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It’s not the pheasants

It’s the pheasant pluckers son and he’s only plucking pheasants til the pheasant pluckers comes.


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 4:04 pm
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I’m not sure Lis Truss is capable of such machinations.

The sole survivor in government of Cameron's cabinet? There could be more than meets the eye. There has to be...


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 4:05 pm
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No need to apologise TJ, we needed the laugh.


 
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That did make me look foolish

That's not really the issue though - getting something factually wrong undermines your argument, which is why I always try to double check everything, even things which I am sure about.

Filled with youthful enthusiasm it is clear that you rarely have time to double check anything TJ!

A lesson which I was taught very early in my career has stayed with me all my life - measure twice cut once.


 
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A lesson which I was taught very early in my career has stayed with me all my life – measure twice cut once.

Are you a taxidermist?


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 4:25 pm
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A bespoke tailor.


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 4:27 pm
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A serial killer?


 
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"A lesson which I was taught very early in my career has stayed with me all my life – measure twice cut once."

Measured in imperial, cut in metric.


 
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Cut once - measure twice.

Then start swearing.


 
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TBH they probably should vet the anecdotes.

Oddly I have a few.

One time I was on Bath Spa station and I was rather intrigued by a copper picking up a springer and letting it sniff all the hanging baskets as I'd never really seen a dog being picked up like it was/used like this.

Then I remembered she was popping in later on her train.


 
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One time I was on Bath Spa station and I was rather intrigued by a copper picking up a springer and letting it sniff all the hanging baskets as I’d never really seen a dog being picked up like it was/used like this.

sometimes if I spill foodstuff on the worksurface I pick my dog up and let her clean it up. She loves it.

wife not so keen, so we try not to let her catch us.


 
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A lesson which I was taught very early in my career has stayed with me all my life – measure twice cut once.

Jigsaw maker (jigsawerista)? Once met the Queen…


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 4:39 pm
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They hang the flower baskets a bit higher than a worksurface thou, it was probably a good workout 🙂


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 4:43 pm
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10+ days of this mawkish drivel is taking the utter piss

Get used to it: this is nothing compared to what we'll have when Macca goes.


 
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One time I was on Bath Spa station and I was rather intrigued by a copper picking up a springer and letting it sniff all the hanging baskets as I’d never really seen a dog being picked up like it was/used like this.

I started by wondering how much damage a bomb planted in a hanging basket could do and ended with a picture in my mind of a very small bomb blowing up the planter and covering a delighted looking Her Maj in a blizzard of petunia petals...


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 4:59 pm
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You need to have someone who represents the sovereign authority of the nation, which isn’t the same as the government.

Why?

That could be to the people


 
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a bomb planted in a hanging basket

Planted and regularly watered?


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 5:03 pm
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Watching all the clips from the Queens life it's fascinating how her accent has changed over the years, her piercing accent from her early speeches sounds almost excruciating and can actually be damaging to your ears if you've inadvertantly left the volume too high.

Had she carried on any longer she could well have ended up sounding like a yoot.

One's fam', true dat cuz' etc...


 
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You need to have someone who represents the sovereign authority of the nation, which isn’t the same as the government.

And lest we not forget, "sovrinty" was seemingly vitally important to a lot of people just a few years ago.


 
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How about Craig Charles then? All he has to do is change his first name to 'King'. Job jobbed.


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 5:12 pm
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a bomb planted in a hanging basket

Planted and regularly watered?

I chose my words carefully. ;D


 
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Why?

That could be to the people

Well I could lead you on a long & tedious debate about what sovereignty is & how it comes about & if it were 'the people' how could they legitimately possess sovereignty if they didn't have it before. Or I could point out again that every single state in the world (except Switzerland) has a Head of State & presumuably this is not done just as a whim.


 
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Or I could point out again that every single state in the world (except Switzerland) has a Head of State & presumuably this is not done just as a whim.

Give us the TL:DR - I'm finishing work in 10.


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 5:20 pm
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https://twitter.com/PatC804/status/1568258087563173889


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 5:24 pm
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That could be to the people

It is in Scotland. The people are sovereign.


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 5:24 pm
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To be clear, is this the bloke that everyone's talking about?

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/13/prince-charles-black-spider-memos-lobbying-ministers-tony-blair


 
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Yes. People with / in power will often use it to lobby politicians and governments.

In fairness - that article's 7 years old and he wasn't King then. In his own words

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/08/prince-charles-me-meddle-as-a-king-im-not-that-stupid

Time will tell of course.


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 5:32 pm
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Or I could point out again that every single state in the world (except Switzerland) has a Head of State & presumuably this is not done just as a whim.

It's the wrong question if you ask me. The real question we should be asking is why do we need a state at all? Humans are perfectly capable of organising themselves without an all powerful bureaucratic entity to bully and coerce them into doing things they may or may not want to do.


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 5:33 pm
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Which side of the road should we drive on?

Obviously we don't need to organise things around the state level, but we do need to organise. Chaos is great till it isn't. Whatever level we organise at, sometimes it's useful to have someone to represent us. Sometimes that can be purely ceremonial, other times it is to organise with others at an even wider level. Fully distributed organising bodies don't necessarily scale well, and there's an awful lot of us on this planet.


