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The assumed black/grey Bond NATO as on my watch was actually worn with an Omega by Daniel Craig in 2 of the recent films.

That’s because the grey/black strap was the ‘definitive’ Bond colouring, before the actual colours as shown in the frame above became known, colour definition and clarity just wasn’t good enough to show more than black/grey previous to the remastered BlueRay being released.


 
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AAAAaaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhh!!!! TEMPTATION! Steinhart have a new beauty. ceramic pepsi vintage gmt in 39mm. Elabore grade movement, 710 euro

https://www.steinhar****ches.de/en/ocean-39-vintage-gmt-premium-blue-red-keramik.html


 
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This whole watch game has been getting out of hand recently - kind of spoils the fun to be honest. The nautilus has gone up in value so much so quickly that I hardly feel I can wear it. Likewise my vintage Rolex pieces. I think I’m going to have to shift into other brands to get some fun as the current market obsession for the pieces in my collection has been a bit silly. Looking forward to when the market drops and I can add some more interesting pieces but in the meantime I may try out some of the pieces listed in this thread.


 
Posted : 20/07/2019 11:37 am
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well lucky you! not only have you managed to get some amazing watches at affordable prices,
you make money on them if you sell, and if you bought any of them from an AD you have got quite a relationship and a chance (unlike the rest of us) of getting more.


 
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This whole watch game has been getting out of hand recently – kind of spoils the fun to be honest. The nautilus has gone up in value so much so quickly that I hardly feel I can wear it.

Looks like we have reached peak STW


 
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Looks like we have reached peak STW

LOL


 
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he nautilus has gone up in value so much so quickly that I hardly feel I can wear it. Likewise my vintage Rolex pieces. I think I’m going to have to shift into other brands to get some fun as the current market obsession for the pieces in my collection has been a bit silly.

Hmmm. Currency cock waving at its worst...

I, on the other hand am more than happy with my cheap and cheerful Casio G-Shock 35th anniversary all metal.

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Posted : 20/07/2019 3:48 pm
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Funnily enough, I was just looking at this model today. Quite tempted.


 
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Indeed. I wouldn’t get any sympathy for such a post on the watch forums so I thought I’d try STW. I knew I wouldn’t be disappointed here.


 
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Hmmm. Currency cock waving at its worst…. Best, no?


 
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Ignore tried to link a photo. Failed


 
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Nice reissue Seiko diver here. Note - no price means I probs can't afford one. Tick-tok.


 
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Nice reissue Seiko diver here. Note – no price means I probs can’t afford one.

$5400 to you sir, if you get in quick. Only 1500 on offer globally.
$850 dollars for one the same shape and 95% of the look but without the posh polishing and with a lower calibre. Though pricing over here looks a bit stiff at £800.

Seiko US page here.


 
Posted : 29/07/2019 7:40 pm
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Though pricing over here looks a bit stiff at £800.

Have you seen the exchange rate recently? Sounds about right to me!

Blue bezel version of the cheaper one is nice, probably with a different strap. blue


 
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It's pretty right enough, 2.6mm thinner than the 300m one too. Still something of a lump for my taste though, and I wear an SKX779 more often than anything else!


 
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That Prospex reissue is basically what I’m working towards at the moment, or rather an SKX007 mod with that coin-edged bezel, with ceramic insert with full lume indices, and same style face and hands, but with 3.20 date window, date only, and a stainless Tiger shroud. Ultimately I’ll swap the 7s15 movement for a 6s15 movement, which uses a new material for balance and mainspring, which gives a 70-hour power reserve, and a slight improvement in time accuracy.
First, though, I’ve got to get hold of an SKX007, for a reasonable price. Keeping an eye on several at the moment, let some go because the price went a tad high.
Been fun looking through all the variations of face, hands, bezels and inserts that will fit the 007 series watches, and the combinations that can be made up.


 
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Ultimately I’ll swap the 7s15 movement for a 6s15 movement

7s26 and 6r35, surely? The 6r35's still quite new though, have you seen the bare movement available because having to cannibalise one of the new Prospex line for parts will make your SKX007 very spendy indeed! A 70 hour reserve would be amazing though, particularly for anyone who likes to swap watches on a regular basis.

