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my cousin went up to Wimbledon to visit her friend. she's been there several times before and has always parked in the same spot. except yesterday she parked there and when she returned 45 minutes later the car was gone.

phoned up police and they told her that it had been towed.

why had it been towed?

because the street had been closed off to parking because of Ramadan!

turns out there is a mosque around the corner and the spaces were being kept for those visiting the mosque!

do christians get this sort of treatment around easter?

**** me. and it cost her £255 to get her car back. not sure who she should be more pissed at.... the mosque (for asking for such favours) or the council and police (for agreeing to them).

does this happen elsewhere?

should she kick up a stink? i said she should write to the MP and council.


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 10:06 am
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A good story for the Daily Wail


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 10:08 am
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This could get very interesting indeed. Personally, as much as I'd like her to kick up a stink I doubt she'll get very far.


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 10:09 am
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so she ignored or did not see the no parking signs?


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 10:11 am
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Firstly the objective: if there weren't any signs then irrespective of the reasons for the restrictions she can appeal.

But:

not sure who she should be more pissed at.... the mosque (for asking for such favours) or the council and police (for agreeing to them).

Wow.


 
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Parking restriction for events happen all the time. Outside my local church was coned off yesterday for a wedding.

Did she ignore the signs?


 
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8" square parking signs. as she said, she'd parked there often enough in the past and once you're use to a routine of parking up in the same spot for the past six months you don't check the parking signs each time you park.

turns out the existing signs had been covered with new signs detailing the new parking times.

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nothing 'coned' off. street looked as it did previously - other than the new signage.


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 10:13 am
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so she ignored or did not see the no parking signs?

even so, the mosque having that power is ridiculous.


 
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Temporary parking restrictions are enforced for all sorts of reasons, football, music festivals, MTB events and religious festivals. If it wasn't signed complain, if it was then suck it up.


 
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This could get very interesting indeed. Personally, as much as I'd like her to kick up a stink I doubt she'll get very far.

Why should she 'kick up a stink'? She either ignored 'No Parking' and got towed legally or there were no signs and she can appeal and get her money back.

It's just a parking restriction ffs it happens all the time for a variety of reasons.


 
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[b][u]SHOULD HAVE USED PUBLIC TRANSPORT..........[/u][/b]


 
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This is nothing to do with religion. its to do with adequate signage... Roads around a church near me are regularly made temporarily 'no parking' for all sorts of events; weddings, funerals, various god bothering stuff. Meh.


 
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alpin - that

turns out the existing signs had been covered with new signs detailing the new parking times.
is extremely harsh.


 
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so she ignored or did not see the no parking signs?

even so, the mosque having that power is ridiculous.

[i]Everyone[/i] has that power you idiot.


 
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So a street is closed to parking with no visible notices/signs?

Or did she ignore them and hope it would be OK.

If only it had been closed for a church fete, you could have blamed Christians and cheered up woppit.

Is she one of those thick Caucasians that dark skinned chaps laugh about while plotting jihad against red top reading infidels?


 
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So a church should not be allowed to do the same thing? See Jambos post.

We have road restrictions,parking restrictions and closures all the time around here for different events.

The issue here is her lack of observation meaning she parked where she should not have


 
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She was completely at fault, ignorance is no defence.


 
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Due to the local carnival we had parking restrictions around one of the main parks in town yesterday which caused traffic chaos

I'm not clowning about, it's hard to juggle priorities you know


 
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there really are some neanderthal rascist monkeys in the world..


 
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So it wasn't "No parking"? If the people visiting the Mosque were allowed to use the spaces.

How did the police know who was who?

Seems very strange. They put no parking signs near where I live when the sports club is having a big event. But the people visiting the event are not allowed to park either.


 
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Due to the local carnival we had parking restrictions around one of the main parks in town yesterday which caused traffic chaos

I'm not clowning about, it's hard to juggle priorities you know

i lol'd.


 
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sorry.. just re-read my first post.....

not sure who she should be more pissed at.... the mosque (for asking for such favours) or the council and police (for agreeing to them).

should read:

[i]she's[/i] not sure who she should be more pissed at.... the mosque (for asking for such favours) or the council and police (for agreeing to them).


