Spot in Hora. If it doesn't look right or feel right then it's likely to not be right.
Glad she's ok OP.
My sister fit spiked once. Either that or she willingly necked some pills. She wouldn't shut up, stay still or stop gurning....
People do, occasionally, take one-off and strange reactions to alcohol. I'm afraid the whole "my drink was spiked" thing has become a bit of a cop-out for some folk.
Doesn't stop you being concerned for them. As pointed out above alcohol on its own can kill.
Just glad she's ok.
She wouldn't shut up, stay still or stop gurning....
Just like alcohol then?
She had shots of what?
Drink spiking seems unlikely. What is likely is that they've given her alcohol that wasn't legit. IE, fake alcohol. They often sell fake spirits, made with methanol. Usually given to someone when they're already drunk, usually in cocktails where the flavour is masked by other things.
Get to the docs and get checked out. Now.
http://www.bangkoknightlife.com/bangkok-bar-fly1/fake-booze-can-really-tell/
Ahh... she all good.... phew.
It could have been booze, like I said, but she was a different drunk to anything I've ever seen from her before. Hard to explain but just not herself. No gurning or otherwise obvious signs of another drug although, whilst I've worked as a bar manager and 'experimented' with stuff at uni, none of it would have been the kind of stuff you'd spike a drink with so not too sure as to what the effects of them are.
It may well have been bad drink ie. methanol. That certainly happens here.
Yep, Songkran's in full flow and if she'd come back that plastered I'd have been annoyed but sat up with her and not posted here. There was just something off.
She's been in bed all day and was quite frightened and upset due to the absolute blackout in her memory. That's never happened to her before. Friends said she went from 'mildly tipsy' but dancing and having a good time in the last bar to falling off the taxi seat into the footwell 10 minutes later. She'd only had a single bottle of beer in the 30 minutes before leaving for the taxi.
Could have been any number of things. Happily nothing more than a bruised knee.
She needs to make cold beer history.
Definitely sounds like a drink spike, as I said earlier, I can drink with the best of them, and my experience was unlike any other alcohol related escapade.. If you know her well and know what she's like when she's had far too many, then you just know.. It's not like being drunk at all, more like being gassed at the dentist.
I had four dodgy pints last night 8)
If you think the drink was spiked it probably was.
It probably wasn't.
Spiking may happen but it's not as common as people think.
Yup.
If a drink is spiked, the most common thing to spike it with is alcohol. Drink spiking, anywhere in the world, is rare.
Definitely sounds like a drink spike, as I said earlier,
Definitely sounds like she was drunk.
Just deducting from what the OP said, he's been around a bit, as have I, and apparently his Mrs can hold her drink.. On balance, that's my opinion, and yours is yours.
Thailand is probably rather different, but in the UK we had a real vogue for people coming in and saying they'd been spiked when they really hadn't. They'd just not counted one or two drinks, or eaten less, or been tired to start with.then mysteriously it seemed to stop happening a year or so back.
So in the UK I'd be agreeing with Drac and his wider professional experience.
+1 for unlikely to have been spiked, though the hooky booze theory does seem credible
The only people I know who've been spiked also happened to have to explain their hospitalisation to concerned parents. Which is an interesting co-incidence, eh?
Hope she's recovered now anyway.
+1 for unlikely to have been spiked, though the hooky booze theory does seem credible
There've been reports in the UK media about increasing incidents of hooky booze, particularly vodka, which is pretty taste and odourless, so fairly easy to get away with it, so that's a credible answer in this case.
It's possible hookie booze in Thailand but that is a relevant new thing here, claims of being spiked ain't and incidents like this happened before people jumped on the spiked band wagon. People forget how much they've had, time scales get forgotten. You here several versions of the history from their friends.
It can happen yes but it's very much more likely they're just rat arsed. We hear the old "they can handle their drink with the best of them" every time, it gets tedious.
I think drink spiking is a bit of an urban myth. I'm sure it happens occasionally but nowhere near as much as the media scare stories make out. They make it sound like there's a rapey fella with a bottle of rohypnol lurking in every bar. More than likely just dodgy booze, or just maybe... she had a few more than she said she did.
