The death of poorly trained and equipped conscripts is a tragedy but is one of Russia's own making.
Conscripts are a massive part of normal military life in the Russian Federation. They have a cadre of trained personnel who aren't expected to serve "abroad" during conscription and can be drafted in the event of mobilisation
The difference with the invasion of Ukraine is that conscripts have been involved from day one and mobilisation came later, by which time they needed more conscripts.
We know that they're now untrained and ill-equipped kids but they represent the RF and as such...
There is a theory that the untrained tranche will hold the frontline in a slow-moving winter war while more comprehensively trained conscripts will follow in the Spring for a new offensive. The reality is that conscripts are dying in huge numbers, partly because they don't have more experienced soldiers to learn even the basics from
That’s 5min I’ll never get back, don’t waste your time 👎
He seems to think they’re still as capable as they was when he was working for the Reagan (I think) administration.
The death of poorly trained and equipped conscripts is a tragedy but is one of Russia’s own making.
Conscripts are a massive part of normal military life in the Russian Federation. They have a cadre of trained personnel who aren’t expected to serve “abroad” during conscription and can be drafted in the event of mobilization
The difference with the invasion of Ukraine is that conscripts have been involved from day one and mobilization came later, by which time they needed more conscripts.
We know that they’re now untrained and ill-equipped kids but they represent the RF and as such…
There is a theory that the untrained tranche will hold the front line in a slow-moving winter war while more comprehensively trained conscripts will follow in the Spring for a new offensive. The reality is that conscripts are dying in huge numbers, partly because they don’t have more experienced soldiers to learn even the basics from.
This is very true, but we have to remember that Ukraine is also putting poorly trained soldiers into the field. They had a law from the start that men weren't allowed to leave with their families as refugees and had to stay and fight the aggressor.
We've seen plenty of vids early int he conflict, of pretty much locals manning the barricades as a militia force, unfortunately many of those have been killed.
I think for the US its a minimum of 10 weeks, and the UK it's 14 weeks training.
Although its nearly impossible to know casualty figures at this stage, it appears from more reputable sources the UN etc, that the Ukrainian death toll is about as high as Russia's.
And this conflict is far from over. We might end up with many hundreds of thousands dead on both sides.
What a waste of life.
and the UK it’s 14 weeks training.
28 Weeks for Infantry in the UK. You'd then have any specialist training depending on unit (mounted/jumps/etc) afterwards, also maybe readiness workups as required depending on Brigade.
If anyone wants a different take on proceedings there this
That’s 5min I’ll never get back, don’t waste your time
He gives away his stance in these comments:
"The Western whore media"
"The Western presstitutes"
Moon of Alabama is, and always has been, a very pro Russian site.
Just because the Ukrainians are fighting for the good doesn’t mean they are holier than holy. The Ukrainian’s opened fire, and even if it was to defend against this lone Russian, there was certainly no reason to kill the Russians lying unarmed and defenseless on the ground.
The Russians were lying right in front of a Ukrainian machine gun. Another Russian opened fire on the Ukrainians. The machine gunner returned fire. All the Russians in front of the machine gun were killed. The Ukrainians had no way of knowing whether the Russians on the ground were part of the trap or not, having been fooled once, they had no obligation to put themselves at risk again.
Launching an attack under the pretense of surrender is a war crime. The fault in this case lies entirely with the Russians.
After that stunt the Russian soldier pulled last week, when he opened fire on Ukrainian soldiers trying to accept a Russian surrender
Launching an attack under the pretense of surrender is a war crime. The fault in this case lies entirely with the Russians
AIUI this is uncorrobrated video. It was widely trumpeted by Russian media and Telegram channels
Why do you think that Russia would advertise an incident, open to interpretation, where fault lies entirely with the Russians?
If Russia shines a spotlight into a dark corner it's because they don't want you looking in the other corners.
By repeatedly returning to this you are perpetuating the Russian narrative, which IMHO is to avoid the public examination of their refusal to allow access to POWs and their apalling treatment of conscripts and POWS as reported by the UN.
Please let investigators investigate
Why do you think that Russia would advertise an incident where fault lies entirely with the Russians?
Russia has been boasting of their war crimes right from the beginning. In the Russian narrative, Ukrainians are sub-human drug-addicted Nazis who deserve to be tortured and raped. Boasting about inflicting war crimes on Ukrainians boosts support among the militaristic groups in Russia. It makes no difference to them whether a Russian committed a war crime in this instance, they will reject any facts that don't suit them.
