<h2>Protect your gear and keep it organised with fully waterproof, colour-coded dry bags for inside your pack.</h2>
Keeping all of your gear organised and protected is a concern wherever you are and whatever you're doing.
Osprey's ultralight and tough drysacks are made from siliconised ripstop nylon, so you can trust them to keep your kit protected and visible even in the darkest depths of your pack, and let you colour-code your contents for even quicker access.
They're equipped with a fully waterproof roll-top closure, coated fabric and taped seams that keep whatever's inside dry no matter how wet your pack gets.
Unlike other drysacks they are rectangular, which makes for more efficient packing and means that they can stand unsupported when removed from your backpack.
What are you waiting for.... make sure your gear is protected!
- High visibility, with reflective graphic print
- Fully waterproof roll-top closure
- Fully waterproof coated fabric and seams
- Rectangular shape for efficient packing
- Weight: 0.02 kg
- Maximum dimensions: (mm) 220 (l) x 160 (w) x 80 (d)
My italics, not theirs.
Expecting it do for more than one ride what the previous one did for several years doesn't seem unreasonable.
Aye for a company with 214millions worth of turn over their bottom line was 214000 after expenses tax and interest deductions.....
Pretty sure a John Lewis style no quibble refund policy could wipe them out
Shop at discount outdoor shop get discount service.
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<h4>Wear and Tear/ Accidental Damage</h4>
Problems arising from abrasions, holes, cuts, tears, burns, animal attacks and the pack being dropped or dragged are not covered. We may, however, be able to repair this kind of damage by patching or darning where possible at a reasonable cost."
Ospreys own policy says no as well.
I’m making a fair assumption that the OP is now wishing he hadn’t started the thread after the bickering on all but the first 1.5 pages...
At £8 I’d move on. But, to take some of the parallel examples, if I took a load of rubble to the tip in my new car (within the load capacity of the vehicle) then whether it was a sub 10k car or an RS6, I would be upset if this resulted in a hole in the bodywork.
If you dumped 1/4 ton of bricks directly in the boot, then drove to the tip like you were in a stage of world rally cross, would you be upset if the interior was ruined and some of the glass had smashed? Would that be your fault, or Audi's for selling you the wrong car?
If you dumped 1/4 ton of bricks directly in the boot, then drove to the tip like you were in a stage of world rally cross, would you be upset if the interior was ruined and some of the glass had smashed? Would that be your fault, or Audi’s for selling you the wrong car?
Did you fold the seats down? just wondering where your strawman is sitting?
Clothes have zips and other stuff ... and ripstop should mean something more durable than a plastic bag.
I might not expect it to last 6 years with the odd tool in it or in the same bag but I'd expect more than one ride
Did you fold the seats down? just wondering where your strawman is sitting?
Next to Sue, the Straw lady.
The loss of a customer with wildly unrealistic expectations is no bad thing.
I blame the OP for taking NO for an answer.
In his situation I would have ..... Sent in the wife.
She's brilliant for things like this. She has no shame and just does not accept the sales person's argument. She is like a dog with a bone and will repeat her argument again and again until the shop employee finally caves in. I swear most of the time they let her have her way just to get rid of her.
TBH ... I've been embarrassed by this in the past and make myself scarce. But next time I'm going stand right beside her with a knowing smile on my face.
I'm missing what's unrealistic expectations...
It's a dry bag.... you stick stuff in it to keep dry.
This one is 'ultra-light' ... so I'd expect it to perhaps be less tough than my 20yr old polythene one.. but I wouldn't expect to have to baby it... surely that's not unreasonable to expect technology has moved on and it can do the same job but it's lighter?
I expect reasonably to put stuff in a rucksack with a few exceptions being stuff like a knife or fork or single tent pegs..be they inside the dry bag or outside I don't think I should need to wrap my pump or multi-tool as my 20yr slightly heavier one never required this.
If it requires treating with kid gloves then it should really say so...
Ironically, being quite a high end brand, Osprey also make a nice Tool Roll that saves your tools from damaging the fabric of your bag
Much as a nice tool roll is "nice" ... I'm not really in "is necessary" .. It will protect the inside proofing on a bag as well... but I don't expect putting my pump or folded multitool in without a protective roll should completely wreck a dry bag or rucksack.
If you dumped 1/4 ton of bricks directly in the boot, then drove to the tip like you were in a stage of world rally cross, would you be upset if the interior was ruined and some of the glass had smashed? Would that be your fault, or Audi’s for selling you the wrong car?
