that the read outs typically line up horizontally (there are exceptions, like BP annual calendars). To do that, they either have to match outer edge, like the VC dark dial, or inner edge, like the VC salmon dial. Apertures can be very easily anthropomorphised into eyes, and one wants balanced spacing. As it happens, I find the GO more balanced that the VC dark dial, but also, I cannot afford a €50k white gold trinity dress watch, and wouldn't fancy cycling to work with it in the rain!
Asymmetry... Breguet are the kings of this, and while in most watches my brain naturally searches for symmetry, hence not favouring date-only complications, that 3673 is a symphony of organised chaos (although less keen on pointer day and leap year, obvs). A Lange & Söhne (re)built their name with Lange 1, to near universal acclaim. The double date disk (panoramodatum) is an added complication, especially if the two discs rotate at the same level. I cannot afford an ALS, I do I not like their lugs tbh, nor want precious metals. However, the GO is in steel, shares that same design heritage (being the actual legal successor to the historical ALS), is in a masculine, tough and water resistant package. Is it perfect? Probably not, and I haven't even tried one on (next week for replacement model as this reference is discontinued), but there are not many options for what I am trying to achieve. And I would get to look at this movement, 100-02, during the frequent periods I am bored at work!
The bevels are still mostly machined but there is double-solarisation and crisp Glashütte stripes. I could probably live with that, for a while!
The BP FF is stunning dial side but the movement is a little undersized and dated (mid80s base calibre). The 1315 series from BP are much sexier but they don't have the complications I want. Decisions decisions!!! 🤣
@gaidong Blimey! That list of stuff is a bit more complicated than my 'I quite like that' selection criteria 😁
I am looking for a daily watch, with a (at a minimum) day-date function, that is adapted to my needs. Specifically, I am not in a suit and cycle to work etc but want something with a bit of horological interest, dial AND movement side
Er... SMP? 😀
Er… SMP? 😀
Is the new, default answer... 🙃
Date AND day on the SMP? Can't find one on C24...
@Boblo, and the "I quite like that" is essential. I typically search by adding some core criteria and then just scrolling to see what jumps out. If it doesn't appeal, phase one selection fail!
So this means your now NOT getting the BP FF you were selling the children for, and back to the vision board?
Omega Speedmaster has a Triple Date variant 😀
I haven't given up on the BP FF, just checking if there are any others and the GO popped up. I actually got a bite on my Milgauss last night but I'm very cautious, even with escrow...
Omega triple is quite small and I don't like their chrono sensation, column wheel OR cam #picky
A PP 5396G would work but, you know, money. 38.5m but mostly dial, as opposed to a 39mm Omega 3523.80.00 (which has a 7751 base).
Date AND day
I've only ever needed something/one else tell me what day is it when I've been humungously hungover a couple of times, and those days are far behind me.
@kryton, I need it frequently due to irregular working times and, more importantly, FOUR separate bin collections!!!
Though to be fair, one of those collections is on the last Friday of every month. I am sure a watch could be programmed for that but a custom movement might be extravagant for the efficient throwing away of 'encombrants' (washing machines, sofas etc)!
Also an option but quite thick for the size, and no handfinishing I'm aware of. Not super fond of the 9, 12, 3 - and I say that as a 3, 6, 9 Exp 1 owner!
Gaidong beat me to the JLC Master Calendar
I tried one on in Bangkok last summer (standard model but they had the blue in stock). Nice fit but didn't make me draw breath. Montblanc apertures too close together. BP Villaret is a stunning dial but I'm not keen on the rounded Roman numerals (and very much a dress watch). See, it's not easy being a watch tart!
Maurice LaCroix Phases de Lune? Get the look with a wallet friendly price tag....
That is a long list of wants from the watch. You may have to compromise somewhere.
Rolex skydweller? I saw one in person a few months ago and thought it stunning. Previously from pictures I was mleh.
Skydweller is an annual calendar and would be a super robust daily but has no day function. Only the Daydate does that but $£€s!!! Also, the SD wears very large and the bezel is very.... attention attracting (hence the beauty of the last gen Pt Daydates with smooth bezels, but I don't have €80k or whatever they are!
A PP 5396G would work
Only if being able to actually read the time isn't high on your priorities list.
Most of them are very "more is more" - definitely not for me.
Is the answer a smart watch?
I'm going to go and beat myself with thistles now.
Plus brambles and rattan!!!!
I've sent an offer on my Milgauss to some guy in Belgium. Bloody terrifying.
All a bit too elaborate for my tastes. If Louis XIV had a watch etc... Each to his own and good luck with your search though 'looking for watches' is not what I expected to hear from someone sniffing around Bangkok... 😁
I reckon Louis XIV would be well into Jacob & Co.... !
For the love of God...:
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Having said that, I keep looking at it. Eeeeek...😲
Those fancy pants watches gaidong posted look like expensive homages to gaudy Invicta watches
