"But she has a British passport they said…..” I just had to laugh at their absolute certainty this was the best thing ever
And that is why there should never have been a referendum. If the electorate aren't engaged and don't understand the issue how can you get a sensible answer.
Also, was born in England, have lived in Scotland all of my adult life and am now an Irish citizen. Means I have three times the opportunity a winning team to cheer in the rugby!
if asked, what nationality would you say you were? ?
I should get my Irish citizenship sorted but for me it would be about €1,300 as I don’t have the Irish relative route. As a Scot living in Ireland (longer than I lived in Scotland these days) and married to an Irish national, the kids are Irish ( I do try to tell them they are half Scottish but funnily they have no interest in a British passport) I get to stand in a different queue at passport control for the time being. I will get round to it one day but the cost has put me off up to now.
if asked, what nationality would you say you were?
When asked, I say I'm from Scotland. I've lived here since I was nineteen, spent 25 years working in the public sector, have raised three kids here and do a lot of community type work. I think I've earned it. Also, its just better.
I got my Polish citizenship through my Polish grandparents.
it’s a lovely feeling isn’t it.
My wife and I can now spend as much time as we want within the EU come retirement in 12 years or so.
Hopefully things will change significantly for the better, in the future, so that my kids (6 and 9) will enjoy the late teens, early 20’s/30’s that my wife and I had working in the EU.
xxxx Brexit.
Next phase of the project is to fully explore what option my wife has via her Italian grandmother. I'm then really, really hoping that one of these routes will extend through to my kids. They would never have voted for Brexit, but it is them who are missing out the most. I would love to be able to get them an EU passport.
I will obviously be popping out for a pint of something (not sure what….) to celebrate but also planning a 4-5 day bike tour in Ireland next year to get to know my fellow Irish citizens. Any routes / trails / tours / areas to recommend?
Congratulations, give me a shout when you are coming over and I can show you around the popular trails in Dublin and Wicklow.
@franksinatra How long did yours take? I sent off my application in June.
I’ve never had to get a visa for anywhere.
Well, that’s alright then. No in-person interviews at the consulate and seemingly random fees for you.
My nieces have managed to get Italian passports through their grandfather on the other side. Just before he died.
My own kids, well, no dice… my only “claim” is that I was born in Germany. But for the Germans, residency trumps all else, so I’d have to be living back there… which I wouldn’t mind at all… but it wouldn’t help my kids, and I can’t move there anyway, because I only have a UK passport… because…
Arrived in about 8 weeks. Needed to get my mums long form birth certificate. Really annoyingly it's cheaper to get than a "blue" UK one. Oh and it was nice to glide past the queue at Barcelona in the summer.alsonquicker back in as the non-UK queue was so much shorter.
On behalf of everyone in Ireland, I'd like to apologise for the lack of blue covers. That said, welcome aboard.
Missed it by one generation - my great-grandfather was Irish, but then if I could include my other genealogy, I could claim Guyanese, Mali, Senegal and Nigeria depending on how far you go back. If I go back on my mother’s side, I could probably claim residency at Armley prison as a few of my ancestors lived there. 😉
Aha, I've discovered another route into the EU, if my heritage of Irish great grandparents is outwith the criteria
ITALIAN 😀
My G/GF was Italian, and if parent, grand or great grand was from Italy, you can apply for citizenship.
Interestingly, if Scotland gains independence, and NI is reunified with southern Ireland, i could end up with Scottish, English, EU, Irish and Italian passports
How long did yours take? I sent off my application in June.
I sent everything away in January this year, confirmation of applicaiton email received at the beginning of Feb.
My mum's Irish, and still has an Irish passport although she's been in this country since 1962.
Should I apply for an Irish passport? The issue is my wife will still have a British passport so if we go anywhere I'll still have to wait for her to clear the non-EU section anyway.
Assuming I do apply and receive an Irish passport, does that mean my children can then apply? Freedom to work and travel through the EU zone would be more useful to them than to me.
I’m too far removed- great great grandads family moved from Cork to the Rhondda in the mid 1800s
My mum’s Irish, and still has an Irish passport although she’s been in this country since 1962.
Should I apply for an Irish passport? The issue is my wife will still have a British passport so if we go anywhere I’ll still have to wait for her to clear the non-EU section anyway.
Assuming I do apply and receive an Irish passport, does that mean my children can then apply? Freedom to work and travel through the EU zone would be more useful to them than to me.
Generally speaking, Irish citizenship extend to grandchildren, not great grandchildren. So your kids should be eligible through Foreign Births Register as their grandparent is Irish.
Wife and kids doing the same thanks to her mum. I'll be billy no-mates in passport control!
Before we get the pitchforks out can we establish whether you voted for Brexit or not? 😉
so I can get a Ukrainian passport as my grandparents came from there, but it's not much use unless they get allowed into the EU and they remove that renounce your GB passport clause
I looked into trying for an Irish passport, after an Ancestry DNA test revealed I'm 14% Irish, and my mothers side of the family had the Magee surname.
My family tree now traces back to early 1700s (7x great grandparents), and still no trace of an Ireland born relative, so I'm resigned to sticking with the brexit passport edition 🙁
To close this thread off, look what arrived today! 11 months from submission of citizenship through Foreign Births Register to delivery of passport
my own little F*** You to Brexit.