 
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One time I was on Bath Spa station and I was rather intrigued by a copper picking up a springer and letting it sniff all the hanging baskets as I’d never really seen a dog being picked up like it was/used like this.

Presumably now they'd use a King Charles Spaniel


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 5:36 pm
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but we do need to organise.

Presume you didn't see the sentence about 'humans organising themselves'?


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 5:39 pm
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Apologies if this is a bit too on topic given the direction of the thread....

The images from Buck Palace earlier of Chaz and Cam doing some glad handing.....I know he's been waiting for this day pretty much all his life but, wasn't he a bit too bit smiley/upbeat? Queen is dead, long live the King and all that, but his smiles didn't kind of fit with the morning after general mood.


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 5:40 pm
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Theresa May really is the most boring person on the planet isn't she? First it was running through fields of wheat, now it's dropping cheese on the ground and putting it back on the table. She really knows how to party!


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 5:41 pm
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but his smiles didn’t kind of fit with the morning after general mood.

Maybe he was laughing at the person who shouted 'Guillotine!' at them?


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 5:44 pm
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I am going to wear all black for 3 days at my office full of Republicans.


 
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Humans are perfectly capable of organising themselves without an all powerful bureaucratic entity to bully and coerce them into doing things they may or may not want to do.

This strikes as extremely naïve.

However, on a lighter note, it reminds me of a sticker I once saw on a lamppost, proclaiming the Federation of Anarchists, which I thought was quite oxymoronically amusing.


 
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'And of course during her reign she did a lot for women because she was a woman'


 
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Federation of Anarchists, which I thought was quite oxymoronically amusing.

That's probably because you don't understand what anarchy means, as opposed to what you are told it means.


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 5:52 pm
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Here we go again...


 
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The real question we should be asking is why do we need a state at all? Humans are perfectly capable of organising themselves without an all powerful bureaucratic entity to bully and coerce them into doing things they may or may not want to do.

This isn't the thread for it but lolz.

If you have the stomach for reading American non-fiction style writing, check out The Origins of Political Order by Francis Fukuyama.


 
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I'm in central London at the moment having travelled up on public transport, I have to say that I'm a little disappointed by the number of people dressed in black. Luckily I am almost always dressed in black so it required very little effort on my part.


 
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Disappointed because there aren’t many or too many?


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 6:00 pm
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proclaiming the Federation of Anarchists, which I thought was quite oxymoronically amusing.

Why? Federalism is one of the central themes of anarchist organisation.

And why naive? Is your view of human capability so negative and cynical that you think nothing can be done unless we're forced to do it? Do you have to be forced to do things? Do you have to be forced not to do things? Have you no self-control?


 
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I’m in central London at the moment having travelled up on public transport, I have to say that I’m a little disappointed by the number of people dressed in black.

Northern Line up to Camden Town.


 
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Is your view of human capability so negative and cynical that you think nothing can be done unless we’re forced to do it?

Forcing me to drive on the left... oppressed I am!

10 out of 10 for the thread diversion though.


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 6:09 pm
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Which side of the road should we drive on?

Shared foot/cycle paths are a good example of a form of anarchy.
There are no laws or binding regulations.
Just a convention and a consensus that most people follow (to ride on the left and generally be nice).


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 6:11 pm
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Todays Camden Goth Convention wasn't cancelled then?


 
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Disappointed because there aren’t many or too many?

Well I thought the nation was supposed to be in mourning, I don't see much evidence of that. I was handed a special edition Evening Standard dedicated to Her Majesty though. And London Bridge train station has some lovely pictures of Her Majesty displayed on screens. Brought a lump to my throat.


 
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Well I thought the nation was supposed to be in mourning, I don’t see much evidence of that.

That’s because what the media say and what’s actually happening are two different things. The vast majority are too busy working and worrying about increased living costs to mourn.


 
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Forcing me to drive on the left… oppressed I am!

Kelvin I'm 100% confident you wouldn't have to be forced to do anything and you'd be a model citizen in an anarchist society. If there's anyone on this forum who doesn't need a leader, it's you. 🙂


 
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There will be more people at the weekend. Some of my family are going tomorrow. They were working today, like funky says.

I need to be made to drive on the right left Dazh. I'm easily confused. Especially as I've done more miles in France than England this summer. I don't drive unless I absolutely have to... but that's cancelled out by not flying unless I absolutely have to. More seriously... if I need surgery, I'm not asking around people I know to organise it for me... some things need scale... like the NHS.


 
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Shared foot/cycle paths are a good example of a form of anarchy.
There are no laws or binding regulations.
Just a convention and a consensus that most people follow (to ride on the left and generally be nice).


 
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The vast majority are too busy working and worrying about increased living costs to mourn.

I did see a vast amount of people who had spilt onto the pavement outside a large pub, but I didn't see much evidence of any of them being particularly busy or looking worried. Plenty of drinking and much fun and frivolity seemed to be going on though.


 
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if I need surgery, I’m not asking around people I know to organise it for me… some things need scale… like the NHS.

