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I say yes the mrs says no , they look haloweenish.
Your average trick or treater (4-10yrs) will probably prefer more 'normal' treats.
It's a NO from me.
For kids, I would say no. Imagine the ram a handful of them in, oh on 2nd thoughts its a great idea.
Handful of rabbit droppings.
That'll learn 'em.
How proficient are you at cleaning raw egg off of windows and / or your car?
didn't somebody do razor blades in apples once? or was that a film storyline and urban myth?
More people should dish out Wasabi nuts, it might put a stop to the scourge of beggars going door-to-door.
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£20 notes for the poor old oiks
nut allergy risk and way too hot for most kids
Nip out to the shops now, buy a massive load of ferrero rocher, and a bag of sprouts. Decant the rocher into your face, then wrap up the sprouts in the empty wrappers ready for handing out as treats (tricks).
Job done
Toffee Onions.
Those kids need to know that toffee apples are not the only option.
Or just ignore the annoying little darlings knocking at the door
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I take it none of miserable gits went trick or treating yourself then?? 🙄
Yeah it's a laugh especially in less affluent areas where old and vulnerable people are too scared to answer the door at this time of year.
And why should we be expected to provide sugary snacks to random strangers? The whole thing is pathetic
Can't stand Halloween but no to the Wasabi nuts. Recipe for trouble.
You lot really are a ray of sunshine aren't you 😉
its always good to teach the kids how to make demands with menaces under a thinly veiled guise of tradition.
You can get wasabi peas 🙂
Simple around me. If you're open for trick and treater's, put a pumpkin outside, or a picture of a pumpkin in the window, or go the whole hog and decorate the porch with skellingtons and fake cobwebs as our american friends up the road do.
If you aren't, don't, and we'll leave you alone.
It's not extorting sweets under threat of menace, it's kids having fun. Did you lot hit adulthood without passing through this stage?
Did you lot hit adulthood without passing through this stage?
Yup (seems I'm in a majority here too).
Got some chilli's dipped in chocolate left in the cuppboard.......
Sprouts and toffee onions, have neither the time not dedication to do either for tonight, but they both just made me laugh, a lot 🙂
shame you cant buy those tasty delights as easily as the heavily marketed seasonal sweets on sale at the moment. I'd quite like the idea of trick sweets for the punters tonight.
Whilst I dont like the commercialism and the concept, it does get the kids out and about.
I can't recall when trick or treat hit Yorkshire but it was way past my childhood I do think it is fun if you are prepared. Very embarrassing if you are a single bloke with no idea of the date and open the door to a perfectly made up wicked witch 3 foot high and say "Fuxk me that's scary" then see two aghast dotting parents in the gloom behind.
theotherjonv +1
Bunch of miserable gits. 😀
People witter on about the breakdown of community then don't join in with nice community events for kids. 🙄
Simple around me. If you're open for trick and treater's, put a pumpkin outside, or a picture of a pumpkin in the window, or go the whole hog and decorate the porch with skellingtons and fake cobwebs as our american friends up the road do.
Same round our way.. it's a very effective system..
There's little enough fun and festivity in this dour little kingdom and with sour-faced fun police to contend with, it's no wonder some of the kids are revolting..
It's crap. Bring back penny/pound for the guy.
I like it, great to see groups of small kids wandering around the neighbourhood really enjoying themselves.
Although the sprouts and toffee onions are a thing of genius 🙂
It's crap. Bring back penny/pound for the guy.
Has it gone away? I never got the memo don't think kids around here did too.
We did it as kids yes the retail industry now sees it as a money maker but that's retail for you. Got sweets in, got decorations in and others are in the garage ready to be out out. My kids are heading out tonight.
You can buy super sour sweets at a good sweet shop, the very very sour ones not the normal sour ones, they'd be a good trick with the odd one dropped in a random bag.
Mrs Wombat has made me remove my "Caution, Ebola Virus" sign from the sweet jar....apparently it's not in good taste (whatever that is)
I take it none of miserable gits went trick or treating yourself then??
Nope, it didn't exist in my childhood other than in American films and TV. We did penny for the guy which is more passive begging.
It's never really sat well with me, I'm afraid.