SAAB and Boeing have been developing a hybrid rocket-bomb since 2019
It's now ready for production and is ideal for Ukraine in that it uses existing components that are well-stocked. The bomb has been in use since 2006 and is proven, as is the rocket motor, and it doesn't need a special launch platform. This will take a lot of supply pressure off western allies
150km range, capable of striking with incredible accuracy ("radius of a car tire (sic)") and a similar warhead weight to GMRLS (as used with HIMARS, etc) https://www.saab.com/products/ground-launched-small-diameter-bomb-glsdb
It hasn't been confirmed, but “We are imminently, shortly expecting contracts on that,” Saab president and CEO Micael Johansson https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/saab-expects-first-contract-soon-for-new-glsdb-artillery-weapon
SAAB has a strong military background with everything from aircraft to anti-tank weapons in their inventory
"Nov 27 (Reuters) - Exports of Ukraine's grain will not reach 3 million tonnes in November as Russia tries to limit ship inspections at ports"
Inspections have dropped from 40 per day to around 8
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/ukraine-sees-less-than-3-mln-tonnes-grain-leaving-november-minister-2022-11-27/
150km range, capable of striking with incredible accuracy (“radius of a car tire
So if I had one here in Cardiff, I could hit say, a specific wheely bin in Swindon.
So if I had one here in Cardiff, I could hit say, a specific wheely bin in Swindon
Let it go man. Let it go.
I could hit say, a specific wheely bin in Swindon
Yes, wheally. Don't bother opening the lid
If the bomb component could be replaced by a basic container then I could see this being a great development for Evri.
I could hit say, a specific wheely bin in Swindon
Please note there is a "Wheelie Free" zone behind the Nationwide... Trash Free Trails etc etc
150km range is a game changer!
150km range is a game changer!
It would make a big difference, but unless I've missed something, there's nothing to suggest Ukraine is getting that Saab/Boeing munition? I hope they do, but seeing as there has been so much western resistance to Ukraine getting ATACAMS and other long range systems, I can see some blocks being put on that. Hope I'm wrong.
This has been covered today in the Torygraph, so is hitting the MSM, which would indicate that there is some credibility to these claims
Ooh, I'd not seen that. Hope it happens.
How can a Russian warship be deployed to the Black Sea when no Russian warship can get through the Bosphorus? Surely it must have been there all along?
ETA the headline from that Telegraph rolling news page in case it changes:
Warship carrying Kalibr missiles deployed to Black Sea as Russia 'prepares fresh attacks'
Theres more than on sea east of the Bosphorus and linked to the Black Sea
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_of_Azov
How can a Russian warship be deployed to the Black Sea when no Russian warship can get through the Bosphorus? Surely it must have been there all along?
Russian port of Stevastopol in crimea? if you zoom in on google maps satelite view theres a few military ships there.
These are deffinatley not commercial vessles https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/44%C2%B03 7'24.8%22N+33%C2%B033'18.1%22E/@44.6231025,33.5559323,275m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x3a134cf8bd3d856!8m2!3d44.6235445!4d33.555017
Another article on small diameter bombs
If the bomb component could be replaced by a basic container then I could see this being a great development for Evri.
It would certainly remove the need for a calling card to say "I left it in the shed" when your shed looks like:
I see you're a racist now father?
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1597267755660894208?s=20&t=f9QeYni0bvLGmKaRMWT3lQ
How can a Russian warship be deployed to the Black Sea when no Russian warship can get through the Bosphorus?
AIUI in peacetime you can navigate warships with notification to Turkiye
In wartime only those registered to Black Sea bases can navigate, Turkiye has sent many RF vessels the long way around since February
Montreux Convention 1936... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Straits
Turkiye has sent many RF vessels the long way around since February
What's the long way round?
What’s the long way round?
The Med fleet navigate via the N. Atlantic to St Petersburg and Vladivostock. Refits, resupply of Syrian garrison and annual navy days
They really should be negotiating now. Any gains made by Ukraine will come at such a high cost.
Thay are still stealing children. Would you talk to state sponsored kidnapping regimens?
They really should be negotiating now. Any gains made by Ukraine will come at such a high cost.
Negotiating what, exactly? Given the losses, damage and war crimes committed so far, any further losses really aren't an issue, at national level (tragic at a human level, obviously)
They really should be negotiating now. Any gains made by Ukraine will come at such a high cost.
