1/ I'm oblivious to the actual visible compacted snow/ice on the untreated housing estate type roads and I look somewhat surprised when travelling at 30 mph I don't stop as intended at the junction. (Several spotted whilst on dog walk at 6.30 this morning)
2/ I'm oblivious to the fact this road has been fully treated and looks safe to travel on, but just in case I will do 15mph on this nsl section creating a need for people to overtake in a rushed manner, mainly because they are now late due to binning it on the estate road earlier. (Spotted and overtook on the drive in)
3/ I'm oblivious to the fact that industrial estate road has a full snow covering and quite a large construction traffic/people presence in the area, so I will again travel at 30 mph and nearly run someone over. (Spotted this morning as the silly cow nearly bonneted me as I was crossing)
And it' not even that snowy round here!!!
1. Car has ABS, cars fault for not stopping like it’s dry
2. It’s speed ‘limit’ not ‘target’
3. Should’ve looked before crossing. Silly pedestrian
4) I'm spinning my wheels on compacted snow on this hill, so the obvious solution is to just rev my engine harder to polish up the road surface further. I offer this polishing service free of charge to help other road users.
There's no snow here, so everything pretty normal - but I was amused to see the report from a Lancashire village (I think) this morning on the BBC and a Volvo went past at speed as the reporter was talking and nearly lost the back end. Went a bit sideways, would've been hilarious if the moron had spun out live on telly.
My favourites are those who don't bother to clear their windows properly before setting off. Who needs to be able to see whilst driving anyway?
5) I'll sit a car's length behind the vehicle in front because I'm a driving god and the laws of physics don't apply to me.
5) People who drive down to the bottom of a steep hill cul-de-sac as normal cos they are too lazy to do a 3 point turn outside their drive half way up - except there's snow, so they look all surprised when they cannot then drive back up the hill. And then do 3) sitting there with their foot on the pedal not moving wondering what is happening.
My favourites are those who don’t bother to clear their windows properly before setting off. Who needs to be able to see whilst driving anyway?
I always assumed those squinting through a tiny aperture in the icy windscreen are gynaecologists honing their skills on the way to work?
Not enough snow by me to change any of the normal driving crap. I was a bit disappointed when I got to the empty work car park that I couldn't have a laugh with the handbrake - maybe tomorrow.
Its the ones who leave all the snow on their bonnets and their roofs and just clear a little porthole in the windscreen. Do you really think thats safe? Do you?
2/ I’m oblivious to the fact this road has been fully treated and looks safe to travel on, but just in case I will do 15mph on this nsl section creating a need for people to overtake in a rushed manner, mainly because they are now late due to binning it on the estate road earlier. (Spotted and overtook on the drive in)
Should that read
2\ the road is wet and shiny, it's -4 and there's obvious ice, there's no need to do 60mph just because i legally can and there's no need for people to overtake we'll all get there at this speed as opposed to burying ourselves in the ditch because it's an NSL.
Just up the road from you in Matlock everyone was exceptionally well behaved - sensible speeds, sensible stopping distances.
Should that read
2\ the road is wet and shiny, it’s -4 and there’s obvious ice, there’s no need to do 60mph just because i legally can and there’s no need for people to overtake we’ll all get there at this speed as opposed to burying ourselves in the ditch because it’s an NSL.
Yes I do believe it is a limit and not a target. However having come from a pretty remote place and having been taught to drive by my dad (ex rally driving god) in such conditions I am a driving god also, in fact I even had a couple of brake checks as I set off as it's usually a reasonable general indicator. I'm fully aware of black ice etc but this section of road did not warrant 15 mph. I overtook and driving godded on my way at 30mph which I found acceptable in the conditions.
Time and a place and all that, but 15 mph was just a little bit too cautious for what was a clear (to the eye admittedly) road.
My favourites are those who don’t bother to clear their windows properly before setting off. Who needs to be able to see whilst driving anyway?
Nah, these are the narrow minded imbeciles that think life is only important if it’s their own.
I’m spinning my wheels on compacted snow on this hill, so the obvious solution is to just rev my engine harder
Yeah seen a few of them. They seem to operate on the basis that if they spin their tyres fast enough it might build up enough heat to melt through snow/ice (at which point they will catapult forward and have no way to stop quickly).