It's good that kids get to do something a bit different and have some fun, and I can totally get behind rewarding them for going to a lot of effort in making costumes.
But Trick or Treat makes me uncomfortable for two reasons.
1) is that we spend 364 days of the year telling kids not to accept sweets from strangers, then on Halloween we encourage them to do it. Mixed messages, what are they supposed to believe?
2) The premise of Trick or Treat is "give us a treat or we'll play a trick on you." I really don't think that teaching kids that extortion is a great way of getting free stuff is a particularly healthy life lesson.
I like the concept of it, I just wish we could package it up a bit differently to remove the implied threat. Penny for the Guy is a similar thing, but it's presented as "hey, look how much work we've put in to making a scarecrow." (Ok, the central theme is burning a man alive, but hey, he was a bad man, right?)
1) It doesn't, kids get that.
2) Kids like to have fun playing harmless tricks is good fun, still is an adult.
Wasabi nuts are a great idea if you want to have your car wing mirrors ripped off, windows egged, dog turds put thru your letterbox.
Go for it!
It didn't really exist in our part of cumbria when I was growing up so never did it.
People witter on about the breakdown of community then don't join in with nice community events for kids.
That's quite easy to say from in some areas* but in Woodhouse, Leeds where I've lived previously, we used to get people spitting through letterboxes, firing fireworks at the house or launching eggs at you if you said you didn't have anything, there was even an incident where one of the kids threatened someone on our street through the window with a breadknife. I can think feeling some animosity towards it under those circumstances is pretty understandable.
*last year I didn't realise what the date was and answered the door to some trick or treaters and when I said I had no goodies they apologised and offered me some of theirs. Wylam's a bit different.
when the kids were properly young we only used to T or T our immediate neighbours, and used to go round the day before to give them sweets and prompt them to say how scared they were 😉
The older folk loved it, seeing kids having fun in a non-threatening way. Granted, i live in the affluent south east so there aren't gangs of feral kids roaming the streets extorting sweets with threats of menace - but if that's a serious issue in other areas, I'd suggest it's more a problem of parenting and society in general than the fault of a one night a year 'harmless' bit of (overcommercialised) fun.
Why oh why can't parents just force their kids to stay inside or at very least scuttle under a rock when I, in my cloak of Righteous Self Importance, stride through the neighbourhood. As for knocking at my door do they NOT KNOW I've got the box set of Downton Abbey to re-watch?
I personally can't believe that children enjoying themselves is any kind of justification for the rampant commercialism and cynical exploitation of my not inconsiderable middle age middle class resources by FORCING ME LITERALLY AT GUN POINT to buy some sweets.
It's an OUTRAGE!!!!!!
Nope, it didn't exist in my childhood other than in American films and TV.
Existed in my childhood. "Guising" in Scotland is a tradition that goes back to at least 1895 according to wiki.
The American influence is really just the "Trick or Treat" part which, round here at least, is just a phrase. The kids would be properly confused if you answered "Erm... Trick please" 😉
As an aside,
I was in ASDA the other day, and some of the staff were made up in Halloween gear.
Announcement came over the PA, "Good afternoon shoppers. If you're looking for ideas for horror masks for Halloween this year, why not check out our staff!" I had to go for a sit down.
Nope, it didn't exist in my childhood other than in American films and TV.
Existed in my childhood. "Guising" in Scotland is a tradition that goes back to at least 1895 according to wiki. And celebrating All Hallows Eve goes back much further with its roots in Paganism.
The American influence is really just the "Trick or Treat" part which, round here at least, is just a phrase. The kids would be properly confused if you answered "Erm... Trick please" 😉
My kids are well prepared for that. Anyone asking for a trick will be forced to endure one of my jokes.
Once word gets out, they expect a bumper harvest of treats.
it was alwyas mischief night up here with no sweets and a turnip instead of a pumpkin - which smelt bad.
I'd say we've moved forward.
It's become far too commercial and american nowadays. No one seems to recall why we celebrate the day anyway,
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allhallowtide
stabiliser - you're missing the point entirely. If you want to join the merriment that's fine but you should not be vilified if you do not want to. Some of the self-righteous people above are doing this, yourself included.
Terrible use of CAPS lock too.