 
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i don't get the 'racist' bit in this thread ? are the peolple that towed the car away [i]'other'[/i], or is it the people that made the decision to restrict parking that are [i]'other'[/i].

either way, i don't see any reason to get pissy with the people obseving ramadan as it's clearly not their fault, so the op can't be getting all racist on their asses. unless of course he's directing his anger in the completely wrong place.

confused, devon.


 
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Daft question, how did the tow truck crew know she wasn't a muslimist?
The other cars would have had tickets or something in the windows?


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 10:25 am
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SHOULD HAVE USED PUBLIC TRANSPORT..........

😯 You mean a bus? Are you mad?


 
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Have none of you ever experienced permit parking?


 
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even so, the mosque having that power is ridiculous.

The car park outside Mud Dock in Bristol was full of fairground rides yesterday and there was no parking allowed. I think there is some sort of secret society that controls such things!

Oh - no - there isn't. Just dull people with sad parochial views and people who can't read signs.

(The Bristol Harbour Festival appears to be the Grand High Poobah of Powerfulness if having 'power' in these things is concerned. 🙄 )


 
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Whats a bus???? Are they those great big box things that travel round our way with no one on them burning loads of diesel?


 
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I agree Trailmonkey.

Where does the racism come in?

The only way it could be racist would be to suggest Muslims should not be given the same support for their freedom to worship as other faiths.

Alpin - what are you/your cousin angry about? Do you think the parking restrictions were only put in place because it was a Mosque and the same support wouldn't be given to a Christian church?


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 10:30 am
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anyone can close the road for a fee. they were just more organised than the native god botherers.

Oh if only Diana was here


 
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I'm still confused.

Was it "No parking" or parking for Mosque goers only?

Closing a road and stopping parking altogether is completely difference.

Did they issue parking permits for a defined period?


 
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German Troll


 
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there really are some neanderthal rascist monkeys in the world..

Muslims are not a single race of people, therefore the objection cannot technically be 'racist'.

I'm not sure of the word that describes prejudice on the grounds of religious belief but if it's anything it would be that.

What then is the reason the Mosque wanted the parking restricted? Is there a practical reason, i.e. they were planning some sort of street festival? Or is it because it offends their Islamic-ness?


 
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What do the new signs say/look like?


 
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i'm not angry.... i don't even have a car.

she, however, is really pissed off.

and i didn't say it was rascist, only that it could be interpreted so (this being STW).

she told me about it this morning and i thought i'd post it up here to see what the STW forumites would make of it.

that is all.

i have no more information other than what i said in the first post.


 
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Write to the mosque explain what happened, they may send a cheque to cover the cost. You never know.


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 10:38 am
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this is an outrage next thing you know shops and banks will be closed for other fantastical religous festivals like xmas or easter

will the madness never end?


 
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I used to live 100m away from 'old' Leicester City Football ground. On match days people's cars got towed from our street all the time. Road was not closed as the few folk with front drives could still go in and out. Everyone else had to find somewhere to put their car once a fortnight.

What if you were used to parking in our street to go to visit or work in the nearby factories, hospital, FE college etc, (no residents permits or staying limits when i lived there at least) and then one day you did it on a match day?


 
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Just for clarity. Parking restrictions and the enforcement of parking fines and/or towing are nothing to do with the police (with a very few exceptions)


 
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What then is the reason the Mosque wanted the parking restricted? Is there a practical reason, i.e. they were planning some sort of street festival? Or is it because it offends their Islamic-ness?

What part of their 'Islamic-ness' (wtf?) would it offend? Perhaps if you read the OP you might have seen this little clue:

because the street had been closed off to parking because of Ramadan!

turns out there is a mosque around the corner and the spaces were being kept for those visiting the mosque!


 
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What if you were used to parking in our street to go to visit or work in the nearby factories, hospital, FE college etc, (no residents permits or staying limits when i lived there at least) and then one day you did it on a match day?

Just a guessing but maybe find somewhere else to park?


 
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I used to live on a street where the parking restrictions would change based on whether Arsenal were playing that day. I've had temporary restrictions where I've lived for various festivals, music events, running and cycle races, and even neighbours moving house so needing to park a truck outside.