Well as the WRX is on circuits, not stages, you're clearly very confused.
But I reckon you'd have to try really hard all the same to smash a window without putting the car on its side or crashing, even if you were emulating the WRC. And you'd be just as likely to smash your own head with a brick.
"https://whopperduffel.com/how-does-a-dry-bag-work-keeping-everything-safe-and-dry/"
Guide to picking your dry bag.
To ensure the maximum protection, it is important to use the right kind of dry bag. If intend to protect your cameras and other gadgets, a waterproof pouch is ideal.
If you want to you keep you<span style="text-decoration: underline;">r extra clothes and towel dry, a lightweight dry</span> bag is recommended.
<h3>PVC DRY BAGS.</h3>
PVC dry bags are the sturdiest, deniest kind of dry bag. It is made of ultimately durable PVC <span style="text-decoration: underline;">that makes it very waterproof and strong</span>. It can withstand forces and does not rip.
*Bloody forum..... seems like its a test - anyone that can do a proper formatted post on here gets the tech editors job !
Is this what goes for a decent argument on here now?
FFS.
Bring back Junky and Jamba I miss them.*
*Other argumentative ****ers are available. 🙂
But I reckon you’d have to try really hard all the same to smash a window without putting the car on its side or crashing, even if you were emulating the WRC. And you’d be just as likely to smash your own head with a brick.
Why don't you give it a go and report back, then we will have some hard evidence to go on.
If you dumped 1/4 ton of bricks directly in the boot, then drove to the tip
You'd be an idiot, because you have to pay for dumping that sort of stuff now. Just WRX it down your nearest country lane and dump it in a farmer's gateway. Along with some bin bags full of shite and a washing machine, probably.
Not sure if that clarifies though.
Still, the OPs attempt to smear the staff with casual sexism was ignored...
Still, the OPs attempt to smear the staff with casual sexism was ignored…
If people had figured this out earlier i wonder if they would of been so quick to stick the boot in?
"If people had figured this out earlier i wonder if they would of been so quick to stick the boot in?"
is it relevant to the item being used for the wrong purpose?
I swear most of the time they let her have her way just to get rid of her.
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is it relevant to the item being used for the wrong purpose
It is also not relevant to the OP deserving a refund but that was not what i was asking.
Do "extra clothes and towel" now constitute "all of your gear"? If that's all they think it is suitable for the description needs updating!
If people had figured this out earlier i wonder if they would of been so quick to stick the boot in?
Why would it make a difference ?
I spotted that the OP May have been a female (or at least had a male partner)
(or possibly a female partner called Jon)
I didn’t really see any of that as relevant though 👍
Do “extra clothes and towel” now constitute “all of your gear”? If that’s all they think it is suitable for the description needs updating!
Yeah, they don't even specifically tell you not to put a scalpel in it.
Indeed . Bricks would come under that generic term for stuff but that doesn't make it a good idea.
anyone that can do a proper formatted post on here
Talk about unrealistic expectations 😆
Yeah, they don’t even specifically tell you not to put a scalpel in it.
It's not a question of scalpels or what's in the dry bag vs outside but in the rucksack.
I'd want to put a phone charger plug or car and house keys attached to my electronic car key somewhere dry... I might even own some of those new fangled clothes with zips...
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I’d want to put a phone charger plug or car and house keys attached to my electronic car key somewhere dry… I might even own some of those new fangled clothes with zips…"
well to be on the safe side you might want to stick those items into a dry bag designed for such as perhaps a pvc /tarpaulin one as oppose to a light weight one. be a bit of a bollocks if your car keys got wet.
well to be on the safe side you might want to stick those items into a dry bag designed for such as perhaps a pvc /tarpaulin one as oppose to a light weight one. be a bit of a bollocks if your car keys got wet.
Zip-lock plastic bags work fine... but I'd still be pissed if I bought a dry bag and had to pack everything that REALLY needs keeping dry separately... and wrap everything else up.(both inside or outside).. it's defeated the purpose for me which is having loads of separate bags.
I'm not fussed about my multitool or my pump getting damp but having to put it into a bag to protect a dry bag even when these are outside the dry bag just defeats the purpose of a bag to keep stuff dry. I mightest well just use a load of plastic bags...
Holy shit, 5 pages.
Holy shit, 5 pages.