Been fun looking through all the variations of face, hands, bezels and inserts that will fit the 007 series watches, and the combinations that can be made up.

I had a look after reading your post, I had no idea there was such a bewildering array of bits out there! Good luck finding a 007 at a reasonable price, though given the mods you're considering I guess you could settle for a fairly battered non-runner.


 
Posted : 30/07/2019 8:00 am
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Just collected my new Seiko, very quick delivery and well packaged by the vendor, would recommend

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Has anyone any experience or rate Montine automatics?


 
Posted : 30/07/2019 5:58 pm
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Just collected my new Seiko

I'm more a field/divers watch sort of bloke myself but that looks very classy. What is it, 44mm? Who was the vendor


 
Posted : 30/07/2019 6:18 pm
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40.5mm the vendor was https://www.seiyajapan.com/
Nice fast despatch and he has a lot of diver watches 😉


 
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So, after years of hemming and hawing (?), I’m moving myself a step closer to getting a new (to me) watch. That step being selling a couple of watches. Where do you guys sell (or look to buy) watches? eBay and chrono24 are the places I’m thinking of...


 
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@johnners - yeah, typing slip, it’s a 6r15. I’ve looked at 007 cases, and even a rather battered one cost a bit, and you then need everything in order to build the complete watch, so I’m prepared to wait a bit and find one that isn’t silly money, and then it’s easier to mod it as an ongoing process.
If I get lucky with a reasonably priced 007, then I’d get the movement, face and hands and get the whole lot done in one go, then get the Tiger shroud fitted afterwards.
As you say, there’s a staggering range of bits out there for customising Seiko watches, not limitless, but certainly pretty huge.
And they’re good, reliable watches as well, not a shabby knock-off.


 
Posted : 30/07/2019 9:19 pm
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I gotta say that I know watches are subjective but do you guys really spend c. £800 on a divers watch look?

They just to me at least scream nasty and pointless unless I guess you have intention of diving.

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@tdog - it’s not a ‘look’, as you put it, those watches are designed and made for swimming and diving, and most of the ones discussed are around £250-350.
People buy them and like them because they’re well built, and, unlike some ultra high-end watches with multiple complications, very clear and easy to read quickly in the dark, a point that has been made multiple times.
Which is why I like them, and why I really couldn’t give a shit for your opinion.
For anyone looking for something similar to the Seiko watches, Citizen have just announced a new range of affordable automatic dive watches, just to enrage tdog:

https://gearpatrol.com/2019/07/30/citizen-promaster-automatic-diver-fugu-ny009-watches/


 
Posted : 30/07/2019 10:52 pm
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40.5mm the vendor was https://www.seiyajapan.com/
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That's a great size for a more "classic" style, I blame the angle for my poor guess! Also, sir has a rather slender wrist...

do you guys really spend c. £800 on a divers watch look?

Well, I don't really have the money for that kind of outlay so I wouldn't, and if I had £800 knocking about to spend on a watch I'd probably get more pleasure from a couple of £400 pieces rather than a single more expensive one, unless it was something I was particularly taken with. If you really accept that watches are subjective then surely you could stretch to other people not finding the diver's watch look "nasty and pointless"?


 
Posted : 30/07/2019 11:06 pm
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It was also a genuine question so excuse me whilst your attack on me goes un noticed like your wig blowing out of view just that of tumbleweed.


 
Posted : 30/07/2019 11:50 pm
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I get the fact that some divers watches are well built even at same “time” look real cheap tacky pos to look at.

But yeah each to their own-that’s for sure!


 
Posted : 30/07/2019 11:52 pm
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Oh, and this thread, was all so nice and friendly. 😞


 
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Well let’s keep it that way. Tdog has form across the forum, so don’t feed it.

The SNZF017 I bought and posted a page or so back was £157. Regardless of what others think I like it, and it can’t be all bad because I’ve had an average of one a week comments as to how good looking it is.  We all have our own opinion and taste.


