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New series tonight and a suggestion of a plot twist with the “red cloak”. I wonder if that would be given to a traitor who can kill another traitor?
I shall tune in but based on the reporting of who is taking part, their occupations, it sort of feels now that the players are possibly a bit “professional” which might take some of the fun out of it. Is anyone actually going to now believe anyone at all when they say they are not a traitor?
Will watch first episode tomorrow. I've a version of the game that has other roles - the seer and the doctor. Each turn the seer can ask for the true identity of a person to be revealed, and the doctor can select a person to be healed if they have been selected to be killed. I wonder if the red cloak is one of these, or similar?
I’d heard a rumour that the Red Cloak Traitor is someone that the audience doesn’t know is a Traitor.
We also have a Traitors card game (different to the one mentioned above) and it’s been a Christmas holiday staple - great fun.
Last year's non-celebrity Traitors was too screechy and hysterical. This bunch don't seem so bad in that sense - more like professionals than TV wannabes.
Every time they mentioned the hidden traitor we got a close-up on Jade - so it's defo not her! 🤣
Yeah the editors will have a ball with the secret traitor - convince us it's someone only for them to be murdered or banished, then rinse and repeat.
And will there be a replacement recruited if/when the secret traitor gets banished.
Last year's non-celebrity Traitors was too screechy and hysterical. This bunch don't seem so bad in that sense - more like professionals than TV wannabes.
The celebrity version was the first series I'd watched as I find most of these types of shows are spoilt by hysterical wannabe stars. Pleasantly surprised by the folk on this series so far.
Had to chuckle when the retired DCI walked into the bar and said "Ah, so this is the bar!" She's been nicknamed Clouseau in our house as a result.
I watched my first traitors towards the back end of the celebrity version and surprised myself by getting hooked.
Last night - meh. The pointless speculation about who could be a traitor based on zero evidence really grated.
Not sure secret traitor was the most imaginative name. Basically they are traitor's overlord, pulling all the strings. You could have had a lot more fun with that name than 'secret traitor'. I'm putting money on them being either the older Welsh lady or either the unknown (to the rest) mother and daughter.
The secret traitor is a nice idea for us to try our hand at traitor spotting. as long as the producers play fair with what they show. (Which they won’t )
It was fun seeing how annoyed the traitors were when they discovered that they had been stitched up.
I didn’t initially get the angst of the the three traitors about this, but then I can see how the secret one can play the game to get the three knowns banished, leaving them a clear run to the final. I wonder if the cast will ever know, or be told, there are four traitors circulating, or they will work on the usual premise of there being three.
The pointless speculation about who could be a traitor based on zero evidence really grated.
Also, I think it was James, who came out of the round table, asked a Traitor (Polly?) if they're a Traitor, she *obviously* said no and he said how glad he was that she wasn't a traitor.
It was fun seeing how annoyed the traitors were when they discovered that they had been stitched up.
Yep, this amused me too.
It was a good first episode I thought. The usual mix of overly bold confidence as to who is a traitor and how each of them will be so good at rooting people out.
Its a great show, but as my wife pointed out, voting out traitors early doors is useless as they just recruit new ones anyway until the last few days. Just pick a random name or 2 for the first 10 banishments, then focus on who's a traitor when you get to the business end.
The Traitors at The Proms was shown on NYD.
Mixed music from the series performed by the BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra and BBC singers with excellent guest singers.
Music includes a Traitors twist on Toxic, Vampire and Bad Guy, classical and the Traitors theme. It's a well-spent 75mins IMHO
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002p19b/bbc-proms-2025-the-traitors-at-the-proms
Very wide berth from me. A bunch of wannabe Z listers trying to make a name for themselves dressed up as cheap entertainment. These kind of shows used to be good but with the power of social media now they have just become a launchpad for attention seekers.
Very wide berth from me. A bunch of wannabe Z listers trying to make a name for themselves dressed up as cheap entertainment. These kind of shows used to be good but with the power of social media now they have just become a launchpad for attention seekers.
I take it that you've never watched it then?
A bunch of wannabe Z listers trying to make a name for themselves dressed up as cheap entertainment.
It's a far cry from Love Island type shows and I've not seen anyone go onto major careers afterwards. The only one I've seen is Alex Gray from season one who's done a few low-level presenting jobs.
It's no launchpad for (temporary) riches!
Very wide berth from me. A bunch of wannabe Z listers trying to make a name for themselves dressed up as cheap entertainment. These kind of shows used to be good but with the power of social media now they have just become a launchpad for attention seekers.
I'm not sure this is very accurate. The 'celeb' version was full of folk who were very much not Z Listers. Maybe if they do multiple series it will be like all the others and get increasingly random z Listers to take part. And the non celeb version is obviously not z Listers - they are nobodies. But much more educated and less vacuous nobodies than love island gets (I assume - don't watch it). This version has a couple of barristers, a phycologist, a retired police detective inspector and....others I now forget.
I don't think I'll be arsed to watch beyond last night but it's pretty obvious that's it can't be dismissed as just the same as all the others big brother style dross.
The actual premise is quite clever - based on a phycology experiment by a russian academic in the 80's where the uninformed majority are always beaten by the informed minority. I just don't know if I have it in me to watch the uninformed majority making up daft assumptions and theories.
I am a fan and think that the secret traitor is a great twist as it involves the audience in trying to identify the person.
The frustrating thing I find with the format is when people that you think will get voted out early on. In the celebrity version I was looking forward to watching Nico but he was gone very swiftly and I was disappointed when Netty (fun personality) and Judy (loved hearing the Doncaster accent) left the game as I think they were two of the more interesting characters.
It's interesting to me that despite there now having been multiple series all following along similar lines none of the participants seem to have cottoned on to the important points that (a) you really don't have a clue for quite a while, odd variations in speech and behaviour really are not significant evidence and it's just guesswork where "gut instinct" is worthless and (b) the priority for the most part for the faithful is not to catch the traitors but simply ensure that someone else is banished other than yourself. It doesn't matter one whit that the faithful banish their own, repeatedly, unless they do it right to the end of the game. You don't have to work out who is a traitor, you just have to jump on the bandwagon and pick on whoever is today's scapegoat.
So, bets on the secret traitor?
I’m going for Fiona, but wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Roxy.
MrsTH reckons Amanda or Ellie.
Very wide berth from me
I'd argue that opening, reading then commenting on a thread about a TV show you pretend is beneath you suggests that you are giving it a very narrow berth.
I reckon Ellie, simply because she said the phrase, “secret traitor” rather than simply ”traitor”
The detective Amanda or the other barrister Harriet for the secret traitor, although the person in the cloak looked big, so Ross the PT Trainer.
barrister Harriet
The way she skewered Hugo was masterful, hope it isn’t her!
I thought Amanda to begin with, but would be a massive waste of her skills to do so, so reckon not just from a good telly point of view.
I reckon Ellie, simply because she said the phrase, “secret traitor” rather than simply ”traitor”
We caught that too - obviously only the traitors and viewers know of a "secret traitor", so it stood out.
She hasn’t featured all that much in the pieces to camera either, so wouldn’t have to lie directly to camera, much.