Existed in my childhood. "Guising" in Scotland is a tradition that goes back to at least 1895 according to wiki.
Some things are particular to different parts of the country, I doubt I saw my first trick or treater until I was in my mid/late twenties (some time in the mid 1990's).
You know this thread has a sense of déjà vuis about it.
No, you're miserable gits.
The only reason ou don't want to 'join the merriment' is so you can crow about it. Like the OP wanting to 'join inthe merriment' by spoiling it for the kids by giving them wasabi nuts rather than sweets. EDIT not necessarily the OP reading back but the kill joys further down the thread.
AANND YOU THOoouught THAT^ WaS BADDD?
stabiliser - you're missing the point entirely. If you want to join the merriment that's fine but you should not be vilified if you do not want to. Some of the self-righteous people above are doing this, yourself included.
Only in response to the accusations of begging, oiks harassing frightened pensioners with threat of extortion and menace. Response is maybe a bit OTT but you lot started it 😉
Like i said, if you don't want to play, don't put a pumpkin in the window. Or actively, put up a sign saying no trick or treaters please. I won't think any less of you for it, nor will i brandish a breadknife at your window in response. If that happens, it's not a problem of halloween, it's a societal problem in general.
PCSO's will be out tonight I'm sure. I hope they enjoy my costume......
. If that happens, it's not a problem of halloween, it's a societal problem in general.
Undoubtedly true, however also a totally rational reason to dislike trick or treating.
Lemonysam... Was that South Wylam? Doesn't sound like it could have been West Wylam!
Wasabi peas removes the potential nut allergy issues. 🙂
Have you checked the veracity of this with jivehoney?(Ok, the central theme is burning a man alive, but hey, he was a bad man, right?)
On another note - I'll be out riding tonight so they can knock on my door all they want. My kids' are at their mums this year - for the first Halloween in I don't know how long!
One kid last year came round my house and googled jokes on her phone, didn't know whether to compliment or condem.
FWIW - I do think it is a good way to get to know the kids in the neighbourhood so you know which ones to tell your kids to not invite back to the house. 😆
Undoubtedly true, however also a totally rational reason to dislike trick or treating.
Not rational at all. It's like hating all cyclist as one time one of them was rude to you.
Not rational at all. It's like hating all cyclist as one time one of them was rude to you.
Poor analogy, you're confusing something that happened once with the normality of halloween in some people's experience.
If you hated cyclists because 90% of them were rude to you and were threatening to you then that would be closer.
90% I sense some drama queen going on.
90% I sense some drama queen going on.
Then you'd be wrong and insulting, that is what halloween was like in that place and time.
I'm not against it, quite like Halloween infact, but it should be an opt in event. They always turn up just as little Bagstard finally drops off to sleep, then the dog starts barking...
Then you'd be wrong and insulting, that is what halloween was like in that place and time.
But it's fair to say Wylam has a better Trick or Treater, one that doesn't fit in with stereotyping that they'll all will throw an egg.
2) Kids like to have fun playing harmless tricks is good fun
Got any examples of harmless tricks? When I was at school hedges would get toilet rolled, houses egged, cars egged, flour all over the place, stuff through the letterbox...
Harmless then.
Did you lot hit adulthood without passing through this stage?
I certainly did. There was no such thing when I were a lad. We had "mischevious night". No treats demanded or given, just gates nicked and burning newspapers shoved up drainpipes. Proper tradition, none of this effete American nonsense.
if you want to have your car wing mirrors ripped off, windows egged, dog turds put thru your letterbox.
So it's extortion or the threat of criminal damage? This is exactly the problem it's gone far from being something harmless or a little bit silly, to something that depending on your vehicle it's going to be a big bill.
Existed in my childhood. "Guising" in Scotland is a tradition that goes back to at least 1895 according to wiki.
Aye, but guising was different - you were expected to entertain to earn your treat (tell jokes, sing a song, whatever). Much better vibe than "trick or treat".
When the pubs used to kick out at lunchtime we used to set up our penny for the guy outside a pub in harlesden.
All the inebriated ex pats of the Emerald Isle would unload the entire shrapnel content of there pockets before wandering off. I never had it so good.