 
Posted : 31/07/2019 7:43 am
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I’ve looked at 007 cases, and even a rather battered one cost a bit, and you then need everything in order to build the complete watch, so I’m prepared to wait a bit and find one that isn’t silly money, and then it’s easier to mod it as an ongoing process.
If I get lucky with a reasonably priced 007, then I’d get the movement, face and hands and get the whole lot done in one go, then get the Tiger shroud fitted afterwards.
As you say, there’s a staggering range of bits out there for customising Seiko watches, not limitless, but certainly pretty huge.
And they’re good, reliable watches as well, not a shabby knock-off.

Sounds expensive. £100-£150 for a s/h SKX, a new movement and crown/stem to suit, different dial, hands and insert, sapphire glass and then £150 getting the case machined and you're well into genuine Tuna money. The TST mod is great if you want an auto movement in a 300m style Tuna case which was why I bought a s/h TST'd 6309 case a few years ago, but even though mine was built with as many genuine parts as possible (SBBN007 dial, SKX hands and insert) I couldn't get past it trying to be something it wasn't so soon sold it at what would have been a 50% loss had I paid retail and bought the real thing in the shape of an SBBN015.

If you're not bothered about the cost and just want to build something unique then by all means go for it as the options are virtually limitless. I have an SKX that owes me over £350 so I'm not averse to a Seiko mod but machining the case and fitting a Tuna style shroud is a mod too far imho.


 
Posted : 31/07/2019 3:45 pm
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We all have our own opinion and taste

Exactly! Wow you cottoned on quickly to my query over divers watches.

I did look back at countzeros watch and although liked the face colour just a huge grin came all over me.


 
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If you’re not bothered about the cost and just want to build something unique then by all means go for it as the options are virtually limitless. I have an SKX that owes me over £350 so I’m not averse to a Seiko mod but machining the case and fitting a Tuna style shroud is a mod too far imho.

Well, that’s exactly the point, to arrive at something that has features that a genuine Tuna wouldn’t have, and probably for less outlay, but meanwhile I can wear the watch as it develops.

I did look back at countzeros watch and although liked the face colour just a huge grin came all over me.

Yeah? Which one would that be, ‘cos I think I’ve posted up at least three, and IIRC, very early on, I posted a photo with five or six different watches of mine, so please, feel free to enlighten us, as only two are actual dive watches...


 
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i tried on a blue Pelagos yesterday and ooooo, that is nice. I like it much more thn the blue new SMP i tried on last week, i was really disappointed in that.


 
Posted : 31/07/2019 11:41 pm
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@CountZero, don't acknowledge tdog, it'll just derail the thread onto bickering.


 
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Hamilton 6B - what do you think?
In a shop window near me.1967.


 
Posted : 01/08/2019 6:04 am
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Nice, someone put some photos of a similar one on page 2 or 3 which was their dad's old service watch. Simple, clear design. How much are they asking?


 
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2K, which is why it’s staying in window. Lovely though.


 
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Hamilton 6B – what do you think?

They're a classic, fairly simple dial and nice proportions if bit small for a pilot's watch by current standards. All in all though not really anything particularly special. I've seen some (IMO) ridiculous money being asked for them, was there a price on it?

Edit - 2k? I rest my case! I must say they look very easy to fake...


 
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Yay, 1000.

Anyway, for £2k my personal opinion is the modern Hamilton's look better if you're having one to wear, not to collect.


 
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Agree with Kryton, if its a collectable or if you are ex RAF, then maybe its a decent buy. But personally for day to day watches, I'd say there is better out there for the money.
But as you know, watches are very personal. Some people look at one of my watches and think its butt ugly, but sometimes a watch resonates with you and you have to have it!


 
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I like the Khaki but you'd have to be wanting Hamilton on the dial - there really are any number of watch makers that do that "Field" look equally well for a fraction of the price.


 
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I love Seiko divers. The iconic look and the they are sensible money.
You also have lots to chose from with the limited runs and different versions/types.

Stick a nato on and they look really nice with an easy change when my mood changes (I swap different Nato's each week)

These are my current 2 favs that I alternate between. A modified SKX007 and an uber cool limited SRPC49. The SRPC currently has a bright orange nato on and it looks the nuts.!

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Seiko Diver does get most wear, but this week out comes.
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Worn 24/7 Small 38.5mm Titanium. ladies wrists.


 
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Bought my birthday present to myself today, Fortis Flieger Pilot Chronograph.

proper pictures when it arrives.