1) "We live 1/2 a mile from my 15yr old sons grammar school & I usually take him but because our 80K 4X4 Chelsea Tractor may get stuck in the 2" of snow on our 200yd long drive, I'll let him stay off."
2) I drive a 16 seat Merc Sprinter minibus with rear wheel drive & an autobox, taking children & adults with special needs to various locations in & around town, I start the run at 07.00 & will drive according to conditions. I WILL get everyone to their destinations safely & cause no problems to other road users.
3) It's my day off.
6) the train was on time, plenty of free seats and i got to work early enough to buy a lovely coffee and sit down for a bit. i also have the bonus of a 20 minute walk to the station for a bit of exercise
They seem to operate on the basis that if they spin their tyres fast enough it might build up enough heat to melt through snow/ice
like this?
way to keep warm if stranded
1) I’ve got a four wheel drive so I can drive faster on these snow covered roads. My brain has only just worked out that having four wheel drive means shit when I apply the brakes and skid into the car in front resulting 4 cars being damaged on a narrow residential street.
2) I will park right outside the gate to my house even though it’s at a T-Junction which makes hard for everyone else using the road. My car has now been damaged again due 1)
3) I will use the salt out of the grit bins to do my drive and then blame the council for not gritting the roads and that’s why the no one can get up the short steep hill at the other end of the road that’s not blocked off with a crashed 4x4.
All witnessed on our street this morning.
"I've got four wheel drive so I don't need to slow for the reduced grip because obviously four wheel drive helps you to stop when you put your foot on the brake pedal in snow". edit - clearly a common one then
Most impressive was the bin lorry. Bloke driving inside cab - Hi-viz coat. Bloke emptying bins in the back - T shirt.
7) Smug mountain biker riding to work as usual over taking the que of traffic up the hill instead of patiently waiting for them to polish the ice further.
1: They have spotted a gap in the slow-moving traffic (the gap I had left as to keep a safe stopping distance between me and the car in front) then pull into it causing others to have to attempt to slow down on an untreated road in treacherous conditions.
2: Yes - that Cockwomble was driving a Range Rover Sport so he'll have assumed he was invincible and the rest of us could go to hell.
And the addon to #2 where said driver gets really angry when someone dares to overtake them so they'll flash their lights for 5mins even though the other driver is already half a mile down the road already!!
Well we've just had a 20 min snowmaggedon session. Main road at the bottom of the site and in to the town of Ripley complete white out and good covering of snow. I'd nipped out and just got back as it was finishing managing the whole 10 min drive using the brakes only once as it was that slippy.
However bus driver man has just won the internet as he has gone past the site on totally covered road at at least 40mph. Huge bollox that man must have!
@jambo its a good job they put a cone out to warn other drivers of the potential hazard of an alight vehicle.
I rode in on the towpath, it's been slippy horrible mud for months. Frozen solid and tailwind this morning, which was nice.
Too many to mention this morning, but the usual suspects were out.
Our resident petrolhead/cyclist hater covered himself in glory this morning by ranting about the cyclist who had the audacity to be on the road at the same time as he was while attempting to get to work, and then in the next sentence telling us how funny it was that he could barely see out of his windscreen because his washer jets were frozen and he was having to try & scrape snow from the roof onto the windscreen (yes, while driving) to obtain some moisture for his wipers to clear the caked on salt/mud crust.
My commute was fairly uneventful with most doing a reasonable speed & keeping extra distance.
But
Who'd have thought the steep roads either side of a ford would have ice on them in -6C
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/firefighters-rescue-two-cars-stranded-1273927
I had quite a fun jaunt around central London in the works Transit.
No real issues, there were the usual stereotypes and a couple of lemmings that hadn’t yet worked out two tons of Van needs more than 2 metres to stop on ice, even at 5mph.
Also love how badly written that Devon Live news report is.