Absolutely no excuse for not reading the signs that apply to the bay. If she ignored them, tough. If it was either not signed, or inadequately marked, then she might have grounds for appeal. Regularly using it and not bothering to look isn't.


 
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Just a guessing but maybe find somewhere else to park?

Exactly. (it was rhetorical question) If this was a car being towed away because of the football, it would be a non-thread. I don't see how 'extraordinary' (not as in 'wierd' but as in 'not the same as the usual weekly/daily restrictions') parking restictions for a religious festival is any different.


 
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yet another reason added to my list to emigrate!


 
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Do we know if this was to allow visitors to the mosque to park (unlikely) or to stop visitors to the mosque parking there?


 
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I'd be tempted to say it's a bit unfair. Yes, there were signs posted detailing the parking restrictions, but just posted over the original signs? I reckon some clamping/towing firm spied a lot of easy money to be made. At least in Edinburgh the [i]ad hoc[/i] parking restriction enforcers have the decency to plaster every vertical surface with bright yellow placards that you can't fail to miss.


 
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yet another reason added to my list to emigrate!

Byebye

Don't know where you think you will find better but hey ho


 
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Yes, there were signs posted detailing the parking restrictions, but just posted over the original signs?

Exactly the same (in Brighton) as when removal companies get a restriction when they're moving someone out so they can park outside the house. It's not some vast conspiracy ffs!

Parking is a reason to emigrate? 😆


 
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Try emigrating to muslimland. I hear they're really keen on civil liberties there.


 
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yet another reason added to my list to emigrate!

Byebye

Don't know where you think you will find better but hey ho

i can list 25 countries better than hear so it shouldn't be to hard to find some were better, any of these countries is better than this shit hole. They all come above us in the Human Development Index

Norway
Australia
New Zealand
United States
Ireland
Liechtenstein
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Germany
Japan
South Korea
Switzerland
France
Israel
Finland
Iceland
Belgium
Denmark
Spain
Hong Kong
Greece
Italy
Luxembourg
Austria


 
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Try emigrating to muslimland. I hear they're really keen on civil liberties there.

What does that have to do with anything? And where is 'Muslimland' I can't find it on map?


 
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http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/

If you find tolerance of others, you find a much easier life afforded to you.

_EDIT_ link NSFW btw or kid friendly.


 
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Does it affect the discussion if I tell you that Ramadan doesn't start until tomorrow, and that this was probably just a Friday afternoon prayer (albeit that the last prayer before Ramadan might be busier than usual?). Might it be that this restriction is in place for every Friday afternoon prayer (hence the reason the signs are much the same as normal). It would certainly be unusual for temporary parking restrictions not to be clearly signed. If your cousin is trying to appeal she should do so only on the signage / facts and not on any prejudices she may have that Muslims should not be allowed to congregate in large crowds with the potential impact on traffic.

I don't buy the "its my cousin that is upset not me" story - as you have taken the time to post here so are clearly outraged. The fact you haven't had the sense to question if other events (for different faiths and activities) have parking restriction but recognised this might get you called a racist suggests you probably are.


 
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Parking is a reason to emigrate?

you miss read my quote that attitude of the ****s on hear is a reason to emigrate. Its like OMG so one has ideas that are different than my own, he must be a bad and evil person, because the magical oracle of the Guardian/daily mail/some other shitty paper news paper tells us so. Its not about parking. If i emigrate than i would be a immigrants so hating would be ****ing dumb, i would be a proud patriot but this country is to shitty to be worth the effort so im going to a nicer country so i can be proud of that one!


 
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ilovemygears - i can list 25 countries better than hear so it shouldn't be to hard to find some were better, any of these countries is better than this shit hole. They all come above us in the Human Development Index
more than half those countries are EU member states - which means you can migrate their today without needing to apply for a visa or anything. So what are you doing posting on STW - you should be packing...


 
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[i]What does that have to do with anything?[/i]
This chap seems to be quite concerned about the lack of tolerance for our fellow man in this country.

[i]And where is 'Muslimland' I can't find it on map? [/i]
Well duh! If it was on a map the Americans would send soldiers there.