Is it just me or is Drac a bit of a bulging cock end when it comes to anything to do with medicine/drugs/alcohol etc?
Seems to me he just has to have his big mouth heard.
Classy!
It's just you I think. Emergency responder medical professionals tend to have a better handle on such things than your average whiny Internet cockbag, but I can see how it might appear to the rest of us ignoramuses as arrogance.
Perhaps but if you actually read his opinions then I think I am pretty much on the mark.
I'm sure you do. That's the thing with opinions, really.
I agree. This is my opinion.
It's just you. Maybe, of course, you actually have more experience of the matter at hand that you'd like to share with us?
FFS. Let actual people who deal with this day in and day out have an actual say, especially when they run the flipping site you are posting on. Especially when you actually financially add diddily squat.
To put it another way,
Wah wah Moderator solidarity aside, I'd hold Drac's medical knowledge, experience and expertise higher than most other folks' I know on or off this forum (and my mother's a pharmacist). If he comes across the wrong way, well bollocks, he's earned the right to be so IHMO.
(Oh look, opinions again)
I don't doubt that there are people at work who think I'm a cocksure arrogant dickwad; but I've spent a quarter of a century earning the right to be a cocksure arrogant dickwad.
Lets just ask Drak about paracetamol and its ani-inflammatory properties then ehh?
My ports do come across blunt but actually avoid medical threads generally. Occasionally though I will give some input more so when there's bad advice
Dear God you're a bitter man.
Pint of Landlord, thanks.
Not at all but you ****ed me off yesterday by calling me down being the professional you are but then the advice you gave wasn't entirely correct was it?
Sorry it's a northerner club we have McKewand Export.
Christ on a bike.
Do you want to come back when you're sober?
I'm out.
You mean you didn't win? Tough.
Wally. I like the irony of your post.
What are those that have been spiked actually spiked with???
Well.
What are those that have been spiked actually spiked with???
Vimto. Horrible stuff.
Johnson, deadmale, Mr mysterious, your history indicates you never respond to an actual bike forum thread, you do realise why this forum exists for you to post on?
No irony, don't bite the hand that feeds you.
Having spent a weekend actually on bikes with other bikers somewhere remote, in a BnB, discussing bikes,ladies and food in that order, goodnight.
I had two mates that we strongly suspect had their drinks spiked at XLs in Brum on two separate occasions. Whatever it was, it wasn't rohypnol - rather than being drowsy, they were hyper and hallucinating. On both occasions I took them home (I'm teetotal, so was always the designated driver!), the one spent hours giggling and chasing invisible frogs across the floor, the other spent the entire journey home cowering and crying because there were 'things' trying to break in through the car windows. They've never reacted like that to anything before, or since (and neither were drug takers!)
And how come it's always the people who [i]don't want[/i] to be spiked that get spiked? A lot of people would be glad of the free drugs...
[quote=Cougar ]Do you want to come back when you're sober?
Is it possible his drink has been spiked?
Im more concerned that johndoh's drinks have been spiked
OK firstly glad your missus is better
Secondly I have experience of "mates" who have had a colourful substance and drink past, in all of this time "they" only really describe complete amnesia when mixing benzos with alcohol
Yes, Ive been utterly wellied occasionally and often remember doing something stupid on Ebay several hours after waking up but complete amnesia with alcohol alone is very unusual in my opinion
Cheers
The reason you have amensia with alcohol is your brain doesn't function enough to make memories. I pretty much always remember everything after a night out but the odd occasion I have big blanks.
"And how come it's always the people who don't want to be spiked that get spiked? A lot of people would be glad of the free drugs..."
If you're not mentally anticipating/prepared for the effects, then it could be extremely disturbing and terrifying for the victim. Especially with powerful hallucinogenic drugs; the effects are totally unpredictable and it's really not good for anyone with anxiety/depression/mental health issues to take such drugs, especially if they're not in a 'safe' environment. I've seen a normally happy contented person take LSD then descend into a 24-hour paranoid delusional craze. Spiking someone with such drugs is ****ing evil/incredibly stupid.
Spiking with Roofies/'date-rape' type drugs does happen. People, especially women, need to be careful.