The wife's American and she's not mad keen for it but does enjoy it. I have never been visited by trick or treaters though, not once in 26 years. Which is a shame, because unlike some of the grumpy old farts up there I'd give them something.
I have an inlaw who posts up facts about the history of Halloween on facebook every day as a sort of Halloween advent calendar and some of it is actually pretty interesting.
I've had to usher the kids away for a few hours.
It's my next door neighbours funeral this afternoon, bless him.
Thoroughly lovely old man.
I don't think the sight of a mini grim reaper would go down to well as the funeral party depart.... 😐
I blame Charlie Brown. It's an Americanism and a modern thing. Didn't exist in my day. Penny for the Guy was a public thing. Asking at doors was seen as bloody scrounging. The only exception was carol singing. Used to make a fortune that way. Well several quid which was a lot in the early 70's.
So if you have a pumpkin in the window, this means you are cool with trick or treating? Genuinely never heard of that. Is that a regional or US thing or what?
It's certainly become convention around our way. A pumpkin means trick or treaters welcome. Obviously if you put up a sign saying no trick or treaters that's clear too and will be respected (admittedly, we live in a nice part of the world with lots of young families)
If there isn't a pumpkin (real or a picture) or a NO! sign - then we won't be calling. There are plenty who are happy to take guests that you don't need to test out the maybes.
I love lemonysam's complaints about woodhouse Leeds, 364 nights of the year the risk is teenagers with jumpers pulled over their faces or balaclavas demanding your phone and cash but he complains about the one night when the risk is their younger siblings in fancy dress wanting sweets..... or cash ....or your phone .
I love lemonysam's complaints about woodhouse Leeds, 364 nights of the year the risk is teenagers with jumpers pulled over their faces or balaclavas demanding your phone and cash but he complains about the one night when the risk is their younger siblings in fancy dress wanting sweets..... or cash ....or your phone .
Have to say, by and large we didn't find woodhouse too bad - lived there for 5 years and massively preferred it to Hyde Park. The difference with halloween* was that they came to your door as opposed to you having to leave the house to feel like you were going to get mugged.
*Actually, carol singing was even worse.
I seem to remember the main problem in hyde park was that about a month either side of bonfire night the local kids would just chuck fireworks around the place almost constantly (including once through a mate's letterbox).
How old are the folk who say it didn't exist when they were kids? I'm 38 and it existed when I were a lad, in Leicester any how.
We usually get a few young kids trick or treating usually with an adult in tow, and we'll have a pumkin in the window to show we're game and a bowl full of mini packets of haribo. If I get a couple of 14 year olds wearing tracksuits with no attempt at dressing up they get nothing. Same with carol singers if they sing they get goodies if they mumble and don't know the words I tell them to come back when they've learnt them. They rarely come back.
I think it is too commercial nowadays but the kids like it and that has to be a good thing.
So cheer up misery guts and stop by the co-op on the way home and pick up some goodies, you get to eat the ones you don't give away!!
My heart sinks every year I see Tescos et al rammed with overpriced trick or treat tat.
Per some of the other older Scots above we had Guising - something you practiced for weeks in advance with an instrument or a poem, or a story. And you were expected to be able to deliver it. Crap 10 second jokes didnt cut it back then ;-)We'd make or at least help with the costumes and our old boys would dutifully hack out a Turnip.
Completely spoiled now for the kids imo.
Per some of the other older Scots above we had Guising - something you practiced for weeks in advance with an instrument or a poem, or a story. And you were expected to be able to deliver it.
That does sounds like a much better tradition than the American trick or treat thing.
Completely spoiled now for the kids imo.
Oh yes really spoilt. We have pumpkins outside, a ghostly figure thing that we've hung up for the last 8 years with a sign too. I've hung fake cobwebs on over the outside door, my kids are getting dressed soon to go out, we have a big bowl of sweet for the visitors to our house. Yeah totally spoiled for them.
I'm off to work soon so I'll miss it all anyway,
Yeah. It's much better now than when I was a nipper.
As above, it was turnip carving and guising when I was a boy. No pumpkins or trick or treating I think until the 80s/90s, probably the same time as American tv became popular.
Do they still dook for apples these days?