 
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ilovemygears - i can list 25 countries better than hear so it shouldn't be to hard to find some were better, any of these countries is better than this shit hole. They all come above us in the Human Development Index
more than half those countries are EU member states - which means you can migrate their today without needing to apply for a visa or anything. So what are you doing posting on STW - you should be packing...

as soon as i have completed my nursing degree and girlfriend has finished her degree i will be,


 
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i can list 25 countries better than hear so it shouldn't be to hard to find some were better, any of these countries is better than this shit hole. They all come above us in the Human Development Index

we could list several countries where the inhabitants have a better understanding regarding the useage of: 'hear' and 'here'; 'too' and 'to'; or 'is' and 'are'. just saying, like.

i don't live in the UK, but can honestly say that you are lucky to be living in a country which provides you with free health care, schools, proper beer and proper chips.

EDIT: and smoked bacon, hobnobs, TK Maxx.


 
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goodbye - the country will be a better place without you

Please pay back the money we have spent on training you first.


 
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don't live in the UK, but can honestly say that you are lucky to be living in a country which provides you with free health care, schools, proper beer and proper chips.

lots of countries have every thing you have mentioned only better. the schools in the UK are shit, you want you're child to go to a real school you pay. you want to go to a clean hospital you pay, you want real beer, most the shit they sell in pubs ant real beer, and chips are bad for you! smoked bacon can kill you,


 
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Parking is a reason to emigrate?

you miss read my quote that attitude of the * on hear is a reason to emigrate. Its like OMG so one has ideas that are different than my own, he must be a bad and evil person, because the magical oracle of the Guardian/daily mail/some other shitty paper news paper tells us so. Its not about parking. If i emigrate than i would be a immigrants so hating would be * dumb, i would be a proud patriot but this country is to shitty to be worth the effort so im going to a nicer country so i can be proud of that one!

Brilliant, I love satire!


 
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goodbye - the country will be a better place without you

Please pay back the money we have spent on training you first.


no!


 
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thank buggery you are going into nursing and not education. or are you being ironic? i hope for you're [sic] sake you are.


 
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They all come above us in the Human Development Index

There's a reason for that - maybe they have fewer intolerant poorly educated ****tards there?


 
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Parking is a reason to emigrate?

you miss read my quote that attitude of the * on hear is a reason to emigrate. Its like OMG so one has ideas that are different than my own, he must be a bad and evil person, because the magical oracle of the Guardian/daily mail/some other shitty paper news paper tells us so. Its not about parking. If i emigrate than i would be a immigrants so hating would be * dumb, i would be a proud patriot but this country is to shitty to be worth the effort so im going to a nicer country so i can be proud of that one!

Brilliant, I love satire!

why is that satire? pleas explain!


 
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😯

So you're serious?


 
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lots of countries have every thing you have mentioned only better. the schools in the UK are shit

The one you didn't attend very often clearly was


 
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They all come above us in the Human Development Index
There's a reason for that - maybe they have fewer intolerant poorly educated ****tards there?

well im not poorly educated, just very dyslexic i have a 2:1 in history and went to a nice school etc. so you are calling me a ****ard as i cant spell, that makes a bigot ... 🙂


 
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not sure who she should be more pissed at....

Never mind the muslimists, can we have less of the Americanisms please ?


 
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I called you a ****tard because of your dreary and ill founded rhetoric not because of your spelling. I live in Switzerland some of the time, lots of muslims and bigots here too. They even have black people and the parking in Geneva is a bloody nightmare, Ramadan or not!


 
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ilovemygears - I need your help to emigrate out of the internet. Sounds like utopia.


 
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you can't be dsylxeic if you manage to spell dsylxeic properly.....


 
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I called you a ****tard because of your dreary and ill founded rhetoric not because of your spelling. I live in Switzerland some of the time, lots of muslims and bigots here too. They even have black people and the parking in Geneva is a bloody nightmare, Ramadan or not!

its white lower middle class people i hate! also i dont really care what people on the net think, but its fun to watch the anger build


 
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I agree with the assertion made in the thread title.


 
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its white lower middle class people i hate!

2:1 in history did you say......


 
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Closing this now - several of you should be expecting a ban....


 
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