 
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I really fancy the white faced, orange hands version of that Omega. Maybe one day when the second hand prices have moderated a bit.


 
Posted : 03/08/2019 7:31 am
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Well, I’ve just pushed the button on an ex-shop display SKX007 from Australia for £160.
Which ties in nicely with the £160 I was given for being the taxi service for my g/f’s sister, picking her and her daughter up from Heathrow and taking them down to Salisbury, then doing the reverse in a couple of weeks. It’ll only cost me about £50 in fuel, so I thought it’ll be my birthday pressy to myself, as I was 65 in July.
I’ve missed three or four auctions when they’ve gone over £170, this was a buy it now, so I couldn’t resist it!
I’ll start collecting the bits I need to customise it over time (!), the most important bit will be the upgrade hackable 6r15 movement, but there’s no rush, and I can wear it as soon as it arrives.
I will swap the rubber strap for a heavyweight ZULU strap, though, an orange one, I think. 😁


 
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This is the one I’ve just bought:


 
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Damn this thread, I thought it was about time I bought myself a reasonable watch and I'm now ploughing slowly through the previous pages. Turns out it's a minefield! Fancy an automatic of some description and under £250.

Found a couple of Seikos that I quite like and Tissot so far. Actually I've found loads, but it's the Seikos I keep going back to. Need to go and actually look at some in the flesh I think 🙂


 
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That's not a bad price for a SKX. You could probably flog the bits you are removing and fund some of the parts needed for your mods.


 
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As an aside, I needed an new leather strap for my moonphase Speedmaster, which is something like £300 for the omega alligator strap.

I took a punt on this ebay strap for £14.50 to see what it was like and it is really decent, not sure you would really tell the difference from looking at the outside, it is nicely finished and has the bulk of the original strap.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Croco-Leather-Strap-Band-fit-OMEGA-watches-19mm-20mm-22mm-Deployment-Clasp/273827399698?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=573547352501&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

It has Omega printed on the inside but also 'Genuine Leather' so is not an attempt to closely copy the original, unlike this one which I might try next :

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323878481543?ViewItem=&item=323878481543

I'll probably have to put the original back on when it goes in for a service though.


 
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Fancy an automatic of some description and under £250.

only a little over your budget is the new timefactors precista :

https://www.timefactors.com/prs45.htm

£265 or £310 for a bracelet.


 
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only a little over your budget is the new timefactors precista

A quick Google suggests that's a mecaquartz movement so not really an "automatic of some description".


 
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I've got a Seiko Sumo SBDc001/SBDc031 to move on if anybody is interested? I seem to have purchased two further watches....


 
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Fancy an automatic of some description and under £250.

The Spinnaker Bradner looks like a nice watch in that budget. Gets a good review from Jody at 'Just One More Watch' on YouTube.

I think you can also get a 20% discount code from JOMW


 
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Big up the SKX massif!
Love mine... Got a few, orginals and modified. Great watches.
Stick a nato strap on (22mm) and they look even better in my opinion and as nato's are quite cheap it makes the watch fresh each week when you alternate straps..


 
Posted : 07/08/2019 7:42 pm
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I was helping my mother move house today when I spotted this. She’d bought it in a charity shop for £1.


 
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I was helping my mother move house today when I spotted this. She’d bought it in a charity shop for £1.

I'll give her £2 for it. She'll be doubling her money, can't say fairer than that.


 
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I was helping my mother move house today when I spotted this. She’d bought it in a charity shop for £1.

If that's genuine it's a belting charity shop purchase 🙂


 
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I'm just going to leave this link to a new range of Seiko 5s here:

Shiny precious thingses...


 
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This Citizen is about a third the price of that Hamilton, and is probably of similar quality...

That charity shop find - 😳
A Breitling with those complications? That’s a very nice find!


 
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No idea if it's genuine or not yet but it seemed to have all the right markings.


 
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Was given this rather unexpectedly for my 40th:

Hublot Automatic

Trying to figure out if it's genuine or not. Chronograph works as I think it should, and the guy who gave it me is a VERY high roller in the world of shipping, so it's possible. He just said "I haven't got you anything for your birthday yet. Here, have this" and took it off his wrist. Any ideas how to check?


