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[Closed] Tory plans to limit number NHS GP visits for each person.

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Yes. Agreed. Doctors are lovely chaps in general.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 10:17 pm
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Its just another swivel eyed looney idea from Tory Party activists - it's not official party policy.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 10:22 pm
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I'd love a visit from my GP. Last time I called my local Surgery I was told to wait 2weeks for an appointment, I will from now on book illness 2weeks hence..
Idiots (most of them)


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 10:26 pm
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The paper also asks whether evening and weekend appointments with GPs and consultants are a "luxury the country cannot afford".

FFS they want us to work and now they want us to take time of work to be ill. What sort of enterprise culture is this?


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 10:27 pm
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Labour seized on the document...

and later,

The document is buried on the website of the Conservative Policy Forum

(So, yes, swivel eyed loons)

HM Opposition might actually constructively criticise active government policy one of these days instead of seizing on documents buried on websites to create some spin. Useless eejits.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 10:32 pm
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Does that mean I get a refund on the basis I haven't visited my GP for a couple of years?


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 10:41 pm
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hold on its the tories surely we should be able to sell them to the ill?


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 10:43 pm
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Not seen mine for 3 years, does this mean I can go sit in his office for a couple of weeks?


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 10:43 pm
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Lets ringfence the billions for overseas aid instead. Wonder how its rinsed before it reaches its source


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 10:47 pm
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Just need to stop people going in with a cold - or old people who fancy a bit of a chat....


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 10:49 pm
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A year? why not a lifetime? I can count the number of visits to my GP over my 43yr lifetime on my hands. As a ratio of visits for the amount of tax I've paid? This entitles me to more visits than poor people. </sarcasm>

"Just need to stop people going in with a cold - or old people who fancy a bit of a chat.."

This is tory fiction. Dragon-like receptionists prevent the odd time waster. Theory is counterbalanced by people who suffer and die of diseases through late diagnosis because they are urged NOT to bother their GP.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 11:12 pm
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Isn't everyone going to A&E now anyway?


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 11:16 pm
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The weekend system as it is is terrible. Out of hours coverage is pathetic. It's a shame people don't only get ill during office hours.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 11:19 pm
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Pretty good in Devon. Had a few occasion to call on them for my son and generally seen a doctor within the hour.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 11:21 pm
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Yep, as if that idea would survive a moment's deliberation on the impact of the first patient who keels over after being refused an appointment.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 11:35 pm
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Based on the couple of times I've sat in a GP's waiting room, 90% of those waiting are either Mums with babies/toddlers and old folk.

So would it tot up against the Mum, or the baby?


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 11:41 pm
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Theory is counterbalanced by people who suffer and die of diseases through late diagnosis because they are urged NOT to bother their GP.

And the increased cost of later intervention o'course. Better cut back on those pennies of prevention.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 11:42 pm
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The poll tax was once an idea of the looney right (The Adam Smith institute). Whatever became of it?


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 9:43 am
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So it's babies and old people who cause load on the NHS is it?

Hmmm, /rubs chin.


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 9:48 am
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The weekend system as it is is terrible. Out of hours coverage is pathetic. It's a shame people don't only get ill during office hours.

If it's an emergency your GP is not the right person to see. If it's not an emergency it can wait till the morning / monday.


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 9:55 am
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So it's babies and old people who cause load on the NHS is it?

Hmmm, /rubs chin.

For once, I'm in tune with your vision of a Conservative future...

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Posted : 29/05/2013 9:55 am
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If it's an emergency your GP is not the right person to see. If it's not an emergency it can wait till the morning / monday.

Not quite true, though...
There's different levels of 'emergency' - some are suited for direct theatre and ITU admission, some are perfectly managed by primary care resources (GP, walk in centre etc).

It is true, though, that management of chronic and non urgent conditions really only take place 'in hours', which really is how it should be.
There's [b]always[/b] 24 hour access to urgent and immediately-necessary care - be that a GP, MIU, A+E etc...

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Posted : 29/05/2013 10:03 am
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Not quite true, though...

I was overly simplifying it. Sorry.

It's this that I, and the post I quoted, was really talking about...

It is true, though, that management of chronic and non urgent conditions really only take place 'in hours', which really is how it should be.


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 10:10 am
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Fair dooze... I'll cancel the angry mob of doctors heading your way... 😉

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Posted : 29/05/2013 10:12 am
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OK, I'll definitely need to take a credit card with me. But can I have a rebate for repeat visits resulting from well-known side-effects?


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 10:18 am
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The Tories have to start getting more hard-line in this area to counter UKIP and their provisionally titled "Grand National" policy.

This involes your illness being assessed on a points system. Then depending on your score, reflecting how much you're potentially going to cost the NHS, you are taken out the back, and 'humanely destroyed'. Which is definitely not a more media-palatable phrase for being shot.

Extra points will be added for swarthy complexions, Beards, Chippy Northernerness, Track-suityness, and any religious adornments that aren't a cross


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 10:23 am
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The Conservative Party hate the NHS and would love to get rid of it. To them, it’s ideologically on a par with communism and so chip chip away at it as best they can, encouraged by big donations from private healthcare providers. Their previous Health Minister, Andrew Lansley, was historically on the payroll of one of the biggest private healthcare providers who went on to get some major NHS contracts.

If the Tory party get in at the next election the NHS is completely ****ed. Anyone who votes Tory at the next election better hope they or their family never has to make use of its services in the future and remember, there isn’t a private A&E.


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 10:23 am
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Well, that nice Mr Hunt (check spelling) has said it was not and was never going to be Tory policy. And he took a dig at 38 degrees. It's on twitter and won't copy across.

Funny how it was previously reported as such in both the Mail (spits) and the Inde. I trust he'll be demanding an apology.


 
Posted : 31/05/2013 9:57 am
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Posted : 31/05/2013 10:07 am
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..."WAS never going to be"...

But that leaves some wiggle room for the future...


 
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