That's up to Ukraine without pressure from outside, but I can't see it happening any time soon. Based on past experience, any promises Russia makes in negotiations would be worthless. They would only use it to rearm and reorg before attacking again. If you watch any of the Russian media monitoring videos by Julia Davis on youtube, you will see a constant barrage of genocidal talk denying the right of Ukraine to even exist unless it's part of Russia. They acknowledge the rapes and atrocities and in some cases call for more. They have a pathological hatred of the 'hohols' for having the temerity to resist the warm embrace of mother Russia. Russia won't stop until Ukraine is completely subjugated, unless they get a proper bloody nose and dose of humiliation at the hands of Ukraine along the way. IMO that is happening and will continue to do so.
Negotiating for peace. UK didn't move when Russia was where they are now in 2014 (Donbas). So why continue to support Ukraine? It's costing an utter fortune, for what benefit?
Negotiating for peace.
Which will involve Ukraine ceding more of their sovereign territory. Why should they? It would reward and encourage territorial land grabs by an authoritarian regime. Where next? Poland? Estonia? Lithuania? Should they just roll over and negotiate away their territory too?
UK didn’t move when Russia was where they are now in 2014 (Donbas).
We should have, not doing so was a mistake which emboldened Putin. We have learnt that lesson
So why continue to support Ukraine? It’s costing an utter fortune, for what benefit?
To prevent a belligerent pariah state in Europe from rebuilding an empire it believes is it's by right. By invading it's democratic neighbours. Russia will destabilise the whole of Europe for years to come if they get away with this. It's in our own self interest to help Ukraine, as well as being the right thing to do morally IMO.
I honestly don't understand how anyone can look at the mass graves in Kherson, Bucha and elsewhere, the deliberate destruction of hospitals and schools, the kidnapping of children, torture and rape, Wagner scum sledgehammering people to death and say the victims should negotiate with the culprits. Especially when they still have the means and the will to fight back and expel them.
are now in 2014 (Donbas). So why continue to support Ukraine?
That's exactly the point, the world did nothing when Russia annexed Donbass & Crimea, believing their lies that they wouldn't attack again...
And here we are
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1597005533760073729?t=ocYSUCo1vjWv0HGaP7CVVA&s=19
They really should be negotiating now. Any gains made by Ukraine will come at such a high cost.
That’s up to Ukraine without pressure from outside, but I can’t see it happening any time soon. Based on past experience, any promises Russia makes in negotiations would be worthless. They would only use it to rearm and reorg before attacking again.
Exactly. It's Ukraine's decision whether or not to negotiate. There is absolutely no evidence that Russia is ready to enter into negotiations in good faith anyway, they will just play for time to rearm before renewing their attacks. Honestly, why would anybody trust any promises that Russia makes?
Well said, bloke...
What’s the long way round?
The Med fleet navigate via the N. Atlantic to St Petersburg and Vladivostock. Refits, resupply of Syrian garrison and annual navy days
Ah, I thought you meant a long way round into the Black Sea.
It’s costing an utter fortune, for what benefit?
To demonstrate to one UN member state that it cannot invade another UN member state with impunity. Something which ought to be blindingly obvious and pretty much Rule #1.
To demonstrate to one UN member state that it cannot invade another UN member state with impunity. Something which ought to be blindingly obvious and pretty much Rule #1.
Yep, it's this, basically.
+Another 1 to what Bloke said
There are no good options if you're holding out for one, even if Russia packs up and leaves there'll be a festering sore of resentment that will poison Russian politics and Rus-Uke relations for decades. But neither side is anywhere near a place where the politics have changed enough to force some sort of settlement. Ukraine is still fighting to exist, and arguably so is Putin.
UK didn’t move when Russia was where they are now in 2014 (Donbas).
Not even slightly accurate. One example: In Feb 2015 the UK launched Op. Orbital which had trained 22000 Ukrainian personnel by the time of the 2022 invasion with trainers from the UK army, navy and air force.
In 2022 it morphed into the UK-led multi-national Op. Interflex that between July and September had trained a further 5000 personnel with trainers from UK, Canada, New Zealand and Netherlands, with other countries following later
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Orbital
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Interflex
UK was also the first European country to send "lethal" aid.
Had you said, "The EU didn't move..."
"I think that, for example, [of] the discussion on the Ukrainian Training mission [EU Training Mission in Ukraine]. We had been discussing about the Ukrainian Training Mission before the war for months. “Do we have to send a training mission to Ukraine?”, “No, come on, Ukraine, training mission, military in Ukraine...”. And then, boom, the war comes and people said: “we should have done it.” Yes, we should have done it." Josep Borrell 10/10/2022
@kimbers I honestly expected that head banger to finish with One People, One Realm, One Leader!