Lucky thing, despite my Irish srname the relatives are too far back to qualify. My Mother is Norwegian and they keep changing the rules but If I can spend some time there I might get a Norwegian passport, then hello again EU land.
ah crap. I need a new passport this year and haven't got round to sorting out my irish citizenship yet. 11 months is gonna be too long for my hol in September! Why did I leave it til now...
nice to glide past the queue
Extra points for shouting 'brexit W******S!' as you stroll past 🙂
Hurrah for the Irish side of my family. It’s great skipping through passport control whilst the Brits all get to queue and complain.
Are you this deeply nasty in real life - or do you save it up for a British biking forum?
Hurrah for the Irish side of my family. It’s great skipping through passport control whilst the Brits all get to queue and complain.
Meh passport controls for plebs thou, easier to get off the Gulfstream and head to the FBO lounge and into the Rolls 🙂
My great grandparents were from Ireland, but my grandfather was born in the Tower of London so I missed out on applying for an Irish passport. However, my dad became an Irish citizen the week before he died from cancer, the Irish government expedited his application because we told them he was dying. We all thought that was incredible of them.
Fortunately my mums’ parents were born in Poland so I got one of these a month ago. So happy!
if you cant get the info from your relatives, how would you find all the details required for the irish passport?
i just have some names and dates
If you've got names and dates and it's NI, you can get copies of certificates from the NI public record office.
Same for the RoI, if you have the locations and birthdates, marriage and death dates you can apply for copies of the certificates.
if your relatives aren’t playing the game, a short subscription to something like Ancestry will enable you to dig into where these events have happened to clarify the details.
You need to be able to show how you are connected at each point. So your birth certificate showing the parent in question, and then follow backwards show the logical links.
Obviously they will need to see each of the official documents as proof.
Mrs JAMJ and no longer mini-JAMJ’s all qualify for Irish citizenships and passports. I have dual nationality United Kingdom/Mauritius - unfortunately a Mauritian passport is not much of an asset to friction-free travel.
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Hurrah for the Irish side of my family. It’s great skipping through passport control whilst the Brits all get to queue and complain.
Are you this deeply nasty in real life – or do you save it up for a British biking forum?
Haha if laughing at people who voted for Brexit and then moan about queues at the airport makes me nasty Ill take that every day.
Annoyingly the second time you go to the US you can join the US & Canadian citizens and returning ESTAs queue where, in my experience, you get greeted like a long lost brother.
The irish people will be chuffed to bits to hear of this and your impending visit.
My Irish ancestors will be well chuffed that I no longer queue thanks as am I.
if you cant get the info from your relatives, how would you find all the details required for the irish passport?
On the usual searches in Ireland or Northern Ireland records offices, perhaps through Ancestry for ease.
We are great grandparents Irish - so I am one too far a generation. My father and brother are seriously into looking up our ancestry, and we have mapped huge family tree around Scotland, England, Wales and Ireland on all sides of the family. Fundamentally I am Scottish and Irish from my great grandparents backwards....They are now are working out living blood relatives in Canada, USA, Australia, NZ and Sweden.
None of which gets me a bloody EU passport though.
Hey hey, my Irish passport arrived today! I decided to finally pull my finger out when this thread started and get our applications in for me and kids, they need to get on the FBR first so going to take a little longer for them though I think they will benefit more than me from EU citizenship, moreover will benefit their future children too. The hardest part of process was getting documentation from my parents (my mum called me a traitor, not sure if she was kidding or not) but it turns out it’s not hard to get copies for birth and marriage certificates by post especially if you have the key details.
I still have a few questions though for those with dual UK/EU passports;
Do you enter the EU on one passport and return to UK on the other? You generally only give airline 1 passport number does this not make any difference?
My wife can’t get EU passport without 3 years residence but she has read that EU regulations generally allow for family members of EU citizens to use the same EU/EEA/Swiss passport control lane at, provided you are traveling together. Anybody have experience of this? Particularly Geneva we fly there a couple of times this year which I know isn’t EU but last time we were their the non EU queue was huge…!
Traitors!
Do you enter the EU on one passport and return to UK on the other? You generally only give airline 1 passport number does this not make any difference?
Yes, basically. You're right that you only give the airline one passport, but airline registration and Border Force queues are 2 different things, so you can have your IE passport on your flight but show your UK passport when returning through Heathrow, for example.
But if you're going to the US/ Canada/ other places, make sure you enter and exit on the same passport (and that you have your ESTA/ ETA for that passport) otherwise you can get seriously screwed.
EU regulations generally allow for family members of EU citizens to use the same EU/EEA/Swiss passport control lane at, provided you are traveling together. Anybody have experience of this?
I would say it may be the legislation, but it really depends on who's working the airport that day. If you have a small child in your family group that definitely helps; if it's just two adults you may well get told to split up to your respective queues.
And as for the Swiss, just remember: the Swiss like being arseholes to the rest of the world just because they're Swiss. Last time I went through Geneva they very obviously turned off the biometric/ automatic games for exiting passport control as we approached, and had travellers divided into Swiss passports and everyone else - and the queue was immense. They did not give a ****
Do you enter the EU on one passport and return to UK on the other?
There’s little point in keeping the british passport once you have the Irish one, unless you like having a spare. I had to have a british one for work (and that was all i used it for) but didn’t renew it decades ago.