Clearly the folk who find clearing the windscreen too difficult have been watching Das Boot and Run Silent Run Deep
8) Mid-20's blonde gym bunny, in full gym outfit, attempting to drive down one of the steepest hills around, in a Mini (natch), wondering why Mini is now wedged against bank a few metres down and using a garden trowel to drop grit down the remaining 80m of road, rather than reverse the 10m back up and park on the flat, as being suggested by all the passers by....
9) Smug boss in her Subaru with winter tyres and a decade of driving in Norway experience.
Saw a bloke this morning, seen him before on my commute. Full blizzard conditions, compacted snow on the road this guy is owning it, legs out on his Transalp, kudos.
Saw a Tank Commander driving up the lane in his Siemens branded van this morning. Frozen snow on all windows apart from the slit that he had scraped clear on the windscreen. I hope that he didn't hurt anyone apart from himself.
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9) Smug boss in her Subaru with winter tyres and a decade of driving in Norway experience.
Full house there. Though the latter is almost certainly the most important - a numpty could still make a mess of it given the same equipment.
The standard one I see is already mentioned above - when struggling a bit put your foot down. When we had the last big snow in December I saw a few getting stuck using that technique on little hills I just cruised up by doing the opposite.
Another idiot I saw this morning (well two really):
1 – Silly cow on my side of the road heading straight at me (in such a fashion as she clearly assumed she had the right of way) in her X5 covered in snow but for what the front wipers had managed to clear.
2 – The idiot that had parked their car (and for some time judging by the remaining snow and tracks of cars having to round it) despite the road having parking restrictions on it and causing everyone using the road to be put at risk in the first place.
the driver who thinks nothing of blowing 30k+ on a car but is too tight/lazy to buy screenwash that doesn't freeze. necessitating panic braking on the motorway/random pulling over on the roadside when the low sun and road salt combo completely blinds them.
bonus as above
a) who you see in the petrol station giving off because all the screenwash has been sold and is throwing a bottle of vittell at the outside of their windscreen
b) has bought a bottle of vittel and is trying to add it to the frozen washer bottle but can't work out how to open the bonnet.
witnessed numerous times today
quite a few this morning,
young lass texting on m62 with 3 lanes of snowy goodness all aound WTF
B Q delivery artic flashing lights 20 m from my rear cos id come up against middle lane muppet who couldnt wouldnt cross slush to inside lane outside snowed up so couldnt overtake him.
BQ undertook then continued up next drivers ass. crap driving to be reported to BQ?
car /artic trailer interface at roundabout at bottom of hill car wedged under nearside middle of trailer all drivers seemed ok . look out they walk among us!
I'd like to think that Tank Commanders would be pulled over* and charged with something like dangerous driving or reckless endangerment. Ideally publicly named and shamed too.
There really is no excuse for it. This snow isn't even particularly hard to clear - its a two minute job. How can anyone be in that much of a hurry that they just scrape one tiny strip and say "That seems perfectly adequate for driving a several ton vehicle in dangerous conditions"?!
* (Although I realise this would require a proactive well-funded well-resourced police force).
Loads of idiots. SIL just boasted she' walked about 4 or 5 miles to work this afternoon on FB. I got deleted after I said the roads were clear. She posted a pic of a slightly snow covered road that's on a hill but when I mentioned the main road next to it that's snow free. Deleted. No you aren't a hero, you walked in the freezing cold cos you can't bloody drive properly. You live 200 yards from a well gritted main road. You'l be expecting someone to take you home tomorrow after you'e been on the ale tonight after your 3 hour shift.
Rant over. Going to clear our road for my neighbours when I get home then go out on the bike in the snow.
Oh we've just had another classic. I pull up outside my house on the road. Its a long 30mph affair. Left the lights on on the van facing on coming traffic for extra visibility. Some **** has come bollocking up and a car coming the other way has forced him to stop. He's slammed on hit the kerb, gone up it, dropped back down and finished two feet from my van. He then starts pipping and waving at me for daring to stop there. I really really could have pulled him out the car and ****ted him!
I'm admirative of your SIL, fossy. She didn't put herself or anyone else at risk and enjoyed a walk in a Winter wonderland.
The snow didn't cause any unusually bad driving while I was out (on foot). Just the usual phoning, texting, impatience, speeding etc.
jag61 - definitely report to B&Q.