Makes me feel all nostalgic
Zip-lock plastic bags work fine… but I’d still be pissed if I bought a dry bag and had to pack everything that REALLY needs keeping dry separately… and wrap everything else up.(both inside or outside).. it’s defeated the purpose for me which is having loads of separate bags.
That's why you buy a suitably tough dry bag. Not a lightweight one.
The light one would be fine if the contents were wrapped in something. It doesn't take a genius to figue this out. I have no idea how some people on here have actually managed to make it through life.
That’s why you buy a suitably tough dry bag. Not a lightweight one.
What about one that claims to be tough and lightweight? Sounds perfect.
What about one that claims to be tough and lightweight? Sounds perfect.
Tough ≠ indestructible.
The old one wasn't indestructible, it only lasted a few years, she's not complaining about that one, seems a reasonable about of time for it to last. One that claims to be tough and is used in the same way should last a similar amount of time, or at least more than one ride
"What about one that claims to be tough and lightweight? Sounds perfect"
or ambitious.
https://www.alpkit.com/products/airlok-xtra-3-litre
now id have been pissed if it was this one that wore through in a single ride - now if we notice it doesnt claim to be lightweight.
The light one would be fine if the contents were wrapped in something. It doesn’t take a genius to figue this out. I have no idea how some people on here have actually managed to make it through life.
By becoming armchair experts in consumer law apparently.
What about one that claims to be tough and lightweight? Sounds perfect.
Yes it does. 'Tough' on it's own doesn't really mean anything. 'Suitably tough' however means it is fit for purpose :-).
One that claims to be tough and is used in the same way should last a similar amount of time
Not if we take into account that the OP has actually [b]Seen[/b] both of them.
I will bet they aren’t the same.
As I said earlier, I have one of the Osprey Ultralight ones like the OP is complaining about. They are virtually see through, and no thicker than cling film!
It really is is [b]obvious[/b] they won’t handle heavy metal stuff bouncing around against the fabric.
“Tough” in comparison to other Ultralight dry bags maybe, but unless this was bought, and used, blind. Then I can’t see how the OP genuinely thought it was going to be “tough” in the general sense of the word.
One that claims to be tough and is used in the same way should last a similar amount of time, or at least more than one ride
I think that if you're daft enough to leave metal objects rattling around it, you get what you deserve.
“Tough” in comparison to other Ultralight dry bags maybe, but unless this was bought, and used, blind. Then I can’t see how the OP genuinely thought it was going to be “tough” in the general sense of the word.
I've not seen the bag in the flesh but I'd expect it to be as tough as a kids balloon or some catering grade cling film, both of which I'd expect to hold a folded multitool or leatherman.
Even perhaps I'd expect it to be "as tough" as a cheap hydration sack or a soup saver type bag... I'd be expecting to be able to put a pump in the bag without wrapping the pump up in protective wrapping... and take it out and put it back...
I'm not talking carrying spare spokes or an open tool, tent pegs or a fork ... just everyday cycling or walking stuff... or clothes with a zip*... etc.
*I mention this due to the recent purchase of some 'trail shorts' ... which were advertised as lightweight...
The first time I wore them the zip tab broke in the back pocket just sitting on it.. before I even got to the trail.. that was just sitting in the car. I guess strictly speaking they are not designed to be work sat in a car or sitting in a chair... Funkier probably "presume" you have some liners and and take them off at lunch time to sit down to prevent damaging them and they are not designed to be worn in a car so my expectations are unrealistic (based on the comments on this thread)?
Perhaps they are just meant to be carried in a nice protective waterproof bag not actually worn though with all the broken zip tabs I fear they would wreck this bag in minutes?
I’ve not seen the bag in the flesh but I’d expect it to be as tough as a kids balloon or some catering grade cling film, both of which I’d expect to hold a folded multitool or leatherman.
I'd expect neither of those materials to be tough enough not to get damaged while containing metal items being repeatedly jiggled about in a backpack.
The first time I wore them the zip tab broke in the back pocket just sitting on it.. before I even got to the trail.. that was just sitting in the car. I guess strictly speaking they are not designed to be work sat in a car or sitting in a chair… Funkier probably “presume” you have some liners and and take them off at lunch time to sit down to prevent damaging them and they are not designed to be worn in a car so my expectations are unrealistic (based on the comments on this thread)?
**Stares blankly** What a fantastic analogy. No, I think being able to sit in a pair of shorts withiout the zip breaking is a reasonable expectation. Unfortunately it has nothing to do with the OP's magic dry bag.