Curious as to why you think surgeons and healthcare wouldn't exist in an anarchist society? Of all the professions I can think of, the medical profession is one where people do it as a vocation rather than for the financial rewards or because they're forced into it. I reckon you'd be spoilt for choice if you needed a surgeon.

And as for that cycle path video...


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 6:56 pm
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I did see a vast amount of people who had spilt onto the pavement outside a large pub

I'm about to go out and do some mourning myself. It's a very difficult time.


 
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I am going to wear all black for 3 days at my office full of Republicans

A kind of reverse Colin Hunt.

So glad to be going abroad until after the funeral. What fortuitous and excellent timing. Thanks Liz. 😀 Oh; and if anyone knows of a decent MTB hire service in Marseille, I’d be grateful for any advice. Thanks.

(Tried asking on the Bike forum but it seems nobody on here actually looks at that bit. 🤣 )


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 6:57 pm
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An excellent speech from Charles there under very difficult circumstances


 
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Should of cut straight to the weather after King Charles 3rd's speech.


 
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Dutifully listened to the new King. I’m sorry for the loss of his mother, she’ll be missed across the world, and at home, but I don’t want this King… how do we let him know without it being taken as a comment on the record of his predecessor?


 
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An excellent speech from Charles there under very difficult circumstances

I thought so too, if I felt that way about my mum I couldn't have done it without bursting into tears. So, William is formerly Prince of Wales, and best wishes to Harry & Meghan 😀 Looks like King Charles wants to stick around for a bit.


 
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Good speech from the King during this difficult time.


 
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Luckily I am almost always dressed in black so it required very little effort on my part.

Are you an undertaker? Ninja? The Milk Tray man? A barista?


 
Posted : 09/09/2022 7:31 pm
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There is no Prince of Wales. It is a pretend title.
His real name is William Louis. He's a 40-year-old Eton-educated English aristocrat.


 
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Are you an undertaker? Ninja? The Milk Tray man? A barista?

If the latter congratulations on taking silk, though the ongoing withdrawal of labour will be cramping finances somewhat.


 
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https://twitter.com/itvnewspolitics/status/1568224178804867072?s=21


 
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There is no Prince of Wales. It is a pretend title.
His real name is William Louis. He’s a 40-year-old Eton-educated English aristocrat.

My colleague once told me he was not Welsh or had anything to do with Welsh DNA even though his family name is Lewis, because his grandparents adopted the surname while escaping prosecution in Russia and Middle East. They wanted to blend in ... in London. At that time I didn't have a clue Lewis was a Welsh surname and didn't see the funny side of his story. Basically, he was joking that his entire life was a "fraud". My other Scottish colleague then suggested I should be called McChewkw of the lowland.


 
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Are you an undertaker? Ninja? The Milk Tray man? A barista

I'm just a big Father Ted fan.


 
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William is formerly Prince of Wales

No, Charles is formerly Prince of Wales, William is formally Prince of Wales.


 
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His real name is William Louis. He’s a 40-year-old Eton-educated English aristocrat


 
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I’m just a big Father Ted fan.

So you’re often wearing very, very, very… very dark blue?


 
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Should of cut straight to the weather after King Charles 3rd’s speech.

Tyhe Met Office has cancelled the weather for a week.


 
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You see Thatcher has been re-born and walks amongst us ! Be afraid !!!

If the new monarch is like his mother he will curl his lip in disdain of her effect on the rest of us (according to auntie Beeb this morning).

I've just heard that they've picked a man to be the new Queen.

Freddie Mercury is back? Who next? Joe!


 
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The Met Office has cancelled the weather for a week.

Fortunately, the Daily Mail are doing comprehensive weather reports in the meantime...

https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1568099793326538756?t=ok95l-kdN8CyO99Dyfg8lQ&s=19


 
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Fortunately, the Daily Mail are doing comprehensive weather reports in the meantime…

Another secret admirer of Daily Mail? Yes?


 
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Serial killer? I'm going serial killer.


 
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Fortunately, the Daily Mail are doing comprehensive weather reports in the meantime…

Not just the Daily Mail

I had a former colleague show me the cloud that looked like his dog on the day it died. No irony. Deadly serious. This man was a senior leader at a huge company


 
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I’m just a big Father Ted fan.

Not just far away?


 
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Perhaps it's not just the daily mail straying into fantasy...

https://twitter.com/BBCAfrica/status/1567950901330976769

for the sake of balance and contrast:

https://twitter.com/8sixty4/status/1567955351747674121

looking at the numbers, have to wonder how much longer the facade will hold!


 
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Couldn't read the first 35 pages of the Times (plus the supplement) so had to go to the local, busier than it has been for weeks, people seemed to be very successfully hiding their woes with lots of jollity.
I stood next to the king-in-waiting once in Oakham, he's miniscule, king of the munchkins, I'm interested to see how photographers handle that.


 
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people seemed to be very successfully hiding their woes with lots of jollity

Just back from the pub as well. Had to reprimand some Young People for being far too joyous and irreverent. They invited us to a club night that had been arranged only today, to celebrate the life of our Glorious Monarch. Or something. A credit to the nation, they are.

MTB hire in Marseille? Anybody?


 
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