 
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Utube video of legit? one very similar but different.
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Any ideas how to check?

Whip the back off* and have a look at the movement. If there's a battery in there it's a fake...

*Apparently it should have a skeleton back so you shouldn't have to whip the back off. Still shouldn't have a battery though!

Jomashop have it here for a bargain 28% off, making it a mere $11,520


 
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I’m just going to leave this link to a new range of Seiko 5s here:

Shiny precious thingses…

Hmm, too uniform across the range IMHO.  But, thats made my SNZF017 a classic if it wasn't already - I'd better hang on to it. 🙂


 
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What's the difference in the Seiko 5 models and the Prospex divers? Seems that the form and function overlap completely, whereas the other ranges fall neatly into different categories such as dress watches, high quality, the solar range....


 
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What’s the difference in the Seiko 5 models and the Prospex divers?

The 5 is a Seiko's budget mechanical range, almost all have 7s26/7s36 movements so not hacking or hand windable, but more importantly where they're dive watch "inspired" they're typically only WR to 100m at best. There are dozens of 5s and they come in all sorts not just dive styles, there's dress, field, pilot, you name it.
Prospex is sort of Seiko's mid-range, with a significant quality step up. Better finishing, better movements, better WR (often actually dive certified), and often with sapphire instead of Hardlex. Again though, Prospex covers all styles, not just dive.


 
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Thanks johnners, nice summary.


 
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The Flying OX differences I can spot are
1) Your left 2nd dial is 20/40/60 and it should be 10/20/30.
2) You have an extra Geneve and it should not below the Hublot.
3) Your date dial is white and the original is black.
4) Yours has swiss made not aligned perfectly central either side of 6 with too large a font and the original places the swiss and made perfectly central either side.
5) That crystal edge is too crude.
6) Cannot comment on the graphite weave pattern - your pic shows none and it should be there.

Hope this helps. ( I know a Wally who spent 1.2K on a fake (well re-dialed) watch in a bricks and mortar shop - fortunately he got money back after a nervous bank holiday weekend waiting for shop to open)

Lots of them about


 
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Had never opened this thread before.
I thought I was being flashy spending £100 on a watch once!


 
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The Breitling is also fake i'm afraid - biggest tell is the lack of the 2nd pusher to start/stop the chronograph. It should have 2 pushers.


 
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Cheers Plyphon there is actually a gap there where it looks like the pusher has fallen off, of course doesn't mean it's genuine.


 
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I’m just going to leave this link to a new range of Seiko 5s here:

Shiny precious thingses…

Hmm, too uniform across the range IMHO. But, thats made my SNZF017 a classic if it wasn’t already – I’d better hang on to it. 🙂

As a range I agree but there are a few nice ones in there - very tempted by the black and red.


 
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I've enjoyed following this thread and seeing the variety of watches that have come up. I've been fortunate over the years to have been given a Vintage Tudor Oyster (dated 1963) and Omega Seamaster Automatic (dated 1995), while I have a Quartz TAG and Garmin Forerunner for daily use. I have my eye on a couple of other watches for daily wear but I doubt I could convince my wife I need another watch....

Anyway my main reason for posting is given the expertise / knowledge on this thread, the Omega needs some TLC, so does anyone have any recommendations on where to send it other than back to Omega for a service / repair? It needs a new main spring and I'd like a new bezel as this is marked any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance.


 
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Hmm, too uniform across the range IMHO

I might be wrong but it looks like it's just the one case style, they're just mixing up the type of strap and dial/bezel colours, with a couple of ion-plate looking finishes chucked in. Very Casio of them! I do like the update of the "5" logo, and it looks like they're all 4r36 so hacking and hand winding.


 
Posted : 08/08/2019 6:43 pm
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carbis, Swiss Time Services in Essex.
Swiss Time Services

I walked in off the street and it’s a professional set up in a small retail park. Not cheap, but they will do a proper job and if you are clear (or can pop in) you can keep costs down and even get the main guy to open it up and give you a ball park quote. Really nice people iMO. I understand this is where all the shops send their watches to from far and wide. So you are cutting out their cut.


 
Posted : 08/08/2019 8:35 pm
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